"If you are building the cable for the repeater it is easy to build the serial cable."
If is not a serial cable going the repeater.
Mick - W7CAT
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Moss KC5KCT" To: [email protected]Sent: Friday, November 11, 2022 04:47:08 AM Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] CAT-1000B for sale Since CATAUTO is no more, ask around and software is available. The cable is serial. If you are building the cable for the repeater it is easy to build the serial cable. Read the manual on repeater-builder to know how.
73 Thomas KC5KCT
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Hello, Does anyone know the tuning procedure for this unit?
I am unsure about the 3 tuning controls on the connection side.
Thanks.
Tony, W2KJV
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Re: Motorola UHF MTR 3000
contact me off line if interested
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 08:52:39 a.m. EST, neal Newman via groups.io <cozy659@...> wrote:
how much you asking? for the MTR3000?
? ka2caf
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 08:44:34 AM EST, dshack@... <dshack@...> wrote:
Any one interested in a 100 watt UHF MTR 3000 before it goes to flea bay
I can be reached at dshack at rogers dot com
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Re: Motorola UHF MTR 3000
how much you asking? for the MTR3000?
? ka2caf
On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 08:44:34 AM EST, dshack@... <dshack@...> wrote:
Any one interested in a 100 watt UHF MTR 3000 before it goes to flea bay
I can be reached at dshack at rogers dot com
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Any one interested in a 100 watt UHF MTR 3000 before it goes to flea bay
I can be reached at dshack at rogers dot com
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Since CATAUTO is no more, ask around and software is available. The cable is serial. If you are building the cable for the repeater it is easy to build the serial cable. Read the manual on repeater-builder to know how.
73 Thomas KC5KCT
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Re: Tone remote interfacing for dummies?
If done right these are pretty useful systems. Lots of radio (commercial) like your CDM are easily interfaced. Some used BCD logic to channel steer or control the radio. Each function is mapped to a given tone frequency. ?Telex makes the DSP-223 series TRA. They do a lot. CPI also makes/made good TRA as well as remotes. There are several others including Motorola.?
As far as E&M this can be done. However you probably won¡¯t want a dedicated leases line from your telco (too expensive). Common in analog microwave world. ?I have messed with E&M over IP using Cisco ISR routers. This works well. I know of guys who link their repeaters doing this. Advantage here is everything is IP transport
I use the Telex IP-223 adapters. They are hybrid between IP and tone remotes. I use this in conjunction with a Cisco GRE ipsec tunnel for transport. You could use Cisco ISR (2600/2800/2900 type routers) for both tunneling and E&M?
Jim.?
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On Nov 10, 2022, at 9:18 PM, Bob <wa9fbo@...> wrote:
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Hi Matt,
At the dispatcher end, there's a "tone remote" that typically
encodes a 2175 Hz high level guard tone, followed by one of
several function tones, followed by 2175 Hz at a lower level for
the duration of the dispatcher's transmission. (I say "typically"
because there's an ARINC 2300 Hz system, and perhaps others.) The
tone remote can be a standalone telephone-style device with a PTT
bar in the handset, or the job can be done by a dispatch console.
No doubt you've already read up on the tone formats and
amplitudes.
At the base station end, there's a "tone remote adapter" (TRA)
that detects the tones, executes the function associated with the
function tone, keys the TX if appropriate, and feeds audio with
2175 Hz removed to the TX. Audio from the RX is sent back to the
dispatcher if the dispatcher is not keying. It sounds like the TRA
is the device you're interested in. A quick Google search will
turn up a number of these.
73,
Bob, WA9FBO
S-COM, LLC
P.O.
Box 1546
LaPorte,
CO 80535
970-416-6505
On 11/10/2022 8:27 PM, Matt Wagner
wrote:
Hi smart folks,
I¡¯ve read a fair bit on the site and on the
Internet at large about how tone remote stuff works. I think I
understand the theory fairly well. What I¡¯m less clear on is how
people go about interfacing it with regular radios.
I have an old Motorola CommandPlus dispatch
console, and would love to interface it locally with some
radios¡ªnot fancy stuff with a tone remote interface, but stuff
like a tri-band Kenwood mobile and a Motorola CDM. I really want
to just turn the tone-remote signaling into bidirectional audio
and some basic PTT keying.?
The tone signaling is seemingly the wrong tool for
the job here, but it¡¯s the one I have. It looks like E&M
signaling for the console is an expensive hardware kit for
something not really produced anymore. But the tone remote stuff
seems to keep coming up in miscellaneous other stuff.
Are there some favored tools for converting
between tone interfaces and audio/COS/PTT? Did anyone ever made
a Raspberry Pi sort of interface?
Thanks for indulging my curiosity about an overly
complicated project.
73,
Matt, N1ZYY
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Re: Tone remote interfacing for dummies?
Hi Matt,
At the dispatcher end, there's a "tone remote" that typically
encodes a 2175 Hz high level guard tone, followed by one of
several function tones, followed by 2175 Hz at a lower level for
the duration of the dispatcher's transmission. (I say "typically"
because there's an ARINC 2300 Hz system, and perhaps others.) The
tone remote can be a standalone telephone-style device with a PTT
bar in the handset, or the job can be done by a dispatch console.
No doubt you've already read up on the tone formats and
amplitudes.
At the base station end, there's a "tone remote adapter" (TRA)
that detects the tones, executes the function associated with the
function tone, keys the TX if appropriate, and feeds audio with
2175 Hz removed to the TX. Audio from the RX is sent back to the
dispatcher if the dispatcher is not keying. It sounds like the TRA
is the device you're interested in. A quick Google search will
turn up a number of these.
73,
Bob, WA9FBO
S-COM, LLC
P.O.
Box 1546
LaPorte,
CO 80535
970-416-6505
On 11/10/2022 8:27 PM, Matt Wagner
wrote:
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Hi smart folks,
I¡¯ve read a fair bit on the site and on the
Internet at large about how tone remote stuff works. I think I
understand the theory fairly well. What I¡¯m less clear on is how
people go about interfacing it with regular radios.
I have an old Motorola CommandPlus dispatch
console, and would love to interface it locally with some
radios¡ªnot fancy stuff with a tone remote interface, but stuff
like a tri-band Kenwood mobile and a Motorola CDM. I really want
to just turn the tone-remote signaling into bidirectional audio
and some basic PTT keying.?
The tone signaling is seemingly the wrong tool for
the job here, but it¡¯s the one I have. It looks like E&M
signaling for the console is an expensive hardware kit for
something not really produced anymore. But the tone remote stuff
seems to keep coming up in miscellaneous other stuff.
Are there some favored tools for converting
between tone interfaces and audio/COS/PTT? Did anyone ever made
a Raspberry Pi sort of interface?
Thanks for indulging my curiosity about an overly
complicated project.
73,
Matt, N1ZYY
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I've built several 2 M. Z-matchers, using either piston or APC air variable caps around 30 pf maximum, and a coil of 3 turns of Nr 22 wire, 1/4" i.d.? These 3 components are wired in a Pi configuration.? Keep the coil leads short.
73, Gary? W3DTN
On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 10:07:01 PM EST, Jim W7RY via groups.io <jimw7ry@...> wrote:
For the MASTR II VHF PA? If so, our Z matcher has air variables on
it.
Jim W7RY
On 11/10/2022 8:20 PM, Jamie WW3S
wrote:
anyone have one to share? What value for the piston trimmers for
the 2 meter band??
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Thanks and 73, Jim W7RY
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Tone remote interfacing for dummies?
Hi smart folks,
I¡¯ve read a fair bit on the site and on the Internet at large about how tone remote stuff works. I think I understand the theory fairly well. What I¡¯m less clear on is how people go about interfacing it with regular radios.
I have an old Motorola CommandPlus dispatch console, and would love to interface it locally with some radios¡ªnot fancy stuff with a tone remote interface, but stuff like a tri-band Kenwood mobile and a Motorola CDM. I really want to just turn the tone-remote signaling into bidirectional audio and some basic PTT keying.?
The tone signaling is seemingly the wrong tool for the job here, but it¡¯s the one I have. It looks like E&M signaling for the console is an expensive hardware kit for something not really produced anymore. But the tone remote stuff seems to keep coming up in miscellaneous other stuff.
Are there some favored tools for converting between tone interfaces and audio/COS/PTT? Did anyone ever made a Raspberry Pi sort of interface?
Thanks for indulging my curiosity about an overly complicated project.
73, Matt, N1ZYY
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For the MASTR II VHF PA? If so, our Z matcher has air variables on
it.
Jim W7RY
On 11/10/2022 8:20 PM, Jamie WW3S
wrote:
anyone have one to share? What value for the piston trimmers for
the 2 meter band??
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Thanks and 73, Jim W7RY
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Re: R1225 Ribbon Cable set
I am not currently in a position to part with them, but in case a close-up photo is helpful, please see attached.
It is my understanding from the Repeater Builder page that they¡¯re 0.1¡± spaced. They look somewhat like old IDE drive cables, but those had two rows. I don¡¯t know if they are actually compatible spacing.
I recently bought a few old R1225s that had a weird adapter on the front. You do not need the full control head to run the repeater, or even to program them. Third photo is of the oddball connector¡ªnote also the jumper to the left to power it on. This had an RJ-45 port seemingly for programming. This was a weird setup, but the point is that you can get by without the control head if required.
73, Matt, N1ZYY
Anyone have a set of HKN9032A R1225 chassis to control head ribbon cables they would be willing to sell??
Jeremy K1LFK?
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anyone have one to share? What value for the piston trimmers for the 2 meter band??
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we bought the cable, but dont believe it works.....and I think we are going to keep the software for now.?
------ Original Message ------
Date 11/10/2022 8:58:58 PM
Subject Re: [repeater-builder] CAT-1000B for sale
Do you have the cable and the software
On Thu, Nov 10, 2022, 11:11 AM Jamie WW3S < ww3s@...> wrote:
New, never installed, local club bought it 10 years ago, and project never got off the ground. no box, but new, from the factory.?Includes the rack mount enclosure, DR-1000 DVR, DL-1000C audio delay board. ?when last sold was well over 1000.00. Sell for 575.00 shipped to US zip code, paypal ok
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Do you have the cable and the software
On Thu, Nov 10, 2022, 11:11 AM Jamie WW3S < ww3s@...> wrote:
New, never installed, local club bought it 10 years ago, and project never got off the ground. no box, but new, from the factory.?Includes the rack mount enclosure, DR-1000 DVR, DL-1000C audio delay board. ?when last sold was well over 1000.00. Sell for 575.00 shipped to US zip code, paypal ok
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Re: Kenwood TKR-D810 External Controller?
Is the audio available on the control board, just not brought out to the accessory connector?
Bob NO6B
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At 11/9/2022 02:33 PM, you wrote: No, it cannot and I've been bitching at Kenwood about it ever since the D series came out
Ken
At 02:24 PM 11/9/2022, you wrote:
Does anyone know if the Kenwood TKR-D810 can support external audio in and out when used in analog mode?
Looking at the service manual and the pinout for the DB-25F "Control I/O" connector, there are pins labeled "TA, TD, RA, RD" but they say "not used".
Anyone dealt with something like this? Curious.
Also, anyone know how the things do out of band (i.e. 450-520MHz unit down to 440MHz)?
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Trustee - MetroNET Cal. Intertie (KB3PX)
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Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
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Band Reject only. See the attached doc.
73, Joe, K1ike
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On 11/9/2022 8:41 PM, George Csahanin wrote: Hey folks I have a db 4096 duplexer on a 927 repeater. Works fine. But I may need to take it to a "real" site. Something tells me these are notch only but cannot find anything on this model. Anybody have any thoughts on it? It is rackmount with holes in the front panel to do the tuning. And with no separate pass and notch tuning I'm pretty sure this is a notch only...or a pass only.
Any thoughts?
GeorgeC W2DB
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Re: R1225 Ribbon Cable set
Thanks all. I'm trying to source or buils an original cable set. I have a chassis and housing, just missing the cables. Trying to make a complete repeater.?
Jeremy?
On Thu, Nov 10, 2022, 7:50 AM M M < wa6ilq@...> wrote: The GM300 head has two connectors, like the R1225 head.
Yes, the volume control and microphone jack of the GM300 head works on an R1225
(the speaker works as well as long as the 15-to-16 jumper on the R1225 accessory connector is there).
Don't waste your time with the display cable. It's a different pinout.
It would take rewiring the cable and a few etch cuts and jumpers on the GM300 display board to get everything working.
Rick:? I wasn't aware that you had R1225s anywhere?
Mike WA6ILQ
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Re: Serial port on Kenwood NXR-710 - Requires software?
No difference as far as interfacing to an external controller.
The question was regarding a TKR-D710/D810, which is a DMR/Analog
repeater. The? NXR-710/810 are NextEdge/Analog repeaters.
Kenwood made the choice to now allow their DMR repeaters to use an
external controller for analog use. It's interesting to note that Kenwood
released the TKR-D series just before they acquired EF Johnson and
another company (whose name escapes me at the moment) that specialized in
DMR equiprment, located in Texas
Ken
At 12:49 PM 11/10/2022, you wrote:
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Curious what is the
difference between an nxr810 and a tkr810.? I would need audio in
and out on the db25 as the 850 does.?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Arck AH6LE
To:
[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2022 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] Serial port on Kenwood NXR-710 -
Requires software?
John
It only works with the KPG software or to upload new firmware using their
Fpro software.
On a side note, you can use the DB25 on the back panel of the NXR for
your serial connection when using the KPG software (but you must use the
mic when using Fpro)
Ken
At 12:01 PM 11/10/2022, you wrote:
Does the serial port interface
on a Kenwood NXR-710 (the one through the mic plug) only function with
the companion programming software KPG-129D or can one do anything with a
simple terminal interface?
73
John, kx4o
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Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
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President and CTO - Arcom Controllers
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories
Phone: (503) 678 6182
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave.
We offer complete turn-key repeater packages!
"We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!"
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Re: Up for sale on Hamradioauctions.com
They should swoop in and tax all those garage sales around me. Some folks make a living by it it seems. Meanwhile Jeff Bozo can write off his rocket hobby.
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The Real RFI-EMI-GUY
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Matt Wagner
Ken Arck AH6LE
RFI-EMI-GUY