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Re: 09 Dec 2024 Suspected non-Io-C

 

On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 02:51 PM, Dave Typinski wrote:
I do not remember Nancay's file naming scheme -- do they name the files
1) with the date of the start of the observation like everyone else, or
2) with the date of the /end/ of the observation in an effort to confuse everyone, or
3) with whatever date takes up the greater portion of the spectrogram, to REALLY confuse everyone, including themselves?
It's #2, as you guessed! Up until now, when I examined my recordings in the morning, Nancay data was available with the current day's timestamp. This rules out the possibility that the date refers to the start of the spectrogram, because these times are still in the future in the morning.
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To make it a little more transparent: France and Germany are in the same time zone. Local midnight is one hour after UTC midnight.
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At this time of year, our data recording always starts in the evening of the previous day and ends in the early morning hours of the day shown in the Nancay timestamp. You can remember this by saying that the timestamp is on the right of the image and refers to the data to the right.
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At the moment, the Nancay images are being uploaded with a significant delay. The responsible employee is probably already on Christmas vacation and someone has to take over. Let's hope that nothing gets mixed up.
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Sabine
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Re: Weak Io-C 2024-12-09

 

Hi Carl,
Thanks for info. Now "happy" again!
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Aloha - john s,


Re: Weak Io-C 2024-12-09

 

Thanks?
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Aloha - john s,


Re: Weak Io-C 2024-12-09

 

John,
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a tip: Set the center frequency 2 MHz higher (22 MHz), then you'll be rid of the European radio band. Just follow Jupiter's signals to higher frequencies.
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Sabine
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Germany
Standard time: UTC +1 hour


Re: Dec 10 2024 Jupiter RCP and LCP - Heliotown

 

Thanks Tom! Some nice non-Io-A (RCP) followed by some non-Io-C (LCP).
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Dave

On 12/10/24 21:03, Thomas Ashcraft wrote:
Dec 10 2024 Jupiter RCP and LCP - Heliotown. Sorry, no time to label nor
interpret tonight. In haste, Tom




10 Dec 2024 non-Io-A

 

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Here's some nice non-Io-A from the 10th.
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Dave

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09 Dec 2024 non-Io-A

 

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Here's some non-Io-A from the 9th.? Tom's spectrogram showed RCP dominance, thus A instead of C.
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Dave

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Dec 10 2024 Jupiter RCP and LCP - Heliotown

 

Dec 10 2024 Jupiter RCP and LCP - Heliotown. Sorry, no time to label nor
interpret tonight. In haste, Tom


Solar 12/10/2024 Easley, South Carolina

 

Good evening:
? ? ?Solar from today. Unfortunately, RFI in the first two.

John


Re: Weak Io-C 2024-12-09

 

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hi carl,
nice noise clean spectra - we are fighting with the commercial radio signals. You dont have that at all!.
thanks john s.

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Re: Sun, Sun, Dec. 9, 2024 Gainesville, FL

 

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Hi Salvador,
Thanks, yes you got the solar bursts

Francisco


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Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 6:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [Radio JOVE] Sun, Sun, Dec. 9, 2024 Gainesville, FL
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Hi Francisco and John,
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I Think catch the first event??
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Regards
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Salvador


Dec 09 2024 Jupiter - Heliotown

 

Dec 09 2024 Jupiter - Heliotown. Matches Carl's general posted time.- Tom


Re: Weak Io-C 2024-12-09

 

John....
There are days and weeks where my spectra is nothing but noise.? Too a point I have to crank color offsets to the mif THOUNSANDS...

Carl


On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 11:42?PM john sommer via <josom0212=[email protected]> wrote:
hi carl,
nice noise clean spectra - we are fighting with the commercial radio signals. You dont have that at all!.
thanks john s.
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Aloha - john s,


Re: solar type III at 1618 UT.

 

I saw it, several very strong bursts at 35 MHz.

-Kevin

On Dec 10, 2024, at 11:23 AM, Thomas Ashcraft via groups.io <ashcraft@...> wrote:

solar type III at 1618 UT. - Tom






solar type III at 1618 UT.

 

solar type III at 1618 UT. - Tom


Re: 09 Dec 2024 Suspected non-Io-C

 

Hi Sabine,

You definitely saw Jupiter. Either non-Io-A'' or non-Io-C.

Strange that Nancay didn't see it.

Strange that the Nancay spectrogram, ostensibly for the 9th, shows an RCP vertex late non-Io-A-style arc instead of the normal RCP vertex early Io-B arc at around 2100 UTC on the 8th.

I do not remember Nancay's file naming scheme -- do they name the files
1) with the date of the start of the observation like everyone else, or
2) with the date of the /end/ of the observation in an effort to confuse everyone, or
3) with whatever date takes up the greater portion of the spectrogram, to REALLY confuse everyone, including themselves?

I thought it was #2, but if that's so, their J241209 spectrogram you posted is rather strange.

If it's #1, then they saw that vertex late arc at 2100 on the 9th, then that is indeed in a normal non-Io-A area of the phase plane.

Just for fun, you might compare their J241210 spectrogram (after they make it available) with this spectrogram of yours from the 10th.
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Dave

On 12/10/24 04:23, Sabine Cremer wrote:
After an Io-B event, an event occurred in zone "C" which I am cautiously calling
non-Io-C. Caution is advisable because nothing can be seen in the Nancay
spectrograms, but there is hope because both Faraday banding and weak modulation
lanes are visible in parts of the spectrogram.
Sabine
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Germany
Standard time: UTC +1 hour


Re: Sun, Sun, Dec. 9, 2024 Gainesville, FL

 

Hi Francisco and John,
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I Think catch the first event??
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Regards
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Salvador


09 Dec 2024 Suspected non-Io-C

 

After an Io-B event, an event occurred in zone "C" which I am cautiously calling non-Io-C. Caution is advisable because nothing can be seen in the Nancay spectrograms, but there is hope because both Faraday banding and weak modulation lanes are visible in parts of the spectrogram.
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Sabine
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Germany
Standard time: UTC +1 hour