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Re: GE phen.programable radios/info
D.J.H.
I'am getting alot of email with out any message body,only the subject
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Re: Advice
Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
Jeff, My thoughts are threaded below:
JHowel@... wrote: From: JHowel@...Are the Mastr Pro's mobiles? If so the receivers are very good, but it's hard to get the HV whine out of the transmitters audio. If they are stations running off of a station supply, there is no problem. As it stands right now, my options are leaning toward using two Mocom 70'sThe two M'70's should work fine. Micor's are really cheap right now since the trend (even in ham radio) is turning toward using Mitrek's and Syntors (yes you can make a repeater from a Syntor.) I suggest a Micro Computer Concepts RC-100 (or RC-1000 if patch is necessary) they are cheap and work fine. If you are into soldering things together to save money, try the NHRC 4, I have one of these and it is great for the $75 I have in it. A cheap repeater antenna is the Hustler G7-144 for 2M. Don't use a Cushcraft antenna on your repeater like the ringo, or ranger. They have no decoupling of the feedline and their pattern is horrible. The rf spewing from it will cause you (and others) grief. I like the WACOM duplexers. I have several sets for 2M and UHF and they really work nicely. Kevin |
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Re: GE phen.programable radios/info
Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
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<html> <p>"D.J.H." wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>From: "D.J.H." <ve6zh@...> <p>Hello.I'am new to this list.My call is VE6ZH,name is Doug,have been <br>building repeaters for about 12 years.Have 3 on the air ge royal <br>ex.147.210+ ge royal ex.146.700- and a motorola micor from mobile service <br>on 448.975- <br> Dose anyone have info on how to program a UHF GE. Phoenix to use as a <br>link radio??? <br> 73 Doug <br> </blockquote> Doug, <p>Sorry I can't help with the programming of the GE. <p>I have a question though, what information did you use to convert the uhf Micor to repeater? <p>Kevin <br> <br> </html> |
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Re: 222MHZ Micor repeater
Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
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<html> <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Fred, <br>Which model 4 pin exciter do you have? <br>Kevin >> <p>The exciter is a TLD5322B and the channel element is a KXN1018C.... by the way <br>i can only get 2kc deviation out of the exciter, does anybody know which <br>capacitor i have to change in the element? <p>Thanks <p>Fred <br> </blockquote> Well, I have no experience with that exciter. I use the TLD 8732A <p>As far as the deviation goes, you should not have to change anything in the element because of deviation. If you are able to net the crystal on frequency, you should be able to get MORE deviation from the exciter now that it is on 220. Why? The crystal oscillator has been multiplied more times (18 instead of 12.) 417 cycles of deviation at the oscillator is necessary to make 5 kc. deviation at the output on high band (2 meters) the same oscillator deviation (417 cycles) should net 7.5 kc. deviation on 222 mc. You should have more than enough deviation on 222. <p>Sounds to me like there is a problem with the buffer amp (Q404) or first tripler (Q405.) <p>Do you have the schematic, and trouble shooting procedure? It should still apply. <br>Does each stage tune at a precise peak? How about the tuning slugs, are they all the way into the sleeve or way out? <p>Did you put any caps on the channel element to net it on frequency? If you did you may have taken away the ability to deviate the oscillator. <p>If you cannot get this transmitter to work, I can send you a TLD 5382A style exciter and channel element. <p>Kevin <br> <br> </html> |
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GE phen.programable radios/info
D.J.H.
Hello.I'am new to this list.My call is VE6ZH,name is Doug,have been
building repeaters for about 12 years.Have 3 on the air ge royal ex.147.210+ ge royal ex.146.700- and a motorola micor from mobile service on 448.975- Dose anyone have info on how to program a UHF GE. Phoenix to use as a link radio??? 73 Doug ---------- |
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Re: 222MHZ Micor repeater
Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
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<html> <p>NE2E@... wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>From: NE2E@... <p>Hello All.. <br>Did anybody ever modify a vhf 160mhz micor base station for 220mhz??? the <br>exciter is a true fm and not phase modulation.. <br>I just did one and i used the mods for a mobile and i only get around 50MW <br>out of the exciter on a bird meter, before the mod i was getting 600MW.. <br>The mobile exciter i believe its a little different, has some different <br>components in the rf section not just in the phase modulation circuit.. <br>Any body has mods for the vhf base/repeater exciter???? <p>Thanks <p>Fred</blockquote> Fred, <p>Which model 4 pin exciter do you have? <p>Kevin</html> |
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Re: [Fwd: Micor Repeater]
Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP
i want to piggy back a link radio on RB port
i am using a UHF Ge Century II on my remoter base and what it is is that i want another radio back to back with it but with a aux. port to switch the cos or the audio any ideas using the RC-1000V controller Brent DeSalvo (KF4TNP) 146.625- 442.100+ Lewisburg, Tennessee Do not forget to Confirm your visit! Thanx. |
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Re: Micor Backplane
Richard D. Reese
"Kevin K. Custer W3KKC" wrote:
From: "Kevin K. Custer W3KKC"The two non-unified chassis I am familiar with are the TCN1107A & TCN1125A. The 1107 is 1 or 2 frequency and the 1125 is 4 frequency. Let me know which one you have and I can san the interconnect chart and post it to my site for you later tonight or Tuesday. -- Richard D. Reese WA8DBW 224.320, 444.200, 920.000, 2411.200 MHz Voice 330-335-0122 |
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Re: Advice
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Kevin, Thanks for all the info. The Mastr Pro's are mobiles. I really don't see me using those for the repeater. As I said, I think my best bet as things stand right now is to use the Mocom's. As for a controller, I'm looking at the NHRC mainly due to price, at least to start. Not sure If I'll tackle the kit form or the assembled/tested (most likely the latter) but I'm almost certain I'll go with one of these. Thanks for the antenna suggestions. I'm going to try to go with seperate antennas to avoid the $$$ of duplexers, but this will depend a lot on the antenna structure. For example, if I have to go with a water tower, I'll need to use a single antenna. But if I have vertical tower space, I'll be able to go with two antennas. One question though: what are your thoughts on the number of cavities in the duplexer? For example, a 6-cavity vs. a 3-cavity? I know the 6 will cost more and provide more isolation, but at what point would I need to decide which one? Again, thanks! 73, Jeff, W9SAR |
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Re: Micor Backplane
Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
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<html> <p>"Kevin K. Custer W3KKC" wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>From: "Kevin K. Custer W3KKC" <kuggie@...> <p>Tracy, <p>I am replying directly and also reflecting the message on the new list. <br>If anyone wants to reply to Tracy, please send plain text directly to his email <br>address as I am uncertain of his email receiving ability. Also, please CC the list <br>so others can see your reply. <br>..............................snip.................................... <br>If you have trouble cross referencing the modification to the non uni chassis <br>email again and I will take the time to do it.</blockquote> Oh well........I forgot (already) you have no manual. <br>The part number for the manual I have is 68P06901J94 and was written for the PA State Police Base Stations. <p>If someone knows of a more generic number for the manual that coincides with the Micor non unified station please reply.</html> |
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Re: Micor Backplane
Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
Tracy,
I am replying directly and also reflecting the message on the new list. If anyone wants to reply to Tracy, please send plain text directly to his email address as I am uncertain of his email receiving ability. Also, please CC the list so others can see your reply. To bring the rest of you up to date, here is the original mailing from him, and then my reply. Kevin,This next part I just received and I am replying to him and the list. My reply is threaded below. Acsdsupt@... wrote: The model # is scratched out from moving it. It does have a big 50 conductorYou have a "non-unified" chassis. I got the receiver to tune up however, not quite to the sensitivity that I amI have a different solution to this problem. My solution does not compromise the front end selectivity like when using longer tuning screws. Go to and for explanation of this solution. Also the coils are now on sale from me if you choose to purchase them. The exciter tuned up too. Although I had to dive into the schematics for a whileA simple 50 uA meter works fine. Seems to work. But I can't get the crystal tune on frequency. It's high! TheYour exciter must use elements with 4 pins, Correct? The 3 pin model (with K 1007A element) is standard and does not have a modulator in it. This model utilizes phase modulation. The 4 pin model (with KXN 1019 element) was originally designed to transmit DPL (digital private line) and was a true fm exciter. I don't know why the cap across the varactor did not work. Lastly, this thing was configured as a remote base for a business. It has aYea, lots of ideas.... Are you going to use an outboard controller with this station? If so refer to for information. If not, refer to and ignore the rest. On the first conversion, since your station is a NON UNI chassis, some things are going to need to be translated. Read the information and try to understand the CONCEPT, don't try to convert yours using the information. Basically to keep the receiver from muting and to eliminate the need for the line driver card. Pull the line driver card out. Then, on the Remote Control Chassis, (the chassis where the cards go in) jump pin 15 to 39 (where the 50 pin ribbon is attached). This allows the preamp audio from the receiver audio and squelch board to be fed into the volume control to provide amplified receiver audio to drive a local speaker with no muting action. My personal notes also show modification to the Audio & Squelch board. My notes show to cut off the trace leading to IC 202 pin 14. Also cut trace leading from the intersection of IC 202 pin 13 and C235 (a .22 uF) and the long pins leading to the outside world. If anything is allowed to input to pin 13 on the A&S board (except for having the .22 uF cap connected) will totally mess up the action of this board. Bottom line is to eliminate as many of the cards as possible. I do not care for the way the Squelch Gate card manages the squelch action, or anything else it does (I eliminate it because I use external controllers) . This concept is outlined in the Station Modification listed above. If you have trouble cross referencing the modification to the non uni chassis email again and I will take the time to do it. Hope this helps, Kevin |
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Advice
Greetings to the list,
I am just beginning to embark on a 2-meter repeater-building project, and could use some advice. I need to keep out-of-pocket expenses minimal, and use as much of what components I have on hand as possible. I have several Mocom 70's, which I've been told are easy to tune but you have to use two to make a repeater. I've found someone who has a manual, so I'll have that within a week or two. I also have two GE Master Pro's that I've also been told can be made into repeaters without much trouble. As it stands right now, my options are leaning toward using two Mocom 70's with a basic controller. Bells and whistles can come later -- most important thing is to get the thing built and hopefully on the air when the weather warms up enough to do the antenna work -- which is another thing: I need to find a site for the repeater. Any suggestions will be appreciated; thanks in advance. 73, Jeff, W9SAR |
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Repeater UHF
Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP
looking for a Repeater to set up on 461.900tx and 466.900rx with pl of
192.8 enc/dec i have the duplexer and pa all that goo stuff looking for a rx with pre amp and a transmitter anybody have one for sale ? -- Brent DeSalvo (KF4TNP) 146.625- 442.100+ Lewisburg, Tennessee Do not forget to Confirm your visit! Thanx. |
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Re: 222MHZ Micor repeater
In a message dated 2/15/99 9:08:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, kuggie@...
writes: << Did anybody ever modify a vhf 160mhz micor base station for 220mhz???the exciter is a true fm and not phase modulation.. I just did one and i used the mods for a mobile and i only getaround 50MW out of the exciter on a bird meter, before the mod i was getting 600MW.. The mobile exciter i believe its a little different, has some different components in the rf section not just in the phase modulationcircuit.. Any body has mods for the vhf base/repeater exciter???? Thanks Fred</blockquote>Fred, Which model 4 pin exciter do you have? Kevin >> The exciter is a TLD5322B and the channel element is a KXN1018C.... by the way i can only get 2kc deviation out of the exciter, does anybody know which capacitor i have to change in the element? Thanks Fred |
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