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Quarry Hunslet Book Second Edition


 

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Please does anyone have Cliff Thomas's Quarry Hunslet book second edition, 2004 I think? I'm told that it contains a 'poor head on' picture of the two locos with low cabs at Moel Tryfan / Alexandra / Amalgamated Slate. I have the first edition 2001 and it isn't in that.

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I don't want to try to get a second edition if this picture isn't in.

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Frank


Roy C Link
 

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Frank,

I’ve just had a quick look at the second edition of Quarry Hunslets of North Wales and the entries for Tryfan and Cadfan just have Hunslet official photos (one each).

However, if you reach for your copy of Slate Quarry Album (second edition) you will find a detailed reproduction of the photo you mention of the pair head on - this reproduced from an original print. There is also a photo showing Tryfan with the ‘breadbin’ cab and rubbish wagon tender circa 1920. Both on page 50.

Regards,

Roy

On 29 Jun 2018, at 10:01, Frank Sharp via Groups.Io <frank.j.sharp@...> wrote:

Please does anyone have Cliff Thomas's Quarry Hunslet book second edition, 2004 I think? I'm told that it contains a 'poor head on' picture of the two locos with low cabs at Moel Tryfan / Alexandra / Amalgamated Slate. I have the first edition 2001 and it isn't in that.
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I don't want to try to get a second edition if this picture isn't in.
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Frank


 

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Thanks Roy, as with Thomas I have only the first edition of Slate Quarry Album. Internet search coming up!

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Frank

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roy C Link
Sent: Friday, 29 June, 2018 11:04
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Subject: Re: [o14] Quarry Hunslet Book Second Edition

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Frank,

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I’ve just had a quick look at the second edition of Quarry Hunslets of North Wales and the entries for Tryfan and Cadfan just have Hunslet official photos (one each).

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However, if you reach for your copy of Slate Quarry Album (second edition) you will find a detailed reproduction of the photo you mention of the pair head on - this reproduced from an original print. There is also a photo showing Tryfan with the ‘breadbin’ cab and rubbish wagon tender circa 1920. Both on page 50.

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Regards,

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Roy

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On 29 Jun 2018, at 10:01, Frank Sharp via Groups.Io <frank.j.sharp@...> wrote:



Please does anyone have Cliff Thomas's Quarry Hunslet book second edition, 2004 I think? I'm told that it contains a 'poor head on' picture of the two locos with low cabs at Moel Tryfan / Alexandra / Amalgamated Slate. I have the first edition 2001 and it isn't in that.

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I don't want to try to get a second edition if this picture isn't in.

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Frank

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Hi,
I think there is a copy of the photo in Boyd's NG Railways of Southern Caernarconshire, Vol 1 - edition published in the 1980s.? Think there's also a couple more of one or other of the locos in there, aside from the works photo.
Keith


 

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Keith,

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There is! I'd looked at the rear of the book where the text refers to the NWNGR, never occurred to look at the front where the text is about the embankment railway. Neither is a 'good' photo but it tells me what I need to know. Tryfan still has its original semicircular cab, it wasn't cut down as low as that on Cadfan. In business!

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Thanks

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Frank

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of keith968150@...
Sent: Friday, 29 June, 2018 16:25
To: [email protected]
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Hi,
I think there is a copy of the photo in Boyd's NG Railways of Southern Caernarconshire, Vol 1 - edition published in the 1980s.? Think there's also a couple more of one or other of the locos in there, aside from the works photo.
Keith


 

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Andrew Ross
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Sharp via Groups.Io <frank.j.sharp@...>
To: o14 <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 10:06
Subject: [o14] Quarry Hunslet Book Second Edition

Please does anyone have Cliff Thomas's Quarry Hunslet book second edition, 2004 I think? I'm told that it contains a 'poor head on' picture of the two locos with low cabs at Moel Tryfan / Alexandra / Amalgamated Slate. I have the first edition 2001 and it isn't in that.
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I don't want to try to get a second edition if this picture isn't in.
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Frank


 

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Andrew,

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Thanks, but I already have these.

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To explain,

Tryfan was built in 1902. It had a low cab to work tunnels at Moel Tryfan quarry. It had a cab roof as a full half circle rising from the edges of what would have been the top of the cab side sheets on an open cab Hunslet. This is what I assume Roy means by a bread bib roof.

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Cadfan followed in 1904, the roof sprang from the same point but had a flattened top as Andrew's second picture, Tryfan was 6 ft high, I'd guess at Cadfan just over 5ft.

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My concern was that if two years later Cadfan was ordered with a lower roof had Tryfan not fit and was it pruned in Wales. From these pictures it is clear that Tryfan kept its higher roof.

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The quarry is being reworked for 'decorative' slate and the tunnels are no longer accessible. I went to look last Autumn, and fortunately ran into David Gwyn there. He says there were two tunnels at different heights (above sea level).

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Anyway I can (when I get round to it) make up Mercian kits with different cab heights knowing that they ran in the quarry like that.

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Frank

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Ross via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, 29 June, 2018 20:33
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Do these help

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Andrew Ross
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Sharp via Groups.Io <frank.j.sharp@...>
To: o14 <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 10:06
Subject: [o14] Quarry Hunslet Book Second Edition

Please does anyone have Cliff Thomas's Quarry Hunslet book second edition, 2004 I think? I'm told that it contains a 'poor head on' picture of the two locos with low cabs at Moel Tryfan / Alexandra / Amalgamated Slate. I have the first edition 2001 and it isn't in that.

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I don't want to try to get a second edition if this picture isn't in.

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Frank