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Re: Ramsey HR-1

 

Hi Charlie

I have one, let me dig out the info on it,
will post tomorrow

Al ve3gam

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Subject: [qrp-tech] Ramsey HR-1

Does anyone have information on this unit? A schematic, parts list, etc?
Charlie, H3UIM


Ramsey HR-1

 

Does anyone have information on this unit? A schematic, parts list, etc?
Charlie, H3UIM


2N2-40+ QRP-Transceiver, troubleshooting

 

Hi,

i'm currently building a 2N2/40+.

Here I use the circuit diagrams "2N240+AA-DA.SCH; 02012002" from the page "
As layout I use the K3PEG template Verson 4, April 27, 2005

So far I have finished the layout segments:

9: Audio Amp, RX Mute, Audio Preamp,
8: Rx Local Oscillator
3: IF Amp +40dB, Variable Xtal Filter, Mixer Amp +9dB
2: RX Input Filter, RF Amp +12dB, DB Mixer
4: Varactor Tuned, Buffered VFO

Now the receiver should be checked.

However, there seem to be some bugs that I have to find and fix bit by bit. Since I'm not good at troubleshooting, I present the problems I noticed here.

I want to start with the VFO, which doesn't provide enough output voltage from my point of view.

First the DC voltages from the circuit diagram were checked. Here are the measured values:

Q1: B=4.34, C=6.90, E=3.76
Q2: B=4.02, C=13.84, E=3.40
Q3: B=3.40, C=13.48, E=2.75

D5: K=6.90
D6: A=0.69

Some pictures of the signals are stored in the album "DL2KI 2N2/40+":

pic01: C9/C13
pic02: Q1 B
pic03: Q1 E
pic04: Q2 B
pic05: Q2 E
pic06: Q3 B = Q2 E
pic07: Q3 C

Maybe someone can have a look at the pictures and give a hint for further troubleshooting.
If additional measured values are required, please send me an info.

Many thanks in advance and i hope my translator works well ;-)

73, Wolfgang
DL2KI


Re: Homebrew receiver - Heard a net on the wrong band

ajparent1/kb1gmx
 

The ubitx filter are low pass design. The Ubitx has NO band pass filters.
The Bitx40 current has a filter that has a peaked low pass. The really old
versions of the bitx20 had a true band pass.

if your VFO is in the 5Mhz range you will see 9mhz IF +vfo and 9MHZ if - VFO
there is no mystery as hams have use that trick for year to get dual band
radios.

So first you bandpass filter is very poor is you can hear 80M at all!
Second Your BFO is likely not set right and 20M (nomally USB) the
product detection is suffering and since 80M is nominally LSB if it
sounds better fix the BFO.

FYI harmonics of SSB signals are unintelligible, always.
You are getting an IMAGE response due to poor input filters.

Allison
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Re: Homebrew receiver - Heard a net on the wrong band

 

Hi Mark,

That is what I thought, too. I am using low pass filters (per band) external to my uBitX to deal with the poor spectral performance (I have the version 3). I expect to go to bandpass filters just to promote even better spectral performance. using external filters is a legacy approach and I use external filters with all of my transmitters and by the way they, are inline on receiver too.

73,

Bill KU8H

On 7/3/19 10:45 AM, Mark G?NMY wrote:
I always thought the uBitx filter was a lowpass filter not a bandpass
filter I could be wrong though.
I would suggest QRP-Labs bandpass filter kits very cheap

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On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 15:35, Richard Seguin <richard.seguin@...>
wrote:

Thank you for all of the replies. This makes perfect sense now.
I'll design a better bandpass filter (maybe just one band instead of
all of them).

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:02 AM John Marshall KU4AF
<johnmars@...> wrote:

Richard,

It's an image rather than a harmonic. Harmonics are integral multiples
of a frequency so 3725, 7450, 11175, 14900, etc.

When your receiver is tuned to 14265, the Si5351 local oscillator runs
at 5265 kHz. That frequency is subtracted from 14265 in the mixer to give
9000 kHz ( 14265 - 5265 = 9000 ). If a 3725 kHz signal is present at the
mixer input, it will mix with the 5625 kHz local oscillator to give output
at 9000 ( 3725 + 5265 = 9000 ).

This is a classic issue with superheterodyne receivers. The mixer can't
discriminate between those two input frequencies so it's up to the tuned
circuit(s) between the antenna and the mixer to select the one you want and
suppress the other. You may be able to work around the problem by choosing
a different local oscillator frequency. For example, you could set the
Si5351 to 23265 kHz ( 23265 - 14265 = 9000 ). That moves the image
frequency to 32265 kHz, which may be easier to suppress and will likely be
free of interfering signals, too.

73,
John, KU4AF
Pittsboro, NC


On Jul 3, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Richard Seguin <richard.seguin@...>
wrote:

Certainly,

* Superheterodyne design with diode ring mixers
* IF is 9 Mhz
* LO is produced by a Si5351 (square wave LO)

Block diagram:

ANT -> Ubitx bandpass -> RF amplifier -> DBM -> Crystal filter (4
pole) -> IF amplifier -> DBM -> Near unity gain amplifier (for proper
termination of the mixer) -> Audio amplifier -> Headphones

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:14 AM Michael Maiorana <zfreak@...>
wrote:

Can you give us more info about your receiver?

Mike M.
KU4QO

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:03 AM Richard Seguin <
richard.seguin@...>
wrote:

Good morning,

I have a weird issue that I would like to ask you folks about.
Yesterday, I heard a net that I thought was on 14265 khz. I reached
out to one of the operators because I thought that it was weird that
the particular net wasn't at its usual frequency on 80 meters. It
turns out, I was actually listening to a harmonic and that the net
was on 3735khz. Here is the weird part, it sounded better on 20
meters than 80... I confirmed with a signal generator that the area
that I was tuned is an actual harmonic.

Have any of you homebrewers run into this issue?

Richard (VE1XOR)




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Re: Homebrew receiver - Heard a net on the wrong band

Mark G?NMY
 

I always thought the uBitx filter was a lowpass filter not a bandpass
filter I could be wrong though.

I would suggest QRP-Labs bandpass filter kits very cheap













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On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 15:35, Richard Seguin <richard.seguin@...>
wrote:

Thank you for all of the replies. This makes perfect sense now.
I'll design a better bandpass filter (maybe just one band instead of
all of them).

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:02 AM John Marshall KU4AF
<johnmars@...> wrote:

Richard,

It's an image rather than a harmonic. Harmonics are integral multiples
of a frequency so 3725, 7450, 11175, 14900, etc.

When your receiver is tuned to 14265, the Si5351 local oscillator runs
at 5265 kHz. That frequency is subtracted from 14265 in the mixer to give
9000 kHz ( 14265 - 5265 = 9000 ). If a 3725 kHz signal is present at the
mixer input, it will mix with the 5625 kHz local oscillator to give output
at 9000 ( 3725 + 5265 = 9000 ).

This is a classic issue with superheterodyne receivers. The mixer can't
discriminate between those two input frequencies so it's up to the tuned
circuit(s) between the antenna and the mixer to select the one you want and
suppress the other. You may be able to work around the problem by choosing
a different local oscillator frequency. For example, you could set the
Si5351 to 23265 kHz ( 23265 - 14265 = 9000 ). That moves the image
frequency to 32265 kHz, which may be easier to suppress and will likely be
free of interfering signals, too.

73,
John, KU4AF
Pittsboro, NC


On Jul 3, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Richard Seguin <richard.seguin@...>
wrote:

Certainly,

* Superheterodyne design with diode ring mixers
* IF is 9 Mhz
* LO is produced by a Si5351 (square wave LO)

Block diagram:

ANT -> Ubitx bandpass -> RF amplifier -> DBM -> Crystal filter (4
pole) -> IF amplifier -> DBM -> Near unity gain amplifier (for proper
termination of the mixer) -> Audio amplifier -> Headphones

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:14 AM Michael Maiorana <zfreak@...>
wrote:

Can you give us more info about your receiver?

Mike M.
KU4QO

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:03 AM Richard Seguin <
richard.seguin@...>
wrote:

Good morning,

I have a weird issue that I would like to ask you folks about.
Yesterday, I heard a net that I thought was on 14265 khz. I reached
out to one of the operators because I thought that it was weird that
the particular net wasn't at its usual frequency on 80 meters. It
turns out, I was actually listening to a harmonic and that the net
was on 3735khz. Here is the weird part, it sounded better on 20
meters than 80... I confirmed with a signal generator that the area
that I was tuned is an actual harmonic.

Have any of you homebrewers run into this issue?

Richard (VE1XOR)





Re: Homebrew receiver - Heard a net on the wrong band

Richard Seguin
 

Thank you for all of the replies. This makes perfect sense now.
I'll design a better bandpass filter (maybe just one band instead of
all of them).

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:02 AM John Marshall KU4AF
<johnmars@...> wrote:

Richard,

It's an image rather than a harmonic. Harmonics are integral multiples of a frequency so 3725, 7450, 11175, 14900, etc.

When your receiver is tuned to 14265, the Si5351 local oscillator runs at 5265 kHz. That frequency is subtracted from 14265 in the mixer to give 9000 kHz ( 14265 - 5265 = 9000 ). If a 3725 kHz signal is present at the mixer input, it will mix with the 5625 kHz local oscillator to give output at 9000 ( 3725 + 5265 = 9000 ).

This is a classic issue with superheterodyne receivers. The mixer can't discriminate between those two input frequencies so it's up to the tuned circuit(s) between the antenna and the mixer to select the one you want and suppress the other. You may be able to work around the problem by choosing a different local oscillator frequency. For example, you could set the Si5351 to 23265 kHz ( 23265 - 14265 = 9000 ). That moves the image frequency to 32265 kHz, which may be easier to suppress and will likely be free of interfering signals, too.

73,
John, KU4AF
Pittsboro, NC


On Jul 3, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Richard Seguin <richard.seguin@...> wrote:

Certainly,

* Superheterodyne design with diode ring mixers
* IF is 9 Mhz
* LO is produced by a Si5351 (square wave LO)

Block diagram:

ANT -> Ubitx bandpass -> RF amplifier -> DBM -> Crystal filter (4
pole) -> IF amplifier -> DBM -> Near unity gain amplifier (for proper
termination of the mixer) -> Audio amplifier -> Headphones

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:14 AM Michael Maiorana <zfreak@...> wrote:

Can you give us more info about your receiver?

Mike M.
KU4QO

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:03 AM Richard Seguin <richard.seguin@...>
wrote:

Good morning,

I have a weird issue that I would like to ask you folks about.
Yesterday, I heard a net that I thought was on 14265 khz. I reached
out to one of the operators because I thought that it was weird that
the particular net wasn't at its usual frequency on 80 meters. It
turns out, I was actually listening to a harmonic and that the net
was on 3735khz. Here is the weird part, it sounded better on 20
meters than 80... I confirmed with a signal generator that the area
that I was tuned is an actual harmonic.

Have any of you homebrewers run into this issue?

Richard (VE1XOR)



Re: Homebrew receiver - Heard a net on the wrong band

 

So, the problem must be the?? Ubitx bandpass filter is not right, or not a very good bandpass filter.

73,
Gary
WB6OGD

On 7/3/2019 7:02 AM, John Marshall KU4AF wrote:
Ubitx bandpass


Re: Homebrew receiver - Heard a net on the wrong band

 

Richard,

It's an image rather than a harmonic. Harmonics are integral multiples of a frequency so 3725, 7450, 11175, 14900, etc.

When your receiver is tuned to 14265, the Si5351 local oscillator runs at 5265 kHz. That frequency is subtracted from 14265 in the mixer to give 9000 kHz ( 14265 - 5265 = 9000 ). If a 3725 kHz signal is present at the mixer input, it will mix with the 5625 kHz local oscillator to give output at 9000 ( 3725 + 5265 = 9000 ).

This is a classic issue with superheterodyne receivers. The mixer can't discriminate between those two input frequencies so it's up to the tuned circuit(s) between the antenna and the mixer to select the one you want and suppress the other. You may be able to work around the problem by choosing a different local oscillator frequency. For example, you could set the Si5351 to 23265 kHz ( 23265 - 14265 = 9000 ). That moves the image frequency to 32265 kHz, which may be easier to suppress and will likely be free of interfering signals, too.

73,
John, KU4AF
Pittsboro, NC

On Jul 3, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Richard Seguin <richard.seguin@...> wrote:

Certainly,

* Superheterodyne design with diode ring mixers
* IF is 9 Mhz
* LO is produced by a Si5351 (square wave LO)

Block diagram:

ANT -> Ubitx bandpass -> RF amplifier -> DBM -> Crystal filter (4
pole) -> IF amplifier -> DBM -> Near unity gain amplifier (for proper
termination of the mixer) -> Audio amplifier -> Headphones

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:14 AM Michael Maiorana <zfreak@...> wrote:

Can you give us more info about your receiver?

Mike M.
KU4QO

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:03 AM Richard Seguin <richard.seguin@...>
wrote:

Good morning,

I have a weird issue that I would like to ask you folks about.
Yesterday, I heard a net that I thought was on 14265 khz. I reached
out to one of the operators because I thought that it was weird that
the particular net wasn't at its usual frequency on 80 meters. It
turns out, I was actually listening to a harmonic and that the net
was on 3735khz. Here is the weird part, it sounded better on 20
meters than 80... I confirmed with a signal generator that the area
that I was tuned is an actual harmonic.

Have any of you homebrewers run into this issue?

Richard (VE1XOR)


Re: Homebrew receiver - Heard a net on the wrong band

Scott McDonald
 

Hi Richard.

As I expect you¡¯ll hear from many folks, you are hearing the sum and difference of 9 MHz and your 5.265 vfo.

If there isn¡¯t a tuned circuit in your RF amp, the uBITX front end will do a good job of excluding non 0 to 30 MHz signals but won¡¯t offer any selectivity to select between the sum and difference frequencies, ie 80 and 20 meters. A tuned circuit will fix that.

You¡¯ve rediscovered the magic that drove the use of 9 MHz filters and 5 MHz vfos many years ago.

Why it sounds better one way than the other is anybody¡¯s guess but it may well sound different with some front end selectivity.

73 Scott Ka9p

On Jul 3, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Richard Seguin <richard.seguin@...> wrote:

Certainly,

* Superheterodyne design with diode ring mixers
* IF is 9 Mhz
* LO is produced by a Si5351 (square wave LO)

Block diagram:

ANT -> Ubitx bandpass -> RF amplifier -> DBM -> Crystal filter (4
pole) -> IF amplifier -> DBM -> Near unity gain amplifier (for proper
termination of the mixer) -> Audio amplifier -> Headphones

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:14 AM Michael Maiorana <zfreak@...> wrote:

Can you give us more info about your receiver?

Mike M.
KU4QO

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:03 AM Richard Seguin <richard.seguin@...>
wrote:

Good morning,

I have a weird issue that I would like to ask you folks about.
Yesterday, I heard a net that I thought was on 14265 khz. I reached
out to one of the operators because I thought that it was weird that
the particular net wasn't at its usual frequency on 80 meters. It
turns out, I was actually listening to a harmonic and that the net
was on 3735khz. Here is the weird part, it sounded better on 20
meters than 80... I confirmed with a signal generator that the area
that I was tuned is an actual harmonic.

Have any of you homebrewers run into this issue?

Richard (VE1XOR)






Re: Homebrew receiver - Heard a net on the wrong band

Richard Seguin
 

Certainly,

* Superheterodyne design with diode ring mixers
* IF is 9 Mhz
* LO is produced by a Si5351 (square wave LO)

Block diagram:

ANT -> Ubitx bandpass -> RF amplifier -> DBM -> Crystal filter (4
pole) -> IF amplifier -> DBM -> Near unity gain amplifier (for proper
termination of the mixer) -> Audio amplifier -> Headphones

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:14 AM Michael Maiorana <zfreak@...> wrote:

Can you give us more info about your receiver?

Mike M.
KU4QO

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:03 AM Richard Seguin <richard.seguin@...>
wrote:

Good morning,

I have a weird issue that I would like to ask you folks about.
Yesterday, I heard a net that I thought was on 14265 khz. I reached
out to one of the operators because I thought that it was weird that
the particular net wasn't at its usual frequency on 80 meters. It
turns out, I was actually listening to a harmonic and that the net
was on 3735khz. Here is the weird part, it sounded better on 20
meters than 80... I confirmed with a signal generator that the area
that I was tuned is an actual harmonic.

Have any of you homebrewers run into this issue?

Richard (VE1XOR)





Re: Homebrew receiver - Heard a net on the wrong band

 

Can you give us more info about your receiver?

Mike M.
KU4QO

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:03 AM Richard Seguin <richard.seguin@...>
wrote:

Good morning,

I have a weird issue that I would like to ask you folks about.
Yesterday, I heard a net that I thought was on 14265 khz. I reached
out to one of the operators because I thought that it was weird that
the particular net wasn't at its usual frequency on 80 meters. It
turns out, I was actually listening to a harmonic and that the net
was on 3735khz. Here is the weird part, it sounded better on 20
meters than 80... I confirmed with a signal generator that the area
that I was tuned is an actual harmonic.

Have any of you homebrewers run into this issue?

Richard (VE1XOR)




Homebrew receiver - Heard a net on the wrong band

Richard Seguin
 

Good morning,

I have a weird issue that I would like to ask you folks about.
Yesterday, I heard a net that I thought was on 14265 khz. I reached
out to one of the operators because I thought that it was weird that
the particular net wasn't at its usual frequency on 80 meters. It
turns out, I was actually listening to a harmonic and that the net
was on 3735khz. Here is the weird part, it sounded better on 20
meters than 80... I confirmed with a signal generator that the area
that I was tuned is an actual harmonic.

Have any of you homebrewers run into this issue?

Richard (VE1XOR)


Re: Kanga LCK transceiver kit

Mark G?NMY
 

find attached sprat60 with LCK info
72 g0nmy







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On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 at 15:22, Neil Goldstein <neilgoldstein@...> wrote:

The LCK was a G-QRP project published in Sprat, their newsletter. I found
it listed on an archived page of the Kanga-USA site, but no instructions or
anything. I would contact the G-QRP folks and ask if anyone has
documentation. Let us know how it goes. Looks like an interesting project.
The owner of Kanga-USA has shut down for health reasons but you might also
try there.

Sent from my VIC20 - Neil Goldstein
Radiokitguide.com




Re: Kanga LCK transceiver kit

 

Here are the manuals that I have. I hope that helps.
Mike M.
KU4QO


On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:08 AM Claude-Alain Baumgartner via Groups.Io
<cab0310@...> wrote:

Hi all,

A friend of mine just gave me a Kanga L.C.K. CW transceiver kit.
Unfortunately the box does not contain any instructions.
I searched the internet and found nothing on this kit.
I would be very happy If someone could send me a copy of the manual, or at
least of the schematic diagram.

Thank you very much in advance,

Claude, HB9CGL




Re: Kanga LCK transceiver kit

 

This makes it difficult for us to experiment with radio kits.
Communication with project website.
Visit:


Oliveira PY2-255SWL
Call Sign PU2OLT
RX Morphy Richards 27024
RX/TX YAESU FT817D
RX/TX YAESU FT897D
Blog:



Em ter, 2 de jul de 2019 ¨¤s 11:22, Neil Goldstein <neilgoldstein@...>
escreveu:

The LCK was a G-QRP project published in Sprat, their newsletter. I found
it listed on an archived page of the Kanga-USA site, but no instructions or
anything. I would contact the G-QRP folks and ask if anyone has
documentation. Let us know how it goes. Looks like an interesting project.
The owner of Kanga-USA has shut down for health reasons but you might also
try there.

Sent from my VIC20 - Neil Goldstein
Radiokitguide.com




Re: Kanga LCK transceiver kit

 

The LCK was a G-QRP project published in Sprat, their newsletter. I found
it listed on an archived page of the Kanga-USA site, but no instructions or
anything. I would contact the G-QRP folks and ask if anyone has
documentation. Let us know how it goes. Looks like an interesting project.
The owner of Kanga-USA has shut down for health reasons but you might also
try there.

Sent from my VIC20 - Neil Goldstein
Radiokitguide.com


Re: Kanga LCK transceiver kit

 

Hello Curt,
Thank you for the answer.I found the description of the LCK transceiver in SPRAT Nr 60, thanks to the help of some members of the GQRP club.
All the best, 73's
Claude, HB9CGL


Re: Kanga LCK transceiver kit

 

I would try contacting Kanga Products:


Re: Kanga LCK transceiver kit

 

Well some very obscure early qrp kits on this side of the Atlantic also.

Try a list with a lot of UK participation, maybe the one for qrp labs.

ID the semiconductors to see what is there for starts. Ditto for inductors.

Curt