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The Stronalacher Saga


 

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Colin,

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I think you'll find a major difference between a drawing of a loco even in CAD and what is needed for an etched kit. The 7mm Narrow Gauge Association has books of drawings but most predate home CAD systems and were probably done originally by someone to scratch build a model. A lot of the ones published in NG&IRMR are proper works drawings. Both sources need treating with care, in the former case one doesn't know how much information the draughtsman had and in the latter you need to watch what was actually built as opposed to what was designed. All of course, thanks to someone's, efforts far better than nothing at all.

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Nothing like publishing anything for some further information to crawl out of the woodwork and make a fool of you.

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Frank

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From: O14@... [mailto:O14@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 October, 2016 14:57
To: O14@...
Subject: Re: [O14] Re: The Stronalacher Saga

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Hi Paul

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I might be wrong in thinking this, but for me an 014 loco kit will need to have weight, I would guess that if I had a half decent computer and the Auto Cad programme I would have a go at producing 7mm drawings to make up brass etched kits and to also make the masters for the 3D Cad?castings as well.

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I think 014 has a lot going for it, and if I had the space then I would consider building a model in this size, One thing which I am surprised with and that is?the lack of?narrow gauge loco and rolling stock?Cad drawings which are available (you watch, some one will come on here now and tell me where I can find them), but why stop there??as you are half way to getting an etch of that item done.

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May be it is just me getting older and trying to cope with all this new technology.

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Regards

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Colin

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Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 12:20 PM

Subject: Re: [O14] Re: The Stronalacher Saga

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There was a kit actually for the Darjeeling Garratt in 7mm scale?and I have seen the etchings and resin castings, now in the possession of a friend and 7mm NGA member. ?BUT this was, I gather, one of just two test etches and has never been released. ?If anyone can track ?down its heritage then the possibility remains!!?

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Paul?


Colin Rainsbury
 

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Hi Paul
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I might be wrong in thinking this, but for me an 014 loco kit will need to have weight, I would guess that if I had a half decent computer and the Auto Cad programme I would have a go at producing 7mm drawings to make up brass etched kits and to also make the masters for the 3D Cad?castings as well.
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I think 014 has a lot going for it, and if I had the space then I would consider building a model in this size, One thing which I am surprised with and that is?the lack of?narrow gauge loco and rolling stock?Cad drawings which are available (you watch, some one will come on here now and tell me where I can find them), but why stop there??as you are half way to getting an etch of that item done.
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May be it is just me getting older and trying to cope with all this new technology.
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Regards
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Colin
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To: O14@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [O14] Re: The Stronalacher Saga

There was a kit actually for the Darjeeling Garratt in 7mm scale?and I have seen the etchings and resin castings, now in the possession of a friend and 7mm NGA member. ?BUT this was, I gather, one of just two test etches and has never been released. ?If anyone can track ?down its heritage then the possibility remains!!?


Paul?


 

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There was a kit actually for the Darjeeling Garratt in 7mm scale?and I have seen the etchings and resin castings, now in the possession of a friend and 7mm NGA member. ?BUT this was, I gather, one of just two test etches and has never been released. ?If anyone can track ?down its heritage then the possibility remains!!?


Paul?


Colin Rainsbury
 

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Hi Frank you are correct, if you look at the backwoods 009 page you will see what he does for 009, sadly he told me that he drew all the art work by hand and due to a flood where he used to live, he lost the masters.
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The reason I mention of all of this, is I have asked him if he could do the 009 range in 014, but he did not appear to be interested at the time. I am not sure if he got a few enquires would he do them.?
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Link
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I understand that he has to now look after his wife and does not get to that many shows any more, if ever,?he did mention last year that he is willing to sell off parts of the Backwoods range. I was interested in one part of his range, but sadly?everything went wrong at the time at my end, so I could not process with it. I still dont want to see this range disappear, but the truth of the matter is, it just might do so as Pete is thinking in terms of semi retirement.?
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I know he is still designing new kits as the website will testify, but I think he is looking more at the American market, which I dont blame him for.
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Regards
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Colin Rainsbury??????
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To: O14@...
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 11:55 PM
Subject: RE: [O14] Re: The Stronalacher Saga

John,

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B class, which is I think the 0-4-0. There is/was a Darjeeling Garratt in 4mm I think, I've seen a few round exhibitions though they might be scratch built.

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From: O14@... [mailto:O14@...]
Sent: Monday, 10 October, 2016 23:21
To: O14@...
Subject: [O14] Re: The Stronalacher Saga

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"I have a kit for the Darjeeling, I know two who have built them and both said the body worked fine but the chassis wanted work. If you are a member, you can access an article several years ago by Keith Millard in Narrow Lines, magazine of the 7mm narrow Gauge Association."

I didn't think there was a kit for the Darjeeling Garrat, only K1 from Backwoods, although I stand to be corrected. If there is I think I may pass this time.

John


 

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John,

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B class, which is I think the 0-4-0. There is/was a Darjeeling Garratt in 4mm I think, I've seen a few round exhibitions though they might be scratch built.

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From: O14@... [mailto:O14@...]
Sent: Monday, 10 October, 2016 23:21
To: O14@...
Subject: [O14] Re: The Stronalacher Saga

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"I have a kit for the Darjeeling, I know two who have built them and both said the body worked fine but the chassis wanted work. If you are a member, you can access an article several years ago by Keith Millard in Narrow Lines, magazine of the 7mm narrow Gauge Association."

I didn't think there was a kit for the Darjeeling Garrat, only K1 from Backwoods, although I stand to be corrected. If there is I think I may pass this time.

John


Colin Rainsbury
 

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Thanks Frank for the help.
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I am not a member of the 7mm group yet, the thing is I do have a large collection of 00n3 stock and kits to build and I am against selling them all off as it has taken me ages to put the collection together for a layout I have planned.
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As for a 7mm layout if I should get around to building such a layout, it will have to be duel gauge, i.e. 14mm narrow gauge?and 33mm finescale standard gauge.
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It would be?set somewhere in the?Somerset/Devon area, this is so I can run SR/GWR/SDJR stock and a mixture of L&BR/FR/WW1 stock on the Narrow gauge.
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I like the idea of using Minffordd as a basis for the NG and interchange sidings but then for the SG bit I have always liked Halwill Junction as that had two SR lines, a GWR Branch plus an MOD Supplies Depot near by (up to the First WW).????
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Regards
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Colin
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To: O14@...
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: [O14] The Stronalacher Saga

Colin,

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I have a few more minutes.

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The Springside Fowler is pretty crude, you'll need to do a lot to it to make something decent. I think it takes a Polly or Smokey Joe chassis. Buy the replacement S J etched version from Branchlines with Romford wheels but no motor or gear box. Buy those from High Level, 108:1 and fit a flywheel.. You can play about with the body knowing that it will run like a dream.

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I'd put the same gearbox in Prince. I've regeared Palmerston from the same kit for a friend, another friend says steam engines cannot run so slow as the steam condenses in the cylinders!

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The Baldwin, if you can get one has a bit of a reputation as a lot of work to get right. I have three part built with HL gearboxes again.

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I have a kit for the Darjeeling, I know two who have built them and both said the body worked fine but the chassis wanted work. If you are a member, you can access an article several years ago by Keith Millard in Narrow Lines, magazine of the 7mm narrow Gauge Association. There's another by me, The Peacock, the Eagle and the Dragon where I mess about with the Branchlines Peacock kit on their Eagle chassis, that has the HL drive,

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Frank

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From: O14@... [mailto:O14@...]
Sent: Monday, 10 October, 2016 11:39
To: O14@...
Subject: [O14] The Stronalacher Saga

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Hi Guys

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I am not sure how many of you guys will have read the articles about this 009 layout from many years ago, but I appear to have more time on my hands than is good for me right now, so I though I would ask on here if any of the following locos have an O14 kit available.

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I know some won't, simply because they are based on commercial 009 locos, but others might, so I though I would ask, the numbers by the way refer to

the on Stronalacher.

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No 1 Freelance 0-6-0T?

No 2 Venus - the loco is based on a Fowler 0-4-0 built for the Colonial Sugar Refining Co Ltd in 1880.

No 3 Prince?- based?on the FR England engines in the latest format with a saddle tank.

No 4 Exe?- based on the L & B loco in her later form.????????????????????????????????????? EDM will have a kit available at some time?

No 5 Prince Charlie?- a model of one of the G W R built locos for the V o R ??? Didn't some one used to make a white metal body of this??

No 6 A Baldwin 4-6-0 built for the WW1 trench railways.????????????????????????????????Didn't Wrightlines used to make a white metal body of this??

No 7?A model of one of the Darjeeling Himalayan B Class?????????????????????????????? Didn't Wrightlines used to make a white metal body of this???

No 8 A model of a Hibberd Planet diesel, inspired by one from the Ashover.

No 9 An 0-4-4-0 Beyer Garrat based on the one built for the Darjeeling Himalayan

No 10 Freelance diesel loco

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Sorry If I have posted this before, but I cant find the?answers at the moment.

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Also dose anyone have a current Wrightlines catalogue if one exists?

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Regards

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Colin Rainsbury?

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"I have a kit for the Darjeeling, I know two who have built them and both said the body worked fine but the chassis wanted work. If you are a member, you can access an article several years ago by Keith Millard in Narrow Lines, magazine of the 7mm narrow Gauge Association."

I didn't think there was a kit for the Darjeeling Garrat, only K1 from Backwoods, although I stand to be corrected. If there is I think I may pass this time.

John


 

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Colin,

?

I have a few more minutes.

?

The Springside Fowler is pretty crude, you'll need to do a lot to it to make something decent. I think it takes a Polly or Smokey Joe chassis. Buy the replacement S J etched version from Branchlines with Romford wheels but no motor or gear box. Buy those from High Level, 108:1 and fit a flywheel.. You can play about with the body knowing that it will run like a dream.

?

I'd put the same gearbox in Prince. I've regeared Palmerston from the same kit for a friend, another friend says steam engines cannot run so slow as the steam condenses in the cylinders!

?

The Baldwin, if you can get one has a bit of a reputation as a lot of work to get right. I have three part built with HL gearboxes again.

?

I have a kit for the Darjeeling, I know two who have built them and both said the body worked fine but the chassis wanted work. If you are a member, you can access an article several years ago by Keith Millard in Narrow Lines, magazine of the 7mm narrow Gauge Association. There's another by me, The Peacock, the Eagle and the Dragon where I mess about with the Branchlines Peacock kit on their Eagle chassis, that has the HL drive,

.

?

Frank

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From: O14@... [mailto:O14@...]
Sent: Monday, 10 October, 2016 11:39
To: O14@...
Subject: [O14] The Stronalacher Saga

?

?

Hi Guys

?

I am not sure how many of you guys will have read the articles about this 009 layout from many years ago, but I appear to have more time on my hands than is good for me right now, so I though I would ask on here if any of the following locos have an O14 kit available.

?

I know some won't, simply because they are based on commercial 009 locos, but others might, so I though I would ask, the numbers by the way refer to

the on Stronalacher.

?

No 1 Freelance 0-6-0T?

No 2 Venus - the loco is based on a Fowler 0-4-0 built for the Colonial Sugar Refining Co Ltd in 1880.

No 3 Prince?- based?on the FR England engines in the latest format with a saddle tank.

No 4 Exe?- based on the L & B loco in her later form.????????????????????????????????????? EDM will have a kit available at some time?

No 5 Prince Charlie?- a model of one of the G W R built locos for the V o R ??? Didn't some one used to make a white metal body of this??

No 6 A Baldwin 4-6-0 built for the WW1 trench railways.????????????????????????????????Didn't Wrightlines used to make a white metal body of this??

No 7?A model of one of the Darjeeling Himalayan B Class?????????????????????????????? Didn't Wrightlines used to make a white metal body of this???

No 8 A model of a Hibberd Planet diesel, inspired by one from the Ashover.

No 9 An 0-4-4-0 Beyer Garrat based on the one built for the Darjeeling Himalayan

No 10 Freelance diesel loco

?

Sorry If I have posted this before, but I cant find the?answers at the moment.

?

Also dose anyone have a current Wrightlines catalogue if one exists?

?

Regards

?

Colin Rainsbury?

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Colin,

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Fowler 0-4-0, Springside, pretty crude kit

FR small England loco, Mercian

VoR try Chivers finelines, may be wrong on this,

Baldwin, Wrightlines, S/H if you are lucky

Darjeeling, EDM Brass and N/S kit

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Frank

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From: O14@... [mailto:O14@...]
Sent: Monday, 10 October, 2016 11:39
To: O14@...
Subject: [O14] The Stronalacher Saga

?

?

Hi Guys

?

I am not sure how many of you guys will have read the articles about this 009 layout from many years ago, but I appear to have more time on my hands than is good for me right now, so I though I would ask on here if any of the following locos have an O14 kit available.

?

I know some won't, simply because they are based on commercial 009 locos, but others might, so I though I would ask, the numbers by the way refer to

the on Stronalacher.

?

No 1 Freelance 0-6-0T?

No 2 Venus - the loco is based on a Fowler 0-4-0 built for the Colonial Sugar Refining Co Ltd in 1880.

No 3 Prince?- based?on the FR England engines in the latest format with a saddle tank.

No 4 Exe?- based on the L & B loco in her later form.????????????????????????????????????? EDM will have a kit available at some time?

No 5 Prince Charlie?- a model of one of the G W R built locos for the V o R ??? Didn't some one used to make a white metal body of this??

No 6 A Baldwin 4-6-0 built for the WW1 trench railways.????????????????????????????????Didn't Wrightlines used to make a white metal body of this??

No 7?A model of one of the Darjeeling Himalayan B Class?????????????????????????????? Didn't Wrightlines used to make a white metal body of this???

No 8 A model of a Hibberd Planet diesel, inspired by one from the Ashover.

No 9 An 0-4-4-0 Beyer Garrat based on the one built for the Darjeeling Himalayan

No 10 Freelance diesel loco

?

Sorry If I have posted this before, but I cant find the?answers at the moment.

?

Also dose anyone have a current Wrightlines catalogue if one exists?

?

Regards

?

Colin Rainsbury?

?????

?

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Colin Rainsbury
 

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Hi Guys
?
I am not sure how many of you guys will have read the articles about this 009 layout from many years ago, but I appear to have more time on my hands than is good for me right now, so I though I would ask on here if any of the following locos have an O14 kit available.
?
I know some won't, simply because they are based on commercial 009 locos, but others might, so I though I would ask, the numbers by the way refer to
the on Stronalacher.
?
No 1 Freelance 0-6-0T?
No 2 Venus - the loco is based on a Fowler 0-4-0 built for the Colonial Sugar Refining Co Ltd in 1880.
No 3 Prince?- based?on the FR England engines in the latest format with a saddle tank.
No 4 Exe?- based on the L & B loco in her later form.????????????????????????????????????? EDM will have a kit available at some time?
No 5 Prince Charlie?- a model of one of the G W R built locos for the V o R ??? Didn't some one used to make a white metal body of this??
No 6 A Baldwin 4-6-0 built for the WW1 trench railways.????????????????????????????????Didn't Wrightlines used to make a white metal body of this??
No 7?A model of one of the Darjeeling Himalayan B Class?????????????????????????????? Didn't Wrightlines used to make a white metal body of this???
No 8 A model of a Hibberd Planet diesel, inspired by one from the Ashover.
No 9 An 0-4-4-0 Beyer Garrat based on the one built for the Darjeeling Himalayan
No 10 Freelance diesel loco
?
Sorry If I have posted this before, but I cant find the?answers at the moment.
?
Also dose anyone have a current Wrightlines catalogue if one exists?
?
Regards
?
Colin Rainsbury?
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