Re: Anyone using FM mode on the Repeater Builder STM32 MMDVM board with an MSF5000?
Richard
did you add dificulties connect it at your MSF5000?
do you think it would worked on a MSR2000 or a Tait TB7100 ?
thanks,merci
gervais ve2ckn
Your question may? also get answered by some one else .
?That's why we use forums.
Richard
Le mar. 23 févr. 2021 8 h 37 p.m., Ron < rolexa@...> a écrit?:
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Thank you Richard,? I'll dig into the link you provided.? Do you have an email I can connect directly if i have questions?
On 2/23/2021 8:28 PM, Richard Aubin VE2DJE wrote:
I have 2? FM / DMR repeater? working . One on the? bench and? another on the air? with a MSF5000.
The procedure? I used?? is the? following?
/g/OpenDV/message/851.
I am not using PI-Star,? just? the MMDVM Dashboard .
Still digging on the FM Gateway?? , Steep learning curve? but I? have time? .
Richard
Le 2021-02-21 à 17:34, Ron a écrit?:
Now that FM mode is available on the V3 card, I'm thinking about using it as an external controller on my MSF5000 repeater.? I just updated my V3 card with the latest software, and upgraded to the latest Pi-Star image and am ready to
build an interface cable for the MSF 5000.
I'm finding little data online about the FM mode, so reaching out here.
Has anyone got these 2 devices connected together and working FM plus digital modes?? Any info on how difficult it is to integrate and how well it works would be appreciated.
Ron
KA3JIJ
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Re: Anyone using FM mode on the Repeater Builder STM32 MMDVM board with an MSF5000?
Richard
c'est quoi un .odt?
quel logiciel,
merci
gervais ve2ckn
Your question may? also get answered by some one else .
?That's why we use forums.
Richard
Le mar. 23 févr. 2021 8 h 37 p.m., Ron < rolexa@...> a écrit?:
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Thank you Richard,? I'll dig into the link you provided.? Do you have an email I can connect directly if i have questions?
On 2/23/2021 8:28 PM, Richard Aubin VE2DJE wrote:
I have 2? FM / DMR repeater? working . One on the? bench and? another on the air? with a MSF5000.
The procedure? I used?? is the? following?
/g/OpenDV/message/851.
I am not using PI-Star,? just? the MMDVM Dashboard .
Still digging on the FM Gateway?? , Steep learning curve? but I? have time? .
Richard
Le 2021-02-21 à 17:34, Ron a écrit?:
Now that FM mode is available on the V3 card, I'm thinking about using it as an external controller on my MSF5000 repeater.? I just updated my V3 card with the latest software, and upgraded to the latest Pi-Star image and am ready to
build an interface cable for the MSF 5000.
I'm finding little data online about the FM mode, so reaching out here.
Has anyone got these 2 devices connected together and working FM plus digital modes?? Any info on how difficult it is to integrate and how well it works would be appreciated.
Ron
KA3JIJ
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Re: Anyone here familiar with a Zetron model 42 controller?
Zetron did not use the standard pin out of db-9 connectors. Check in any of their manuals for the pin outs (don’t have a manual handy here now or I’d post it)
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On Feb 24, 2021, at 10:09 AM, M M <wa6ilq@...> wrote:
? Yes, it's a LTR controller, and not of much interest to hams...? but I'm helping a gentleman with an LTR system that uses the Zetron 42s....? and the manual sucks in the area of establishing serial communication with them.
So a request.. if anyone here knows the magical incantation needed to make the front panel DB9 port work I'd be interested in chatting with you.? I have two systems each with several Zetron 42s and I need to drain the billing data.
Thanks in advance
Mike
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Anyone here familiar with a Zetron model 42 controller?
Yes, it's a LTR controller, and not of much interest to hams...? but I'm helping a gentleman with an LTR system that uses the Zetron 42s....? and the manual sucks in the area of establishing serial communication with them.
So a request.. if anyone here knows the magical incantation needed to make the front panel DB9 port work I'd be interested in chatting with you.? I have two systems each with several Zetron 42s and I need to drain the billing data.
Thanks in advance
Mike
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Re: Avoid Bomar crystals (was) Re: [repeater-builder] Krystaly Rocks for MSR2000
At 2/22/2021 03:22 PM, you wrote: Hey Bob NO6B: if you want to suggest "removing Bomar from the crystal suppliers list" you need to contact the person listed at the top of that "suppliers" page. Clicking his name will bring you to a contact page.
It's likely that not every one of their customers has had a bad experience; so it might be doing a dis-service to those if the entry is removed. It's probably kinder to find reliable alternatives and add them to the list. That's a rather bad advert for a company: buy our product, & maybe you'll get lucky & get one that works. I'll hold off on making a recommendation until I get my Krystaly order. If they work out I think it really would be best to replace the Bomar listing. Bob NO6B
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Re: COR Signal from HT1000 (or similar) for Remote Receiver
Tony, while this may not work for you, I want to mention something our club did to maintain temperature stability at a remote site subject to wild ambient temperature swings. We mounted the remote receiver and link transmitter in a homemade wooden box slightly larger than necessary to house the equipment. Both the receiver and transmitter were crystal controlled and not in heated ovens. Then we placed a small incandescent bulb inside the box. This kept the equipment at a fairly constant temperature once it reached equilibrium. I don't recall if the bulb was one of the larger Christmas tree types or an oven lamp but either way it was not many watts. This was back in the 1970s. The radios were Midland ham grade mobiles. It was an inexpensive solution that worked for years until we had the money to upgrade to commercial radios with TCXOs.
73 and aloha, Eric KH6CQ
On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 6:25:01 PM HST, Troy Lousen <tlousenrb@...> wrote:
Yes.? I prefer not to have the challenge of finding crystals that work good year round in an uncontrolled temperature environment on a high mountain top in Northern Idaho or Eastern Washington - and can't have a heater for an off grid site.
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On 02/23/2021 7:05 PM SRG <srg734@...> wrote:
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I think Troy would prefer to use a programmable set of radios as not have to deal with the crystal /channel element thing.
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Regards, Karl Shoemaker
To contact me, please visit SRG's web site at?
for the current email address.
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Troy Lousen
N7KAM
Spokane? WA
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Re: COR Signal from HT1000 (or similar) for Remote Receiver
Yes.? I prefer not to have the challenge of finding crystals that work good year round in an uncontrolled temperature environment on a high mountain top in Northern Idaho or Eastern Washington - and can't have a heater for an off grid site.
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On 02/23/2021 7:05 PM SRG <srg734@...> wrote:
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I think Troy would prefer to use a programmable set of radios as not have to deal with the crystal /channel element thing.
--
Regards, Karl Shoemaker
To contact me, please visit SRG's web site at?
for the current email address.
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Troy Lousen
N7KAM
Spokane? WA
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Re: Anyone using FM mode on the Repeater Builder STM32 MMDVM board with an MSF5000?
Your question may? also get answered by some one else . ?That's why we use forums. Richard
Le mar. 23 févr. 2021 8 h 37 p.m., Ron < rolexa@...> a écrit?:
Thank you Richard,? I'll dig into the link you provided.? Do you
have an email I can connect directly if i have questions?
On 2/23/2021 8:28 PM, Richard Aubin
VE2DJE wrote:
I have 2? FM / DMR repeater? working . One on the? bench and?
another on the air? with a MSF5000.
The procedure? I used?? is the? following?
/g/OpenDV/message/851.
I am not using PI-Star,? just? the MMDVM Dashboard .
Still digging on the FM Gateway?? , Steep learning curve? but
I? have time? .
Richard
Le 2021-02-21 à 17:34, Ron a écrit?:
Now that FM mode is available on the V3 card, I'm thinking about
using it as an external controller on my MSF5000 repeater.? I
just updated my V3 card with the latest software, and upgraded
to the latest Pi-Star image and am ready to build an interface
cable for the MSF 5000.
I'm finding little data online about the FM mode, so reaching
out here.
Has anyone got these 2 devices connected together and working FM
plus digital modes?? Any info on how difficult it is to
integrate and how well it works would be appreciated.
Ron
KA3JIJ
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We have to keep clarifying between the "tools" (modulator) and methods (how this tool is used).? I have a pretty good page about FM and other goodies (scroll down).
https://www.srgclub.org/LinkRadios.html
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Regards, Karl Shoemaker
To contact me, please visit SRG's web site at?
for the current email address.
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Re: COR Signal from HT1000 (or similar) for Remote Receiver
I think Troy would prefer to use a programmable set of radios as not have to deal with the crystal /channel element thing.
--
Regards, Karl Shoemaker
To contact me, please visit SRG's web site at?
for the current email address.
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Re: Anyone using FM mode on the Repeater Builder STM32 MMDVM board with an MSF5000?
Thank you Richard,? I'll dig into the link you provided.? Do you
have an email I can connect directly if i have questions?
On 2/23/2021 8:28 PM, Richard Aubin
VE2DJE wrote:
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I have 2? FM / DMR repeater? working . One on the? bench and?
another on the air? with a MSF5000.
The procedure? I used?? is the? following?
/g/OpenDV/message/851.
I am not using PI-Star,? just? the MMDVM Dashboard .
Still digging on the FM Gateway?? , Steep learning curve? but
I? have time? .
Richard
Le 2021-02-21 à 17:34, Ron a écrit?:
Now that FM mode is available on the V3 card, I'm thinking about
using it as an external controller on my MSF5000 repeater.? I
just updated my V3 card with the latest software, and upgraded
to the latest Pi-Star image and am ready to build an interface
cable for the MSF 5000.
I'm finding little data online about the FM mode, so reaching
out here.
Has anyone got these 2 devices connected together and working FM
plus digital modes?? Any info on how difficult it is to
integrate and how well it works would be appreciated.
Ron
KA3JIJ
|
Re: Anyone using FM mode on the Repeater Builder STM32 MMDVM board with an MSF5000?
I have 2? FM / DMR repeater? working . One on the? bench and?
another on the air? with a MSF5000.
The procedure? I used?? is the? following?
/g/OpenDV/message/851.
I am not using PI-Star,? just? the MMDVM Dashboard .
Still digging on the FM Gateway?? , Steep learning curve? but I?
have time? .
Richard
Le 2021-02-21 à 17:34, Ron a écrit?:
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Now that FM mode is available on the V3 card, I'm thinking about
using it as an external controller on my MSF5000 repeater.? I just
updated my V3 card with the latest software, and upgraded to the
latest Pi-Star image and am ready to build an interface cable for
the MSF 5000.
I'm finding little data online about the FM mode, so reaching out
here.
Has anyone got these 2 devices connected together and working FM
plus digital modes?? Any info on how difficult it is to integrate
and how well it works would be appreciated.
Ron
KA3JIJ
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Re: TPRD-1554 Repaired (was TPRD-1554 Troubleshooting)
At 2/23/2021 01:16 AM, you wrote: Aloha from Down Under..
Not being sure which cap is installed in this duplexer,
I wonder if these rather cute lil things might do the trick.
I obtained a few some 10 years ago through a South Australian company,
www.ajdistributors.com.au
Back then they were each AU$23.80 inc GST. (worth their weight in gold)
I suspect they are imported.
Search this url for supplier > Voltronics > AIR TRIMMER > A3T10
They are excellent quality.
73 John VK4JKL Digi-Key carries Voltronics trimcaps. The above part number is listed as being obsolete, but they have many others that cover the 1-10 pF range & same Q (2000) of the A3T10 that are in stock such as the AT10-4. Pricey though. Bob NO6B
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Re: Sinclair Q202GC Duplexers.
Yeah, that's an old-style Q202.? The drawing that Eric drew does not apply to this one, it was for the later/current version Q202G.? Look at the old Q202 manual:? ? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? --- Jeff WN3A ?
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Re: Sinclair Q202GC Duplexers.
The figures listed below looks correct. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of avvidclif
Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2021 17:54
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] Sinclair Q202GC Duplexers.? The 4 connected directly to the cavities are 10.5" (cable end-end). The other 2 are 11.5". The cables to the Ant "T" are 13" & 14".
After trial and error I get the RX and TX down to 1.3dB ea. The Notches are HP 75dB and LP 87dB. Tuned to currently 146.84-146.24.
The Tuning stubs in the notches are 5". I made new ones from brass and will silver plate them today. The old were copper tubing.
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Clif Holland KA5IPF
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Re: TPRD-1554 Repaired (was TPRD-1554 Troubleshooting)
Eric KH6CQ
Well done!? And a good write-up on the procedure you used to clean and fix that little varialble cap.
73, Gary? W3DTN
On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:39:11 AM EST, Eric Grabowski via groups.io <ejgrabowski@...> wrote:
The problem was erratic behavior observed on the SA while tweaking the notch
capacitor on the cavity closest to the antenna TEE in the receive
branch. Touching the trimmer with an insulated tuning tool, as well as turning the capacitor, caused the
notch to jump around wildly. I pulled the loop and it all seemed to be intact. The solder joints looked shiny and solid, and there was no evidence of arcing.
Several group members surmised the capacitor was faulty and recommended replacing it. Skipp and Jeff suggested trying to clean the capacitor first and then replace it if necessary. Jeff suggested removing the rotor and doing a visual inspection but I wasn't sure I would be able to put it back together successfully after cleaning it, so I tried Skipp's method. I figured if that didn't work, I could move on to Jeff's method and then if that didn't work I'd bite the bullet and have to replace the capacitor. Here's the procedure Skipp recommended:
"Best to use a black sharpie marker to indicate the probe/loop position, remove
it, then clean the disc edges with a real brass brush. Obtain some Caig Labs
DeoxIT D5 (red can only), and flood the top of the piston capacitor. Then carefully exercise
the capacitor throughout it's normal range of travel. Turn it upside down and use
modest compressed air to "blow it out" then repeat the range exercise and blow
out one or two more times. Return the probe to it's former location."
That did the trick. I let the loop assembly dry for a few hours before re-installing it in the cavity. Then I adjusted the capacitor watching the notch on the SA. Nice smooth operation above and below the desired notch frequency. Notch depth was about -35 dB.
The hardest part was obtaining the DeoxIT D5. While it's easy to buy on the mainland, no one would ship it to Hawaii. After a lot of fruitless searching I found an outfit that was doing stage rigging for a local production company and they had an extra can in stock.
Since these capacitors are not easy to buy any more, I hope sharing my experience will help others in the future. Thanks to everyone who responded to my query.
73 and aloha, Eric KH6CQ
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Re: Sinclair Q202GC Duplexers.
 -- Clif Holland KA5IPF www.avvid.com
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Re: Sinclair Q202GC Duplexers.
The 4 connected directly to the cavities are 10.5" (cable end-end). The other 2 are 11.5". The cables to the Ant "T" are 13" & 14".
After trial and error I get the RX and TX down to 1.3dB ea. The Notches are HP 75dB and LP 87dB. Tuned to currently 146.84-146.24.
The Tuning stubs in the notches are 5". I made new ones from brass and will silver plate them today. The old were copper tubing.
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Clif Holland KA5IPF
www.avvid.com
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Re: Sinclair Q202GC Duplexers.
RG142 and RG400 mentioned by the OP is
most certainly double shielded and silver plated.
Kevin W3KKC
On 2/23/2021 2:10 AM, Jan van der Vyver wrote:
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I
have found the best cable for interlinking is RG214, as it
is double shielded.? RG142 is not double shielded.
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Regards
Jan
ZS1VDV
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Re: Sinclair Q202GC Duplexers.
- I recently purchased a set of these cavities in the cabinet.
? There are rather different versions of the Q202 – those with dielectric-tuned capacitors and those with piston trimmer capacitors.? The two have very different harnesses as well.? I can't tell from your original message which you have.? Post a pic of the duplexer you have and I'll give you the correct cable lengths.? ? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? --- Jeff WN3A ?
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Karl Shoemaker
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