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5Watters Q8

w8diz
 

When it rains, it pours...at least it does in Florida.


Seems that Q8, an MPSH10 transistor did not make it into the parts list (has been corrected in the Docs)

Hence, it did not make it into some kits.

Q8 is part of the AGC system...not a frequency sensitive parts.


If you are missing Q8, it can be replaced with almost any NPN transistor like a 2N3904 (used in 1Watters).


I can not ship a MPSH10 transistor in an envelope, only in a box with a ship cost of almost $5

If you have an NPN transistor in your junque box for Q8 I would appreciate it.? Note the difference in BASE & EMITTER config.

If you don't, I will ship you a MPSH10.


I think this is my last kit.

-Diz


Toroid Info

 

Sometimes you only have say a yellow T37-6 vs a red T37-2. Can it be used? Yes but you have to adjust the # of turns and then you also have to judge if the new number of turns will fit on the toroid. I found the attached information very useful.


Re: Winding Toroid

 

When I enter T68-7 and 60 turns, the mini Ring Core Calculator show 18.7uH.? It also says the max wire size is 25 gage.? So, 26ga would be tight, anything smaller would be good unless too much current will be used.

Dave - WB6DHW

On 7/20/2019 12:45 PM, Shirley Dulcey KE1L wrote:
The wire size of a toroid affects its inductance and Q. Those effects
are small and the values in most circuits aren't sufficiently critical
for them to matter. The toroid cores are not precision components, and
wire winding technique also changes inductance. Stepping up or down a
size or two from the recommended one will usually work just fine so
long as the turns fit.

Wire size also affects current handling capacity. It's not likely to
matter in any QRP design, but don't use tiny wire if you build a QRO
radio or tuner!

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 3:02 PM Alan Jones <oalanjones@...> wrote:
As long as you can get the number of turns on the toroid you should be
good to go.



Alan, N8WQ

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 13:40:47 -0400, JD Hill <w9jdh.qrp@...> wrote:

I'm I have some enameled wire that is smaller than #26 .... I am guessing
probably #28 or 30.

My question is: can I use the wire I already have or do I have to obtain
the specific wire called for in the parts list?
Can


On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 11:54 AM JD Hill via Groups.Io~9jdh.qrp=
[email protected]> wrote:

How critical is the wire size when winding a toroid?.
Specifically... I have to wind a T68-7 core with 60 turns of #28 enamel





Re: 5W new videos

 

Thanks Chuck!

I was hoping you would change your mind and do a series on the new 5Watter by Diz.

I like how they match your revised build guide - 5w.pdf (v0.95)

Now I feel better about proceeding with my own 5Watter build plans.

73,

Tom - N8TPN


Re: Winding Toroid

Bob Macklin
 

I just bought 3 rolls of magnet wire on Amazon. 26, 28, and 30.

It did not cost much.

Bob Macklin
K5MYJ
Seattle, Wa.
"Real Radios Glow In The Dark"

----- Original Message -----
From: "JD Hill" <w9jdh.qrp@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 10:40 AM
Subject: [qrp-tech] Winding Toroid


I'm I have some enameled wire that is smaller than #26 .... I am guessing
probably #28 or 30.

My question is: can I use the wire I already have or do I have to obtain
the specific wire called for in the parts list?
Can


On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 11:54 AM JD Hill via Groups.Io~9jdh.qrp=
[email protected]> wrote:

How critical is the wire size when winding a toroid?.
Specifically... I have to wind a T68-7 core with 60 turns of #28 enamel





Re: Winding Toroid

 

The wire size of a toroid affects its inductance and Q. Those effects
are small and the values in most circuits aren't sufficiently critical
for them to matter. The toroid cores are not precision components, and
wire winding technique also changes inductance. Stepping up or down a
size or two from the recommended one will usually work just fine so
long as the turns fit.

Wire size also affects current handling capacity. It's not likely to
matter in any QRP design, but don't use tiny wire if you build a QRO
radio or tuner!

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 3:02 PM Alan Jones <oalanjones@...> wrote:

As long as you can get the number of turns on the toroid you should be
good to go.



Alan, N8WQ

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 13:40:47 -0400, JD Hill <w9jdh.qrp@...> wrote:

I'm I have some enameled wire that is smaller than #26 .... I am guessing
probably #28 or 30.

My question is: can I use the wire I already have or do I have to obtain
the specific wire called for in the parts list?
Can


On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 11:54 AM JD Hill via Groups.Io~9jdh.qrp=
[email protected]> wrote:

How critical is the wire size when winding a toroid?.
Specifically... I have to wind a T68-7 core with 60 turns of #28 enamel





Re: Winding Toroid

 

As long as you can get the number of turns on the toroid you should be good to go.



Alan, N8WQ

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 13:40:47 -0400, JD Hill <w9jdh.qrp@...> wrote:

I'm I have some enameled wire that is smaller than #26 .... I am guessing
probably #28 or 30.

My question is: can I use the wire I already have or do I have to obtain
the specific wire called for in the parts list?
Can


On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 11:54 AM JD Hill via Groups.Io~9jdh.qrp=
[email protected]> wrote:

How critical is the wire size when winding a toroid?.
Specifically... I have to wind a T68-7 core with 60 turns of #28 enamel




Winding Toroid

 

I'm I have some enameled wire that is smaller than #26 .... I am guessing
probably #28 or 30.

My question is: can I use the wire I already have or do I have to obtain
the specific wire called for in the parts list?
Can


On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 11:54 AM JD Hill via Groups.Io~9jdh.qrp=
[email protected]> wrote:

How critical is the wire size when winding a toroid?.
Specifically... I have to wind a T68-7 core with 60 turns of #28 enamel




Re: Winding Toroid

w8diz
 

On 7/20/19 12:57 PM, JD Hill wrote:
How critical is the wire size when winding a toroid?.
*It's not (usually)*
Specifically... I have to wind a T68-7 core with 60 turns of #28 enamel
*Just make sure you have only one layer of wire ...no overlapping wires*

*-Diz*



Winding Toroid

 

How critical is the wire size when winding a toroid?.
Specifically... I have to wind a T68-7 core with 60 turns of #28 enamel


5W new videos

 

Gang,

Last weekend I bit the bullet and ordered another 5W20 from
Diz, W8DIZ, at KitsAndParts.com for two reasons. I ordered
it during the weekend and Nancy and Diz shipped it out on
Monday and I got it Thursday.? Started Friday (yesterday)
building and doing the videos.

The first was to build a stock kit and not a 5W that I had
the board made at JLCPCB and used parts from my own stock.

Secondly, I thought I had better build a board and at the
same time do a series of videos showing the test points
in the manual at and to also
force me to double check for typos and maybe find a better
way to do some stuff.

Thirdly, to do an experiment, which I will reveal later
this upcoming week, if it works out.

Yes, I went from two to three to see if you are paying
attention.? :-)

First of the videos is at
and I have done 3 and going to the lab to do #4.

FYI

chuck, k7qo, flying pig video productions


Re: 'Alfa-Bravo-Charlie' = Old? Obsolete?

 

Doug,

You are right, but I just came in from the lab and
this thread is hereby terminated.

Everyone that posts the continuation of this silly
thread will be moderated for a year.? This will
significantly slow down the offending individuals
posts if not terminate them.

Back to technical subjects please.

chuck, k7qo, grumpy moderator

On 7/19/19 3:59 PM, Doug Hendricks wrote:
You can always tell when Chuck is busy.


Re: 'Alfa-Bravo-Charlie' = Old? Obsolete?

 

On 2019-07-19 3:29 p.m., Ronald McConnell wrote:
...(snip)...
The English Alphabet
In Alphabetic Order
Aitch
Are
Ay
Bee
Cue
Dee
Double-You
Ee
Ef
El
Em
En
Ess
Ex
Eye
Gee
Jay
...(snip)...


Depends upon where (and to some extent who) you are. I've heard the name of the eighth letter of the alphabet pronounced "Haitch". For those who pronounce it that way, instead of as "Aitch", it moves from the beginning of the list down to between "Gee" and "Jay".

See <>.

More seriously, for those who use 'phone and have trouble getting others to understand their phonetics, how about saying the letters in Morse code: DitDah, DahDiDiDit, DahDiDahDit, DahDiDit, ... ? You can do the numbers in your call that way too. If the other person knows Morse code that solves the problem of not recognizing the words Alfa, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, ... .

David VE7EZM and AF7BZ but I won't sound them out that way here


Re: 'Alfa-Bravo-Charlie' = Old? Obsolete?

Doug Hendricks
 

You can always tell when Chuck is busy.


Re: 'Alfa-Bravo-Charlie' = Old? Obsolete?

 

There has been, still is, some good discussion
about phonetic alphabets on the groups.

Please forgive me when I can't resist posting
the following lists.

The English Alphabet
In Alphabetic Order
Aitch
Are
Ay
Bee
Cue
Dee
Double-You
Ee
Ef
El
Em
En
Ess
Ex
Eye
Gee
Jay
Kay
Oh
Pea
See
Tee
Vee
Wy
You
Zee

English numbers
In Alphabetic Order:
Eight
Five
Four
Nine
One
Seven
Six
Three
Two
Zero

Back to the more informative discussion.

73,
Ron McConnell
w2iol


Re: [QRP-L] 'Alfa-Bravo-Charlie' = Old? Obsolete?

 

I've operated from K1 Zulu Xerox before.

Also my good friend Trey was WN4 Knickerbocker Knickerbocker Nicaragua.

Yes, both CW fans.

73 de Lee, AA4GA


Re: 'Alfa-Bravo-Charlie' = Old? Obsolete?

 

They drilled this phonetic stuff into us at the nuke plant.

"What safety channel are you talking about?"
"Bravo!"
"Aw shucks, it was nothing."

73--

Nick, WA5BDU

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:00 AM k6whp <k6whp@...> wrote:

Recommend going with:

A = Aisle
B = Bdellium
C = Czar
D = Djibouti
E = Euphrates
F = Fjord
G = Gnome
H = Herb
I = Isle
J = Jalapeno
K = Knee
L = Lladro
M = Mnemonic
N = Ngabu
O = Ouija Board
P = Pneumonia
Q = Qatar
R = Rwanda
S = Sphygmomanometer
T = Tsunami
U = Uvula
V = Vraisemblance
W = Wrinkle
X = Xylophone
Y = Ypsilanti
Z = Zlotys

..should clear thing sup.
--
William, K6WHP
"Cheer up, things could get worse..so I cheered up and, sure enough,
things got worse!"




Re: 'Alfa-Bravo-Charlie' = Old? Obsolete?

 

Mighty clever! Had we used this jpg table in WW2
the eavesdropping German Abwehr would have struggled :-)

Michael 2E0IHW

On 19/07/2019 14:43, Henrik Stenstrom wrote:
Simply for your lighthearted amusement ...



de VK2HHS
On 19 Jul 2019, at 17:07, blumu via Groups.Io <blumu@...> wrote:

On our SSB medical network in Africa, some colleagues would not
use "Whiskey" - for abstinence reasons! The NATO alphabet is the
still most used and least confusing once learnt. It is also used in
business on the phone to confirm names, postcodes, order codes etc.
Some changes might well improve intelligibility in the new global
world, but less standardisation would create more confusion.

Learn it and leave it!

Michael 2E0IHW
.........................
Not so long ago I copied a a U,S. ham in a DX contest trying to complete a QSO with a European ham.
...
The U.S ham made several attempts and changed the alphabet each time. The DX finally gave up.
...
Our phonetic alphabet evolved over a number of decades out of necessity with high stakes and proved to be the most reliable. So it stands today. Anything else is just so much gibberish.
73,
Bill KU8H
---
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Re: 'Alfa-Bravo-Charlie' = Old? Obsolete?

k6whp
 

Recommend going with:

A = Aisle
B = Bdellium
C = Czar
D = Djibouti
E = Euphrates
F = Fjord
G = Gnome
H = Herb
I = Isle
J = Jalapeno
K = Knee
L = Lladro
M = Mnemonic
N = Ngabu
O = Ouija Board
P = Pneumonia
Q = Qatar
R = Rwanda
S = Sphygmomanometer
T = Tsunami
U = Uvula
V = Vraisemblance
W = Wrinkle
X = Xylophone
Y = Ypsilanti
Z = Zlotys

..should clear thing sup.
--
William, K6WHP
"Cheer up, things could get worse..so I cheered up and, sure enough, things got worse!"


Re: 'Alfa-Bravo-Charlie' = Old? Obsolete?

Henrik Stenstrom
 

Simply for your lighthearted amusement ...



de VK2HHS

On 19 Jul 2019, at 17:07, blumu via Groups.Io <blumu@...> wrote:

On our SSB medical network in Africa, some colleagues would not
use "Whiskey" - for abstinence reasons! The NATO alphabet is the
still most used and least confusing once learnt. It is also used in
business on the phone to confirm names, postcodes, order codes etc.
Some changes might well improve intelligibility in the new global
world, but less standardisation would create more confusion.

Learn it and leave it!

Michael 2E0IHW
.........................
Not so long ago I copied a a U,S. ham in a DX contest trying to complete a QSO with a European ham.
...
The U.S ham made several attempts and changed the alphabet each time. The DX finally gave up.
...
Our phonetic alphabet evolved over a number of decades out of necessity with high stakes and proved to be the most reliable. So it stands today. Anything else is just so much gibberish.
73,
Bill KU8H
---
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