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Re: MTR-2000 continuation

 

What Bob just said. I have a remote site with a Win10 32 box running just for MTR CPS. Zero success in my experience with 64 bit communicating with the chassis.


On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 15:48 Bob KK6RQ via <nuhtrue=[email protected]> wrote:
Almost positive MTR2K is the same Moto CPS generation where the CPS will run in 64 bit (like MTS/MCS/1st gen Astro) but won't talk to the radio; needs to be 32 bit Windows.
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Bob
KK6RQ


Re: Tait Equipment

 

Jeremy,

I worked on a few Tait 800's and got the cable and software from BlueMax49ers.? Fortunately, I did not have to do any re-tuning because I believe that you need extender cards to get to the tuning adjustments.? Is this true?

Joe, K1ike

On 2/28/2025 1:55 PM, Jeremy Hansen via groups.io wrote:
Yes for any T-800 Series II or newer. Outstanding platforms.

Jeremy K1LFK

On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 10:40?AM Michael WA7SKG via groups.io <> <wa7skg@...> wrote:

Is there any interest in Tait commercial equipment? My county
recently upgraded some channels to P25 Conventional and has a pile
of Tait VHF repeaters and associated stuff and would like to find
suitable users before it goes to E-Waste.
Michael WA7SKG


Re: MTR-2000 continuation

 

Almost positive MTR2K is the same Moto CPS generation where the CPS will run in 64 bit (like MTS/MCS/1st gen Astro) but won't talk to the radio; needs to be 32 bit Windows.
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Bob
KK6RQ


Re: Tait Equipment

 

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Yes?
Those would be perfect replacements for our system also?
Bob
Kd6gnb?


On Feb 28, 2025, at 13:55, Chris Boone WB5ITT via groups.io <setxtelecom@...> wrote:

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I could use another..had one 800 I pulled from service years ago.. sold it later because I needed the cash....


Great boxes


Chris WB5ITT?


On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 3:22 PM Bill Davis AE via <kg5ie=[email protected]> wrote:
New Ham club here in Dent, Tx would be interested.?

Bill
kg5ie


Re: Tait Equipment

 

I could use another..had one 800 I pulled from service years ago.. sold it later because I needed the cash....


Great boxes


Chris WB5ITT?


On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 3:22 PM Bill Davis AE via <kg5ie=[email protected]> wrote:
New Ham club here in Dent, Tx would be interested.?

Bill
kg5ie


Re: Tait Equipment

 

New Ham club here in Dent, Tx would be interested.?

Bill
kg5ie


Re: HT whip antenna

 

Now to take apart the Yaesu antenna to see how they did it!
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John

On 02/28/2025 10:39 AM EST wj9jrg via groups.io <wj9jrg@...> wrote:
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Hey John,
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Read your comparison.?? Good job.?? This is a real comparison.?? And you even came to the same conclusion I did!
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" For me the most impressive result of these tests is how well the Yaesu stock antenna performed in varying circumstances."
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I have found the Yaesu stock antennas also work extremely well.?? As I said before, it's hard to beat the VX-2 antenna, and it works great on the VX-5 as well (which are my go-to ht's)
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Andy

On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 9:48?AM John Huggins via <=[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 21, 2025, 5:21 PM wj9jrg via <wj9jrg=[email protected]> wrote:
A real comparison would involve rotating them in an RF chamber and testing radiation patterns.
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We did some of that...
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John, kx4o

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Re: Tuning/programming a Kenwood NXR 1800 repeater

 

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Ok thanks

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2025 3:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] Tuning/programming a Kenwood NXR 1800 repeater

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Your 1800 is an E2 therefore no need to play with the VCO

Ken



At 01:06 PM 2/28/2025, you wrote:

Don't know exactly, going from GMRS to somewhere in the 70 cm ham band. I don't have the frequency pair assigned yet.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.


On Feb 28, 2025, at 3:00?€?PM, Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io <ken@...> wrote:

??? How far are you moving it?




At 12:58 PM 2/28/2025, you wrote:

I've already programmed the repeater, just curious if I reprogram it to a different frequency if I need to return the VCO. According to my radio shop guy was here today. No, I don't have to return it, it does it by itself.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.


On Feb 28, 2025, at 2:21?€?PM, n5qs via groups.io <ygroup@...> wrote:

??? The only programing cables for the NXR-1x00 repeaters are a cat 5 jumper and a 9 to 25 pin serial cable if you have a 9 pin serial jack on your computer.
If you don't you will need a usb to serial adapter to plug it in to.
Roger


On 2/28/2025 11:43 AM, Chad Nelson wrote:

I have two of them, and they're both 403 to 470 MHz.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.


On Feb 28, 2025, at 11:22?€?AM, steven harvey <sharvey@...> wrote:

???
Are you looking to use this in GMRS service??? If you are, you'll need to purchase the right version of the repeater as Kenwood makes specific versions for specific band ranges.?? I have cut and past right from the Kenwood commercial site, which you can find by doing a google search on Kenwood NXR 1800.??? As far as programming, you'll need the program cable and software to make it work and to setup the repeater.??? If you have never done this before it will be a learning curve as it's just not a few clicks and save it back to the radio.??? Kenwood repeaters, if you select the right band range, do not need to be tuned on a service monitor as the software writes the frequency back to the repeater and adjust the receiver and transmitter to the right frequency.??? However,? I always like to check it on the monitor just to make sure everything is setup right as far as frequency, deviation and power out settings as a few basic checks.
?
Thanks!
Steven H.
N8RLW
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Frequency Range
?€€Type 1
?€€Type 2
1 450-520 MHz
2 400-470 MHz


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Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
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President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
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Re: Antenna for UHF made in Ukraine

 

We took apart what I recall was a Comprod exposed side mount dipole on 47 MHz and converted it to 6 meters. It was taken out of service because the RG213 coax badly deteriorated after only 10 yrs. It was a base station, not repeater antenna.
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It had an interesting design. While it was a true folded dipole with both upper and lower loops balance fed at the outside tubing from the tower side, the antenna itself was only maybe 1/8 wave out from the tower leg, meaning that the feedpoint resistance was way below 300 ohms. The manufacturer used RG213 fed inside the upper loop that transitioned to RG63 (.405" OD 125 ohm coax just like the Ukranian) inside the loop aluminum tubing.. If the antenna had been 1/4 wave or more out from the nearest tower leg, the feedpoint resistance might have been say 200 ohms, so a full 1/4 wavelength of RG63 matching section would result in a RG213 feedline resistance of 50 ohms.? What was done was to make the 1/4 wavelength of RG63, under an electrical 1/4 wavelength to the feedpoint opening in the loops where the shield was grounded to the end of the upper loop tubing (as in the Ukrainian antenna), and then instead of the center conductor of the RG63 directly connecting to the end opening of the lower loop tubing, about 7 inches of open RG63 with it's shield connected to the lower tubing end, with the RG63 open section extending further down inside the lower loop tubing, and just center conductor, no coax shield across the feed point air gap, thus apparently capacitively loading the matching stub to make it a 1/4 wavelength electrically, but apparently impedance? tapping down between the transition to RG213 end and the open end of RG63 inside the lower loop load.?
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The result was a narrower SWR bandwidth (say 3 /MHz instead of 5 MHz with the competing Sinclair side mount exposed folded dipole out 1/4 wavelength from the tower). Also more RF current in the tower, so less back side pattern loss? than with the Sinclair. With the Comprod, the feed point termination measures an open instead of short from center conductor to shield.?
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Possibly the Ukranian exposed dipole may also start with RG213 pigtail and transition inside the element tubing to a 1/4 wavelength RG63 matching section like would be with the Sinclair antenna.
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John
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On 02/28/2025 10:03 AM EST Bob Dengler <no6b@...> wrote:?

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At 2/27/2025 03:23 PM, you wrote:
A 220 4 bay got dropped off last week. Russian RG-213, microscopic center conductor, I'd say 20ga if that, bare copper braid,

Too bad that the Ukrainian dipole arrays are no good for repeater use :(

If they would sell the dipoles alone maybe someone else could make proper phasing harnesses for them using RG-214.

Bob NO6B


Re: Tuning/programming a Kenwood NXR 1800 repeater

 

Your 1800 is an E2 therefore no need to play with the VCO

Ken



At 01:06 PM 2/28/2025, you wrote:

Don't know exactly, going from GMRS to somewhere in the 70 cm ham band. I don't have the frequency pair assigned yet.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On Feb 28, 2025, at 3:00?€?PM, Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io <ken@...> wrote:

??? How far are you moving it?




At 12:58 PM 2/28/2025, you wrote:
I've already programmed the repeater, just curious if I reprogram it to a different frequency if I need to return the VCO. According to my radio shop guy was here today. No, I don't have to return it, it does it by itself.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On Feb 28, 2025, at 2:21?€?PM, n5qs via groups.io <ygroup@...> wrote:

??? The only programing cables for the NXR-1x00 repeaters are a cat 5 jumper and a 9 to 25 pin serial cable if you have a 9 pin serial jack on your computer.
If you don't you will need a usb to serial adapter to plug it in to.
Roger


On 2/28/2025 11:43 AM, Chad Nelson wrote:
I have two of them, and they're both 403 to 470 MHz.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On Feb 28, 2025, at 11:22?€?AM, steven harvey <sharvey@...> wrote:

???
Are you looking to use this in GMRS service??? If you are, you'll need to purchase the right version of the repeater as Kenwood makes specific versions for specific band ranges.?? I have cut and past right from the Kenwood commercial site, which you can find by doing a google search on Kenwood NXR 1800.??? As far as programming, you'll need the program cable and software to make it work and to setup the repeater.??? If you have never done this before it will be a learning curve as it's just not a few clicks and save it back to the radio.??? Kenwood repeaters, if you select the right band range, do not need to be tuned on a service monitor as the software writes the frequency back to the repeater and adjust the receiver and transmitter to the right frequency.??? However,? I always like to check it on the monitor just to make sure everything is setup right as far as frequency, deviation and power out settings as a few basic checks.
?
Thanks!
Steven H.
N8RLW
?
Frequency Range
?€€Type 1
?€€Type 2
1 450-520 MHz
2 400-470 MHz

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182

Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]


Re: Tuning/programming a Kenwood NXR 1800 repeater

 

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Don't know exactly, going from GMRS to somewhere in the 70 cm ham band. I don't have the frequency pair assigned yet.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On Feb 28, 2025, at 3:00?PM, Ken Arck AH6LE via groups.io <ken@...> wrote:

? How far are you moving it?




At 12:58 PM 2/28/2025, you wrote:
I've already programmed the repeater, just curious if I reprogram it to a different frequency if I need to return the VCO. According to my radio shop guy was here today. No, I don't have to return it, it does it by itself.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On Feb 28, 2025, at 2:21?PM, n5qs via groups.io <ygroup@...> wrote:

? The only programing cables for the NXR-1x00 repeaters are a cat 5 jumper and a 9 to 25 pin serial cable if you have a 9 pin serial jack on your computer.
If you don't you will need a usb to serial adapter to plug it in to.
Roger


On 2/28/2025 11:43 AM, Chad Nelson wrote:
I have two of them, and they're both 403 to 470 MHz.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On Feb 28, 2025, at 11:22?AM, steven harvey <sharvey@...> wrote:

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Are you looking to use this in GMRS service??? If you are, you'll need to purchase the right version of the repeater as Kenwood makes specific versions for specific band ranges.?? I have cut and past right from the Kenwood commercial site, which you can find by doing a google search on Kenwood NXR 1800.??? As far as programming, you'll need the program cable and software to make it work and to setup the repeater.??? If you have never done this before it will be a learning curve as it's just not a few clicks and save it back to the radio.??? Kenwood repeaters, if you select the right band range, do not need to be tuned on a service monitor as the software writes the frequency back to the repeater and adjust the receiver and transmitter to the right frequency.??? However,? I always like to check it on the monitor just to make sure everything is setup right as far as frequency, deviation and power out settings as a few basic checks.
?
Thanks!
Steven H.
N8RLW
?
Frequency Range
¡¡Type 1
¡¡Type 2
1 450-520 MHz
2 400-470 MHz

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]


Re: Tuning/programming a Kenwood NXR 1800 repeater

 

How far are you moving it?




At 12:58 PM 2/28/2025, you wrote:

I've already programmed the repeater, just curious if I reprogram it to a different frequency if I need to return the VCO. According to my radio shop guy was here today. No, I don't have to return it, it does it by itself.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On Feb 28, 2025, at 2:21?€?PM, n5qs via groups.io <ygroup@...> wrote:

??? The only programing cables for the NXR-1x00 repeaters are a cat 5 jumper and a 9 to 25 pin serial cable if you have a 9 pin serial jack on your computer.
If you don't you will need a usb to serial adapter to plug it in to.
Roger


On 2/28/2025 11:43 AM, Chad Nelson wrote:
I have two of them, and they're both 403 to 470 MHz.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On Feb 28, 2025, at 11:22?€?AM, steven harvey <sharvey@...> wrote:

???
Are you looking to use this in GMRS service??? If you are, you'll need to purchase the right version of the repeater as Kenwood makes specific versions for specific band ranges.?? I have cut and past right from the Kenwood commercial site, which you can find by doing a google search on Kenwood NXR 1800.??? As far as programming, you'll need the program cable and software to make it work and to setup the repeater.??? If you have never done this before it will be a learning curve as it's just not a few clicks and save it back to the radio.??? Kenwood repeaters, if you select the right band range, do not need to be tuned on a service monitor as the software writes the frequency back to the repeater and adjust the receiver and transmitter to the right frequency.??? However,? I always like to check it on the monitor just to make sure everything is setup right as far as frequency, deviation and power out settings as a few basic checks.
?
Thanks!
Steven H.
N8RLW
?
Frequency Range
?€€Type 1
?€€Type 2
1 450-520 MHz
2 400-470 MHz

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]


Re: Tuning/programming a Kenwood NXR 1800 repeater

 

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I've already programmed the repeater, just curious if I reprogram it to a different frequency if I need to return the VCO. According to my radio shop guy was here today. No, I don't have to return it, it does it by itself.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On Feb 28, 2025, at 2:21?PM, n5qs via groups.io <ygroup@...> wrote:

? The only programing cables for the NXR-1x00 repeaters are a cat 5 jumper and a 9 to 25 pin serial cable if you have a 9 pin serial jack on your computer.
If you don't you will need a usb to serial adapter to plug it in to.
Roger


On 2/28/2025 11:43 AM, Chad Nelson wrote:
I have two of them, and they're both 403 to 470 MHz.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On Feb 28, 2025, at 11:22?AM, steven harvey <sharvey@...> wrote:

?
Are you looking to use this in GMRS service? ? If you are, you'll need to purchase the right version of the repeater as Kenwood makes specific versions for specific band ranges. ? I have cut and past right from the Kenwood commercial site, which you can find by doing a google search on Kenwood NXR 1800.? ? As far as programming, you'll need the program cable and software to make it work and to setup the repeater.??? If you have never done this before it will be a learning curve as it's just not a few clicks and save it back to the radio.??? Kenwood repeaters, if you select the right band range, do not need to be tuned on a service monitor as the software writes the frequency back to the repeater and adjust the receiver and transmitter to the right frequency.??? However,? I always like to check it on the monitor just to make sure everything is setup right as far as frequency, deviation and power out settings as a few basic checks.
?
Thanks!
Steven H.
N8RLW
?
Frequency Range
¡¡Type 1
¡¡Type 2

1 450-520 MHz
2 400-470 MHz


Re: Tuning/programming a Kenwood NXR 1800 repeater

 

Incorrect. The NXR-1000 series is programmed via ethernet

Ken



At 12:20 PM 2/28/2025, you wrote:

The only programing cables for the NXR-1x00 repeaters are a cat 5 jumper and a 9 to 25 pin serial cable if you have a 9 pin serial jack on your computer.
If you don't you will need a usb to serial adapter to plug it in to.
Roger


On 2/28/2025 11:43 AM, Chad Nelson wrote:
I have two of them, and they're both 403 to 470 MHz.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On Feb 28, 2025, at 11:22?€?AM, steven harvey <sharvey@...> wrote:

???
Are you looking to use this in GMRS service? ?? If you are, you'll need to purchase the right version of the repeater as Kenwood makes specific versions for specific band ranges. ?? I have cut and past right from the Kenwood commercial site, which you can find by doing a google search on Kenwood NXR 1800.?? ?? As far as programming, you'll need the program cable and software to make it work and to setup the repeater.? ? ?? If you have never done this before it will be a learning curve as it's just not a few clicks and save it back to the radio.? ? ?? Kenwood repeaters, if you select the right band range, do not need to be tuned on a service monitor as the software writes the frequency back to the repeater and adjust the receiver and transmitter to the right frequency.? ? ?? However,?? I always like to check it on the monitor just to make sure everything is setup right as far as frequency, deviation and power out settings as a few basic checks.
?
Thanks!
Steven H.
N8RLW
?
Frequency Range
?€€Type 1
?€€Type 2
1 450-520 MHz
2 400-470 MHz

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
[]


Re: Tuning/programming a Kenwood NXR 1800 repeater

 

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The only programing cables for the NXR-1x00 repeaters are a cat 5 jumper and a 9 to 25 pin serial cable if you have a 9 pin serial jack on your computer.
If you don't you will need a usb to serial adapter to plug it in to.
Roger


On 2/28/2025 11:43 AM, Chad Nelson wrote:

I have two of them, and they're both 403 to 470 MHz.
Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979
Janesville Wisconsin
608-754-8671
Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

On Feb 28, 2025, at 11:22?AM, steven harvey <sharvey@...> wrote:

?
Are you looking to use this in GMRS service? ? If you are, you'll need to purchase the right version of the repeater as Kenwood makes specific versions for specific band ranges. ? I have cut and past right from the Kenwood commercial site, which you can find by doing a google search on Kenwood NXR 1800.? ? As far as programming, you'll need the program cable and software to make it work and to setup the repeater.??? If you have never done this before it will be a learning curve as it's just not a few clicks and save it back to the radio.??? Kenwood repeaters, if you select the right band range, do not need to be tuned on a service monitor as the software writes the frequency back to the repeater and adjust the receiver and transmitter to the right frequency.??? However,? I always like to check it on the monitor just to make sure everything is setup right as far as frequency, deviation and power out settings as a few basic checks.
?
Thanks!
Steven H.
N8RLW
?
Frequency Range
¡¡Type 1
¡¡Type 2

1 450-520 MHz
2 400-470 MHz


Re: HT whip antenna

 

It's not so bad to do RF field measurements outdoors.
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The EMI test site at Bell Labs in Holmdel NJ was essentially an outdoor site ground plane in an open field (with a fiberglass structure over it) and then a vault below ground for the test equipment and personnel.? The Holmdel location was supposedly selected (in the 1920s) because it was in a bit of radio hole relative to street car electrical noise from NYC, or so the legend went.
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We also had RF anechoic chambers for pre-testing, but the data for the FCC filing was collected from the outdoor open field site.
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FYI, I recently tested my SDRplay RSP1A SDR receiver connected to my HP8647A sig gen and found that the SDRPlay signal strength indicator (reading in dBm) was within 2dB what the HP said it was producing, from -30 dBm to -110 dBm.? I only tested it at 146 MHz, but I should retest it at 30, 50, 446 and 915 and see if matches there was well.
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The SDRplay connected to a reasonable sense antenna might make for a convenient way to A-B two test antennas.? It wouldn't produce an absolute measurement, but it should show if antenna A is better than antenna B, and by how many dB.
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KX4O's write up on antenna comparisons is excellent!
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Paul, ad7i
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Re: HT whip antenna

 

Thanks John for the page and actually acknowledging return lost is a factor. I found most "hams" don't know or care about that scale for measurement especially, on "eham".
Curious, what is your construction type of the RF chamber? I do it the cheap (and not so accurate) way with use free air (outside the shop).
--
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Regards, Karl Shoemaker
To contact me, please visit SRG's web site at?
for the current email address.


Re: commercial UHF repeater recommendation

 

derp-reply, not replay...ugh...

On 2/28/2025 1:55 PM, Jim Barbour via groups.io wrote:
Read my replay again.
On 2/28/2025 11:14 AM, Gregg via groups.io wrote:
Is that 462 on the Rx radio and are both the Rx & Tx parameters set to this or is it talk around or??? So many unanswered questions.

Gregg Wardlow
Leesburg, Ohio
H: 561-WARDLOW
N4RGW?? WQLY786

¡°Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.¡±
¨D C. S. Lewis

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim Barbour via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2025 10:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] commercial UHF repeater recommendation

For a GMRS repeater, transmit would be the 462 freq, and receive would be the 467 freq.


On 2/28/2025 9:52 AM, Gregg via groups.io wrote:
How about programming the radios? What are the parameters in the CPS?

? 1. Does the _Rx radio_ have both Tx & Rx programmed on the Rx frequency
???? of 462.7250, and the _Tx radio_ have both Tx & Rx programmed on the
???? Tx frequency of 467.7250?
? 2. Are there additional radio parameters needing set in the CPS to
???? enable the radios to work in tandem as a repeater? I¡¯ll be using the
???? GMRS travel pl of 141.3 in & out.
? 3. How about the pin setup in the radios for the interface cards? Are
???? any modifications needed for compatibility here or just plug & play?
???? I understand there is a right and wrong as far as plugging them in
???? right side up or down. Is there a good way to determine what is
???? ¡®right side up¡¯?
? 4. Are there settings mods for audio when using these in tandem as a
???? repeater.
? 5. Anything??











Re: Tuning/programming a Kenwood NXR 1800 repeater

 

Except that the TKR-720/820 and 750/850 need the front end helicals tuned if you're moving it more than a few hundred KHz.

On 2/28/2025 12:22 PM, steven harvey via groups.io wrote:
Are you looking to use this in GMRS service? ? If you are, you'll need to purchase the right version of the repeater as Kenwood makes specific versions for specific band ranges. ? I have cut and past right from the Kenwood commercial site, which you can find by doing a google search on Kenwood NXR 1800.? ? As far as programming, you'll need the program cable and software to make it work and to setup the repeater.??? If you have never done this before it will be a learning curve as it's just not a few clicks and save it back to the radio.??? Kenwood repeaters, if you select the right band range, do not need to be tuned on a service monitor as the software writes the frequency back to the repeater and adjust the receiver and transmitter to the right frequency.??? However, I always like to check it on the monitor just to make sure everything is setup right as far as frequency, deviation and power out settings as a few basic checks.
Thanks!
Steven H.
N8RLW
Frequency Range
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2 400-470 MHz


Re: commercial UHF repeater recommendation

 

Read my replay again.

On 2/28/2025 11:14 AM, Gregg via groups.io wrote:
Is that 462 on the Rx radio and are both the Rx & Tx parameters set to this or is it talk around or??? So many unanswered questions.
Gregg Wardlow
Leesburg, Ohio
H: 561-WARDLOW
N4RGW WQLY786
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¨D C. S. Lewis
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim Barbour via groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2025 10:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] commercial UHF repeater recommendation
For a GMRS repeater, transmit would be the 462 freq, and receive would be the 467 freq.
On 2/28/2025 9:52 AM, Gregg via groups.io wrote:
How about programming the radios? What are the parameters in the CPS?

1. Does the _Rx radio_ have both Tx & Rx programmed on the Rx frequency
of 462.7250, and the _Tx radio_ have both Tx & Rx programmed on the
Tx frequency of 467.7250?
2. Are there additional radio parameters needing set in the CPS to
enable the radios to work in tandem as a repeater? I¡¯ll be using the
GMRS travel pl of 141.3 in & out.
3. How about the pin setup in the radios for the interface cards? Are
any modifications needed for compatibility here or just plug & play?
I understand there is a right and wrong as far as plugging them in
right side up or down. Is there a good way to determine what is
¡®right side up¡¯?
4. Are there settings mods for audio when using these in tandem as a
repeater.
5. Anything??