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Dear paclink-unix group,
I? turn to this forum since I haven't managed to find anyone else that could help.
A couple of days ago, I successfully set up paclink-unix on my laptop running ubuntu 16.04.
I edited the wl2k.con-file to include my signal SA0BXI, and then successfully made? my first connection ever to a winlink CMSserver to get a winlink account, sa0bxi@..., strictly following the 6-item instruction at .
?I got an email with a personal password back, which I used to login at . There I filledl in my adress details and changed the personal? password according the instructions and saved my account record page.
So far so good.
I then assumed (seemingly incorrectly) that, when reconnecting to send a test email,? I should include my personal password in the wl2k.conf file. I did so, but did then get the following response::
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bjorn@bpX260:~$ sudo wl2ktelnet
[sudo] password for bjorn:
Connecting to 8772 ...
Connected.
Callsign : SA0BXI
Password :
wl2ktelnet: --
wl2ktelnet: <*** Password does not match - Disconnecting
(83.209.237.94)
wl2ktelnet: Lost connection. 1
bjorn@bpX260:~$
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After several retries and finally a question to winlink supprt, they told me that the password in wl2k.conf should always be CMSTELNET to be able to connect to th CMSserver. So I exchanged my personal password for CMSTELNET, tried again and got the following response:
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bjorn@bpX260:~$ sudo wl2ktelnet
[sudo] password for bjorn:
Connecting to server.winlink.org 8772 ...
Connected.
Callsign : SA0BXI
Password :
wl2ktelnet: ---
wl2ktelnet: <[WL2K-3.2-B2FWIHJM$]
wl2ktelnet: sid [WL2K-3.2-B2FWIHJM$] inboundsidcodes -B2FWIHJM$
wl2ktelnet: <;PQ: 01708723
wl2ktelnet: <SanDiego CMS >
wl2ktelnet: >; WL2K DE SA0BXI QTC 0
wl2ktelnet: >[PaclinkUNIX-0.5-B2FIHM$]
wl2ktelnet: >FF
wl2ktelnet: <*** [2] Secure login failed - no response to challenge - Disconnecting (83.209.237.94)
wl2ktelnet: unrecognized command (len 86): /*** [2] Secure login failed - no response to challenge - Disconnecting (83.209.237.94)/
bjorn@bpX260:~$
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I assume this is due to the fact that I have not provide my personal password anywhere. I have spent a lot of time trying to understand where to put t in but failed.
This is now my question: How and where in the process of sending an email should I provide my personal password?? Or is that the worng question? What I really want of course is to successfully send an email and getone back, just to verify that the system works.anks
Could anyone explain to a paclink-unix and winlink newbie?
Thanks
/Bjorn
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I turn to this forum since I haven't managed to find anyone else
that could help. For a telnet session ie. when using wl2ktelnet, paclink-unix uses the default password CMSTelnet. You do not need to set it in wl2k.conf. It is in the "Telnet section" of wl2k.conf as "password=CMSTelnet" but commented out. In the "Common section" of wl2k.conf you need to set "wl2k-password=" to the password that you reset on the Winlink website. After you change your password it takes several minutes for Winlink to propagate it out to the servers. Also it looks like you installed paclink-unix from the tar ball which does NOT contain the Winlink secure login code. You need to use the latest code to be able to login to Winlink. Get the current tree either using cvs like this: cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@...:/cvsroot/paclink-unix login (just hit enter for the password) cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@...:/cvsroot/paclink-unix co -P paclink-unix or get it from github like this: git clone There are notes on installing paclink-unix here: /Basil n7nix wl2ktelnet: <*** [2] Secure login failed - no response to challenge -
Disconnecting (83.209.237.94)
wl2ktelnet: unrecognized command (len 86): /*** [2] Secure login failed - no response to challenge -
Disconnecting (83.209.237.94)
I assume this is due to the fact that I have not provide my personal
password anywhere. I have spent a lot of time trying to understand
where to put t in but failed. This is now my question: How and where
in the process of sending an email should I provide my personal
password?
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Aaah, thanks a lot.
Is the fact that the line "wl2k-password" was not in my in wl2k.conf-template due to the fact that I actually did install from the tar-ball?
So, I have to reinstall everything then...
Thanks for the bad news :-) at least I know the way forward.
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On 2017-02-08 17:51, Basil Gunn wrote: I turn to this forum since I haven't managed to find anyone else
that could help. For a telnet session ie. when using wl2ktelnet, paclink-unix uses the
default password CMSTelnet. You do not need to set it in wl2k.conf. It
is in the "Telnet section" of wl2k.conf as "password=CMSTelnet" but
commented out.
In the "Common section" of wl2k.conf you need to set "wl2k-password="
to the password that you reset on the Winlink website.
After you change your password it takes several minutes for Winlink to
propagate it out to the servers.
Also it looks like you installed paclink-unix from the tar ball which
does NOT contain the Winlink secure login code. You need to use the
latest code to be able to login to Winlink.
Get the current tree either using cvs like this:
cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@...:/cvsroot/paclink-unix login
(just hit enter for the password)
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@...:/cvsroot/paclink-unix co -P paclink-unix
or get it from github like this:
git clone
There are notes on installing paclink-unix here:
/Basil n7nix
wl2ktelnet: <*** [2] Secure login failed - no response to challenge -
Disconnecting (83.209.237.94)
wl2ktelnet: unrecognized command (len 86): /*** [2] Secure login failed - no response to challenge -
Disconnecting (83.209.237.94)
I assume this is due to the fact that I have not provide my personal
password anywhere. I have spent a lot of time trying to understand
where to put t in but failed. This is now my question: How and where
in the process of sending an email should I provide my personal
password?
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Is the fact that the line "wl2k-password" was not in my in
wl2k.conf-template due to the fact that I actually did install from
the tar-ball? Yes that is true. Sorry Bjorn, it is unfortunate that when starting out with paclink-unix the easiest thing is to get the tar ball from the SourceForge site that contains an older version of the code that will NOT work with the current Winlink system. I am moving paclink-unix over to github and started work on making a Debian package to make it much easier to install ... at least on Debian based systems like Ubuntu or Raspbian. There is already a current repository there. Installing paclink-unix will get easier ... some time soon. /Basil n7nix
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Well, not your fault. I really appreciate your contribution and
support. I just cloned from github.
Thanks
Bjorn
On 2017-02-08 18:33, Basil Gunn
basil@... [paclink-unix] wrote:
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> Is the fact that the line "wl2k-password" was not in
my in
> wl2k.conf-template due to the fact that I actually
did install from
> the tar-ball?
Yes that is true.
Sorry Bjorn, it is unfortunate that when starting out with
paclink-unix the easiest thing is to get the tar ball from
the
SourceForge site that contains an older version of the
code that will
NOT work with the current Winlink system.
I am moving paclink-unix over to github and started work
on making a
Debian package to make it much easier to install ... at
least on
Debian based systems like Ubuntu or Raspbian. There is
already a
current repository there.
Installing paclink-unix will get easier ... some time
soon.
/Basil n7nix
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Hi Basil,
I tried installing the github version and followed the
instruction you pointed at (bazaudi.com) carefully.
I believe that I got everything right.
Nevertheless, I could not quite complete the
autogen.sh/automake/configure cycle. This is what I keep getting:
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bjorn@bpX260:~/paclink-unix$ automake --add-missing
Makefile.am: error: required file './README' not found
bjorn@bpX260:~/paclink-unix$
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There is a non-executable file README.md in the directory, is
that the one?
Bjorn
On 2017-02-08 18:45, Bjorn Pehrson
bjorn@... [paclink-unix] wrote:
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Well, not your fault. I really appreciate your
contribution and support. I just cloned from github.
Thanks
Bjorn
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Thanks Bjorn, this is an error I have to fix. For now: cp README.md to README github uses markdown to render the README at the website and requires a README.md file but the autoconf tools require a README file with no extension. Not sure about the bounce from yahoogroups.com. Will test with this e-mail from my SMTP server. /Basil On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:04:30 +0100 Bjorn Pehrson <bjorn@...> wrote: Hi Basil,
This message bounced for some reason.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [paclink-unix] trouble logging in to winlink
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 23:39:41 +0100
From: Bjorn Pehrson <bjorn@...>
To: paclink-unix@...
Hi Basil,
I tried installing the github version and followed the instruction
you pointed at (bazaudi.com) carefully.
I believe that I got everything right.
Nevertheless, I could not quite complete the
autogen.sh/automake/configure cycle. This is what I keep getting:
------------
bjorn@bpX260:~/paclink-unix$ automake --add-missing
Makefile.am: error: required file './README' not found
bjorn@bpX260:~/paclink-unix$
-----------
There is a non-executable file README.md in the directory, is that
the one?
Bjorn
On 2017-02-08 18:45, Bjorn Pehrson bjorn@... [paclink-unix]
wrote:
Well, not your fault. I really appreciate your contribution and
support. I just cloned from github.
Thanks
Bjorn
.
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On 2017-02-09 00:29, Basil Gunn wrote: Thanks Bjorn, this is an error I have to fix.
For now:
cp README.md to README Yes, that made the trick. Thanks. Will have to sleep a bit before finalizing but it seems promising. github uses markdown to render the README at the website and requires
a README.md file but the autoconf tools require a README file with no
extension.
Not sure about the bounce from yahoogroups.com. Will test with this
e-mail from my SMTP server. I read the bounce more carefully and find that it was a delay warning. I will forward it separately. Bjorn
/Basil
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:04:30 +0100
Bjorn Pehrson <bjorn@...> wrote:
Hi Basil,
This message bounced for some reason.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [paclink-unix] trouble logging in to winlink
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 23:39:41 +0100
From: Bjorn Pehrson <bjorn@...>
To: paclink-unix@...
Hi Basil,
I tried installing the github version and followed the instruction
you pointed at (bazaudi.com) carefully.
I believe that I got everything right.
Nevertheless, I could not quite complete the
autogen.sh/automake/configure cycle. This is what I keep getting:
------------
bjorn@bpX260:~/paclink-unix$ automake --add-missing
Makefile.am: error: required file './README' not found
bjorn@bpX260:~/paclink-unix$
-----------
There is a non-executable file README.md in the directory, is that
the one?
Bjorn
On 2017-02-08 18:45, Bjorn Pehrson bjorn@... [paclink-unix]
wrote:
Well, not your fault. I really appreciate your contribution and
support. I just cloned from github.
Thanks
Bjorn
.
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I believe that my installation succeed ut I am not sure how to test.
I can login to a CMSserver and get emails at least from winlink.org downloaded but I am not sure that I can send emails yet. How can I check?
This is a typical connection without any emails involved.
bjorn@bpX260:~$ sudo wl2ktelnet
[sudo] password for bjorn:
Connecting to server.winlink.org 8772 ...
Connected.
Callsign : SA0BXI
Password :
wl2ktelnet: ---
wl2ktelnet: <[WL2K-3.2-B2FWIHJM$]
wl2ktelnet: sid [WL2K-3.2-B2FWIHJM$] inboundsidcodes -B2FWIHJM$
wl2ktelnet: <;PQ: 78779794
wl2ktelnet: Challenge received: 78779794
wl2ktelnet: <Wien CMS >
wl2ktelnet: >[UnixLINK-0.5-B2FIHM$]
wl2ktelnet: >;PR: 28711470
wl2ktelnet: >; WL2K DE SA0BXI QTC 0
wl2ktelnet: >FF
wl2ktelnet: <FQ
bjorn@bpX260:~$
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On 2017-02-09 00:43, Bjorn Pehrson bjorn@... [paclink-unix] wrote: On 2017-02-09 00:29, Basil Gunn wrote:
Thanks Bjorn, this is an error I have to fix.
For now:
cp README.md to README Yes, that made the trick. Thanks.
Will have to sleep a bit before finalizing but it seems promising.
github uses markdown to render the README at the website and requires
a README.md file but the autoconf tools require a README file with no
extension.
Not sure about the bounce from yahoogroups.com. Will test with this
e-mail from my SMTP server. I read the bounce more carefully and find that it was a delay warning.
I will forward it separately.
Bjorn
/Basil
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 00:04:30 +0100
Bjorn Pehrson <bjorn@...> wrote:
Hi Basil,
This message bounced for some reason.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [paclink-unix] trouble logging in to winlink
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 23:39:41 +0100
From: Bjorn Pehrson <bjorn@...>
To: paclink-unix@...
Hi Basil,
I tried installing the github version and followed the instruction
you pointed at (bazaudi.com) carefully.
I believe that I got everything right.
Nevertheless, I could not quite complete the
autogen.sh/automake/configure cycle. This is what I keep getting:
------------
bjorn@bpX260:~/paclink-unix$ automake --add-missing
Makefile.am: error: required file './README' not found
bjorn@bpX260:~/paclink-unix$
-----------
There is a non-executable file README.md in the directory, is that
the one?
Bjorn
On 2017-02-08 18:45, Bjorn Pehrson bjorn@... [paclink-unix]
wrote:
Well, not your fault. I really appreciate your contribution and
support. I just cloned from github.
Thanks
Bjorn
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I believe that my installation succeed but I am not sure how to test. The console output you sent looks good. I can login to a CMSserver and get emails at least from winlink.org
downloaded but I am not sure that I can send emails yet. How can I
check? You can find answers to your questions on a dokuwiki site I set up: You should look at the Test & Verify section. Besides installing paclink-unix you need to install a Mail Transfer Agent like postfix & a mail client program like Thunderbird or mutt. For sending mail you use your e-mail program to compose a message & it will appear in /usr/local/var/wl2k/outbox. Then you run wl2kax25, wl2ktelnet or wl2kserial to connect to a Winlink CMS and send it through the Winlink system. I sent you a Winlink msg so you should run wl2ktelnet & receive it. /Basil n7nix
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Thanks, I got everything to work except that I am still struggling to get my winlink.org address as from-address. Seems not trivial....
Are there any thoughts about how to use? ardop with paclink-unix?
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On 11 Feb 2017 11:39:52 +0000 "bjorn@... [paclink-unix]" <paclink-unix@...> wrote: Thanks, I got everything to work except that I am still struggling to
get my winlink.org address as from-address. Seems not trivial.... from-address is set in your mail client software for example for mutt in the .muttrc file: set from=n7nix@... Are there any thoughts about how to use ardop with paclink-unix? This doesn't answer your question, I don't know how ardop can be used with paclink-unix. paclink-unix interfaces to an ax.25 network port. The only Linux version of ardop I've seen is by John Wiseman's LinBPQ /Basil n7nix
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As far as I can tell, John G8BPQ's ardop soundcard TNC for Linux is
currently leveraged by:
John G8BPQ's LinBPQ32 BBS and NODE program using a modified
version of his Pactor connector driver for Ardop. I believe with
tying the Linus AX25 stack to the BPQ32 AX25 stack, this should
work:
Bob NW8L's Arim chat program (similar chat and station reporting
functionality like FSQ or parts of Drats) written in C:
Martin Pedersen LA5PTA's PAT program which is trying to be a
multi-platform RMS Express replacement written in Go:
I've also chatted with Rick Muething KN6KB who is the primary
developer of ARDOP and Ardop-Chat doesn't currently work under Wine
but I've heard of working results of RMS Express working under
Wine. To get things working with Linux's AX25 stack, we'd need a
connector driver. I had also previously looked Cathryn Mataga
KE6I's Pactor driver ( ) but I never
received any responses from her on some of my questions so I dropped
it.
I'm curious if anyone else is aware of other projects that can
interface with ARDOP today.
--David
KI6ZHD
On 02/11/2017 09:17 AM, Basil Gunn
basil@... [paclink-unix] wrote:
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On 11 Feb 2017 11:39:52 +0000
"bjorn@... [paclink-unix]"
wrote:
> Thanks, I got everything to work except that I am
still struggling to
> get my winlink.org address as from-address. Seems not
trivial....
from-address is set in your mail client software for
example for mutt
in the .muttrc file:
set from=n7nix@...
> Are there any thoughts about how to use ardop with
paclink-unix?
This doesn't answer your question, I don't know how ardop
can be used
with paclink-unix. paclink-unix interfaces to an ax.25
network port.
The only Linux version of ardop I've seen is by John
Wiseman's LinBPQ
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There is going to be a hardware ARDOP implementation that should work with wl2kserial as well.
Matthew Pitts
N8OHU
ARDOP co-developer On February 11, 2017 12:57:52 PM EST, "David Ranch winlink2k@... [paclink-unix]" wrote:
?
As far as I can tell, John G8BPQ's ardop soundcard TNC for Linux is
currently leveraged by:
?? John G8BPQ's LinBPQ32 BBS and NODE program using a modified
version of his Pactor connector driver for Ardop.? I believe with
tying the Linus AX25 stack to the BPQ32 AX25 stack, this should
work:
?????
?? Bob NW8L's Arim chat program (similar chat and station reporting
functionality like FSQ or parts of Drats) written in C:
?????
?? Martin Pedersen LA5PTA's PAT program which is trying to be a
multi-platform RMS Express replacement written in Go:
? ? ?
I've also chatted with Rick Muething KN6KB who is the primary
developer of ARDOP and Ardop-Chat doesn't currently work under Wine
but I've heard of working results of RMS Express working under
Wine.? To get things working with Linux's AX25 stack, we'd need a
connector driver.? I had also previously looked Cathryn Mataga
KE6I's Pactor driver ( ) but I never
received any responses from her on some of my questions so I dropped
it.
I'm curious if anyone else is aware of other projects that can
interface with ARDOP today.
--David
KI6ZHD
On 02/11/2017 09:17 AM, Basil Gunn
basil@... [paclink-unix] wrote:
?
On 11 Feb 2017 11:39:52 +0000
"bjorn@... [paclink-unix]"
wrote:
> Thanks, I got everything to work except that I am
still struggling to
> get my winlink.org address as from-address. Seems not
trivial....
from-address is set in your mail client software for
example for mutt
in the .muttrc file:
set from=n7nix@...
> Are there any thoughts about how to use ardop with
paclink-unix?
This doesn't answer your question, I don't know how ardop
can be used
with paclink-unix. paclink-unix interfaces to an ax.25
network port.
The only Linux version of ardop I've seen is by John
Wiseman's LinBPQ
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Hello Matthew,
Yes, I was going to mention that Teensy TNC but it's really unclear
how it's going to be interfaced.? Will it be a serial interface (a
poor choice if you ask me), maybe an IP interface and people would
use something like TCP-KISS?? Something else?? It's all unclear at
the moment but looks pretty slick for a fixed TNC-like approach:
Btw, for those who haven't heard of this TNC, below is some details
recently posted to [email protected]
--
Just to inform the group, I have used succesfully for some days the
Teensy TNC designed by John G8BPQ. Here some pictures:
- Uses powerfull microcontroller Teensy 3.6 which allows
flexibility
- Modes ARDOP (HF) and Packet 1200/9600bd (VHF/UHF)
- Configuration by Arduino IDE
- Size same as Raspberry PI, can be stacked. I have used PI Zero
(lowest pic)
- Can be connected to PC via Serial, USB (or Wifi) as a
stand-alone unit without PI
- Can be used with WinlinkExpress as ARDOP modem with Pactor
interface emulation
- TNC needs no sound card and has PTT control, no need for a
separate digi interface
Those are some of the design goals. I have been running this TNC
in combination with Pi Zero/pilinbpq and also short tests with
WinlinkExpress.
73 Jouko OH5RM
--
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Hello Matthew,
Yes, I was going to mention that Teensy TNC but it's really unclear
how it's going to be interfaced.? Will it be a serial interface (a
poor choice if you ask me), maybe an IP interface and people would
use something like TCP-KISS?? Something else?? It's all unclear at
the moment but looks pretty slick for a fixed TNC-like approach:
Btw, for those who haven't heard of this TNC, below is some details
recently posted to [email protected]
--
Just to inform the group, I have used succesfully for some days the
Teensy TNC designed by John G8BPQ. Here some pictures:
- Uses powerfull microcontroller Teensy 3.6 which allows
flexibility
- Modes ARDOP (HF) and Packet 1200/9600bd (VHF/UHF)
- Configuration by Arduino IDE
- Size same as Raspberry PI, can be stacked. I have used PI Zero
(lowest pic)
- Can be connected to PC via Serial, USB (or Wifi) as a
stand-alone unit without PI
- Can be used with WinlinkExpress as ARDOP modem with Pactor
interface emulation
- TNC needs no sound card and has PTT control, no need for a
separate digi interface
Those are some of the design goals. I have been running this TNC
in combination with Pi Zero/pilinbpq and also short tests with
WinlinkExpress.
73 Jouko OH5RM
--
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Basil Gunn