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Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

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Re: Another test

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

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Another test

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

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Re: Micor Backplane

Richard D. Reese
 

"Kevin K. Custer W3KKC" wrote:

From: "Kevin K. Custer W3KKC"

"Kevin K. Custer W3KKC" wrote:

From: "Kevin K. Custer W3KKC"
<kuggie@...>

Tracy,

I am replying directly and also reflecting the
message on the new list.
If anyone wants to reply to Tracy, please send
plain text directly to his email
address as I am uncertain of his email
receiving ability. Also, please CC the list
so others can see your reply.
.............................
snip....................................
If you have trouble cross referencing the
modification to the non uni chassis
email again and I will take the time to do it.
Oh well........I forgot (already) you have no
manual.
The part number for the manual I have is
68P06901J94 and was written for the PA State
Police Base Stations.

If someone knows of a more generic number for
the manual that coincides with the Micor non
unified station please reply.
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The two non-unified chassis I am familiar with are
the TCN1107A & TCN1125A. The 1107 is 1 or 2
frequency and the 1125 is 4 frequency. Let me
know which one you have and I can san the
interconnect chart and post it to my site for you
later tonight or Tuesday.

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224.320, 444.200, 920.000, 2411.200 MHz
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Re: Advice

 

<snipped for brevity>

Kevin,

Thanks for all the info. The Mastr Pro's are mobiles. I really don't see me
using those for the repeater. As I said, I think my best bet as things stand
right now is to use the Mocom's.

As for a controller, I'm looking at the NHRC mainly due to price, at least to
start. Not sure If I'll tackle the kit form or the assembled/tested (most
likely the latter) but I'm almost certain I'll go with one of these.

Thanks for the antenna suggestions. I'm going to try to go with seperate
antennas to avoid the $$$ of duplexers, but this will depend a lot on the
antenna structure. For example, if I have to go with a water tower, I'll need
to use a single antenna. But if I have vertical tower space, I'll be able to
go with two antennas. One question though: what are your thoughts on the
number of cavities in the duplexer? For example, a 6-cavity vs. a 3-cavity?
I know the 6 will cost more and provide more isolation, but at what point
would I need to decide which one?

Again, thanks!

73,
Jeff, W9SAR


Re: Micor Backplane

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

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<p>Tracy,
<p>I am replying directly and also reflecting the message on the new list.
<br>If anyone wants to reply to Tracy, please send plain text directly
to his email
<br>address as I am uncertain of his email receiving ability. Also, please
CC the list
<br>so others can see your reply.
<br>..............................snip....................................
<br>If you have trouble cross referencing the modification to the non uni
chassis
<br>email again and I will take the time to do it.</blockquote>
Oh well........I forgot (already) you have no manual.
<br>The part number for the manual I have is 68P06901J94&nbsp; and was
written for the PA State Police Base Stations.
<p>If someone knows of a more generic number for the manual that coincides
with the Micor non unified station please reply.</html>


Re: Micor Backplane

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

Tracy,

I am replying directly and also reflecting the message on the new list.
If anyone wants to reply to Tracy, please send plain text directly to his email
address as I am uncertain of his email receiving ability. Also, please CC the list
so others can see your reply.

To bring the rest of you up to date, here is the original mailing from him, and
then my reply.

Kevin,

I see you have a lot of knowledge on Micor's and wonder if you
could help me?

Do you know of anywhere one might be able to obtain a manual which
explains the 'card controller rack' and backplane logic? Which manual #
this is? I've got a vhf micor mobile manual which appears to take care of the
receiver, exciter and pa questions... But the card rack is still a mystery.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Tracy,
K0DOE

Tracy,

Does the backplane board have a model # on it anywhere?
How about the cabinet? any numbers will help determine this.
Is it a Unified Chassis or does it have a big 50 conductor ribbon
cable connecting the backplane to the rx and tx, (non unified)?

The model # for the Control & Applications manual MAY be
68P81025E60-C

Don't let the card rack and backplane intimidate you. For all
practical purposes (in ham use) it can be bypassed.
What cards are installed into the rack?

Kevin
This next part I just received and I am replying to him and the list.
My reply is threaded below.

Acsdsupt@... wrote:

The model # is scratched out from moving it. It does have a big 50 conductor
ribbon cable (mylar) connecting the backplane to the rx and tx!
You have a "non-unified" chassis.

I got the receiver to tune up however, not quite to the sensitivity that I am
accustomed with GE! Only blows about .5 Microvolts @ 12 dB SINAD. I'd heard
that one needs to add length to the bolts in the helical in order to get them
to tune all the way down? Do you know if this is true?
I have a different solution to this problem. My solution does not compromise the
front end selectivity like when using longer tuning screws. Go to
and
for explanation of this solution. Also
the coils are now on sale from me if you choose to purchase them.

The exciter tuned up too. Although I had to dive into the schematics for a while
to figure out where to "test" the test points since I don't have a service box.
I just used a digital vom instead.
A simple 50 uA meter works fine.

Seems to work. But I can't get the crystal tune on frequency. It's high! The
crystal (147.165 MHz) will only
warp down to 147.166.4. I'm going to try sticking a 1-20 pF cap in parallel with
the varicap and see if I can get more range. (BTW, Didn't work in parallel with
the varicap but tried this with a 1 pF across the bottom of the
crystal and it worked! Right on frequency! Hot Darn!)
Your exciter must use elements with 4 pins, Correct? The 3 pin model (with K 1007A
element) is standard and does not have a modulator in it. This model utilizes
phase modulation. The 4 pin model (with KXN 1019 element) was originally designed
to transmit DPL (digital private line) and was a true fm exciter. I don't know why
the cap across the varactor did not work.

Lastly, this thing was configured as a remote base for a business. It has a
Squelch Gate Card, Line Driver Card, DC Transfer Card, Station Control Card
and TOT Card. Don't have a clue what some of these do except for the obvious.
Can't seem to get it to repeat with opening the squelch. Something is muting
the receiver when I push to manual tx key on the Station Card. So close but
yet so far! Any ideas?

Thanks!

Tracy
Yea, lots of ideas....

Are you going to use an outboard controller with this station? If so refer to

for information. If not, refer to and
ignore the rest.
On the first conversion, since your station is a NON UNI chassis, some things are
going to need to be translated. Read the information and try to understand the
CONCEPT, don't try to convert yours using the information. Basically to keep the
receiver from muting and to eliminate the need for the line driver card. Pull the
line driver card out. Then, on the Remote Control Chassis, (the chassis where the
cards go in) jump pin 15 to 39 (where the 50 pin ribbon is attached). This allows
the preamp audio from the receiver audio and squelch board to be fed into the
volume control to provide amplified receiver audio to drive a local speaker with
no muting action. My personal notes also show modification to the Audio & Squelch
board. My notes show to cut off the trace leading to IC 202 pin 14. Also cut trace
leading from the intersection of IC 202 pin 13 and C235 (a .22 uF) and the long
pins leading to the outside world. If anything is allowed to input to pin 13 on
the A&S board (except for having the .22 uF cap connected) will totally mess up
the action of this board.

Bottom line is to eliminate as many of the cards as possible. I do not care for
the way the Squelch Gate card manages the squelch action, or anything else it does
(I eliminate it because I use external controllers) . This concept is outlined in
the Station Modification listed above.

If you have trouble cross referencing the modification to the non uni chassis
email again and I will take the time to do it.


Hope this helps,
Kevin


Advice

 

Greetings to the list,

I am just beginning to embark on a 2-meter repeater-building project, and
could use some advice. I need to keep out-of-pocket expenses minimal, and use
as much of what components I have on hand as possible.

I have several Mocom 70's, which I've been told are easy to tune but you have
to use two to make a repeater. I've found someone who has a manual, so I'll
have that within a week or two. I also have two GE Master Pro's that I've
also been told can be made into repeaters without much trouble.

As it stands right now, my options are leaning toward using two Mocom 70's
with a basic controller. Bells and whistles can come later -- most important
thing is to get the thing built and hopefully on the air when the weather
warms up enough to do the antenna work -- which is another thing: I need to
find a site for the repeater.

Any suggestions will be appreciated; thanks in advance.

73,
Jeff, W9SAR


Repeater UHF

Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP
 

looking for a Repeater to set up on 461.900tx and 466.900rx with pl of
192.8 enc/dec
i have the duplexer and pa all that goo stuff looking for a rx with pre
amp and a transmitter anybody have one for sale ?

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146.625- 442.100+
Lewisburg, Tennessee

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Re: 222MHZ Micor repeater

 

In a message dated 2/15/99 9:08:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, kuggie@...
writes:

<<
Did anybody ever modify a vhf 160mhz micor base station for 220mhz???the
exciter is a true fm and not phase modulation..
I just did one and i used the mods for a mobile&nbsp; and i only getaround
50MW
out of the exciter on a bird meter, before the mod i was getting 600MW..
The mobile exciter i believe its a little different, has some different
components in the rf section&nbsp; not just in the phase modulationcircuit..
Any body has mods for the vhf base/repeater exciter????
Thanks
Fred</blockquote>Fred,
Which model 4 pin exciter do you have?
Kevin >>

The exciter is a TLD5322B and the channel element is a KXN1018C.... by the way
i can only get 2kc deviation out of the exciter, does anybody know which
capacitor i have to change in the element?

Thanks


Fred


Re: Thanks

Richard D. Reese
 

Kevin,

I know what you are going through. I also need to
re-arrange my site. It is in need of some serious
organization. I just have not made the time
available yet.

Take care and talk to you later.
Richard

Thanks..... Just trying for different look and
feel to sharing repeater related
information....which reminds me, I need to set
up links to your quality related information
from the rbtip site.

I have been busy over this past weekend. My
Repeater Builders site has grown from the
'little one page deal with a couple links' to a
rather nice size site. All of the repeater
related information was stuffed into one
directory on my home computer and the server.
Over the weekend I created a pix directory and
put all of the image files into it. I then had
to redo all of the web pages to point the <img
src> addressing to it. Well...... I forgot how
many pages I had published. It took 12 hours to
complete, and lots more time to test and see
what I had forgotten.

73,
Kevin

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Richard D. Reese WA8DBW
224.320, 444.200, 920.000, 2411.200 MHz
Voice 330-335-0122


222MHZ Micor repeater

 

Hello All..
Did anybody ever modify a vhf 160mhz micor base station for 220mhz??? the
exciter is a true fm and not phase modulation..
I just did one and i used the mods for a mobile and i only get around 50MW
out of the exciter on a bird meter, before the mod i was getting 600MW..
The mobile exciter i believe its a little different, has some different
components in the rf section not just in the phase modulation circuit..
Any body has mods for the vhf base/repeater exciter????

Thanks


Fred


Re: Thanks

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

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<p>"Richard D. Reese" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Kevin,
<p>Thanks for setting up the remailer.&nbsp; I am certain it will be of
great benefit to many of us.&nbsp; Keep up the good work.
<br>Rich&nbsp; WA8DBW
<br>--
<br>Richard D. Reese WA8DBW
<br>224.320, 444.200, 920.000 MHz
<br>Voice 330-335-0122
<br><a href="></a></blockquote>
Richard,
<p>Thanks..... Just trying for different look and feel to sharing repeater
related information....which reminds me, I need to set up links to your
quality related information from the rbtip site.
<p>I have been busy over this past weekend. My <i>Repeater Builders</i>
site has grown from the 'little one page deal with a couple links'&nbsp;
to a rather nice size site. All of the repeater related information was
stuffed into one directory on my home computer and the server. Over the
weekend I created a <i>pix directory</i> and put all of the image files
into it. I then had to redo all of the web pages to point the <img src>
addressing to it. Well...... I forgot how many pages I had published. It
took 12 hours to complete, and lots more time to test and see what I had
forgotten.
<p>73,
<br>Kevin
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Re: Disregard....TEST

Richard D. Reese
 

Kevin,

Thanks for setting up the remailer. I am certain
it will be of great benefit to many of us. Keep
up the good work.
Rich WA8DBW

"Kevin K. Custer W3KKC" wrote:

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I am testing some capabilities here.

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Kevin Custer W3KKC
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Richard D. Reese WA8DBW
224.320, 444.200, 920.000 MHz
Voice 330-335-0122


Disregard....TEST

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

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FS: Digital Audio Delay Modules

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

Hi Guys,

We overbuilt DADMs and I have a couple hundred in stock that I'd
like to clear out. If anyone has a commercial or amateur use for
them, AND needs a large quantity (let's say 10 or more), contact
me about pricing.
For fewer than ten, they'll still be $50 each - - which still
ain't a bad deal.

Thanks!

Bob Schmid, WA9FBO
S-COM Industries
970-663-6000 voice
970-669-1585 fax
scomind@...


Re: Repeater-builder list server

Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP
 

now thats good pic's and all hey pretty neat ..i just got the confirm of
being added and sent a message to check it out ..faster than
repeater@onelist for some reason but maybe the time of day and my server
might be working good tonight have had problems with it the past few
days.
Thank you Kevin looking forward to info

Kevin K Custer W3KKC wrote:

Brent,
Maybe this will help also.
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Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

Brent,
Maybe this will help also.
FYI


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Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP
 

Great it works !! hello to all

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FS: ACC 850 with extras

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

I saw this and thought it would be appropriate to list here.

Kevin

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:
FS: ACC RC-850/ DVR-1/ FC-900 System
Date:
Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:27:17 -0500
From:
Matt <matt371@...>
Organization:
InterActive Network - Serving S. NJ (609)227-4428
Newsgroups:
rec.radio.swap


For Sale: Complete repeater controller and remote base system.
Package includes:

- RC-850 Controller with full front panel display, speech
board, telephone interconnect board, computer interface board,
and version 3.8 firmware.
- DVR-1 Digital voice recorder populated with memory.
- FC900 Remote base interface
- ICOM UX-29H 2 meter band unit
- ICOM UX-39A 220 band unit

All of these units are clean and were in working condition when
removed from service. OF course as with any used
equipment there is no warranty. If you are non-technical this is
NOT the system for you. There are a lot of connections and
programming involved to make everything function properly.

I would prefer pickup in South Jersey but I will ship to lower 48
(buyer pays shipping and insurance). Pay by MO or
Cashiers check ONLY.

PRICE $1750.00 COMPLETE

Please reply to matt371@...

Thanks
Matt

FYI Would be willing to take an ACC RC-96 in trade toward this
package.