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Possible Tal-y-llyn rly layout


 

I'm mulling over potentially building a small layout representing the Tal-y-llyn circ 1900. I have just finished 8 prototype wagons and I've nothing to put them on. The official gauge is 2ft3 however, reading the wild Swan book, unofficially the gauge was widened by about an inch to 2ft4 to allow Tal-y-llyn to run better. If I go for the official gauge then it should be 0-15.75 or the eased gauge of 0-16.35 which is close enough to 0-16.5 not to worry about. From a stock point of view I can re-gauge them with very little effort. so that isn't really a factor. Although loco wheels might be something of an issue. I'm not a great track builder so I was going to get some EM point kits and get some chairs printed.??

I know this is not 0-14 but I will be using the track standards. What do people think I should do?

Marc


 

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I have a recollection that the O14 standards were based on EM standards.? I also recall that when Gordon Gravett produced his TR diorama he adopted EM standards and reduced the gauge to 16mm. Everything worked fine so that might be a way forward?

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Robin

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Subject: [o14] Possible Tal-y-llyn rly layout
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I'm mulling over potentially building a small layout representing the Tal-y-llyn circ 1900. I have just finished 8 prototype wagons and I've nothing to put them on. The official gauge is 2ft3 however, reading the wild Swan book, unofficially the gauge was widened by about an inch to 2ft4 to allow Tal-y-llyn to run better. If I go for the official gauge then it should be 0-15.75 or the eased gauge of 0-16.35 which is close enough to 0-16.5 not to worry about. From a stock point of view I can re-gauge them with very little effort. so that isn't really a factor. Although loco wheels might be something of an issue. I'm not a great track builder so I was going to get some EM point kits and get some chairs printed.??

I know this is not 0-14 but I will be using the track standards. What do people think I should do?

Marc


 

I forgot to say there is lovely article in this months MRJ which I would love to replicate, if only I had the skills. Not sure which gauge was used and the weight of the track.?

Marc


 

I too have made a faltering start on a bit of Dolgoch station. ?From recollection, the Boyd book quotes 2'3" plus the width of the plate layer's thumb - that's 1/2" to me so 2'3 and 1/2" is a hair's breadth over 16mm gauge (16.0574.....mm to be precise, but my thumb isn''t exactly 1/2"). ?I have built 16mm gauge track for the public side and plan (if the project goes anywhere) on 00 track for the fiddle yard. ?Regular 00 gauge back to back runs better on 16mm gauge than on 16.5 with check rails laid to EM standards not 00. ?Dolgoch has no turnouts anyway so no need to build any.
Paul?


 

This might be a silly question do the wheels need re-profiling??

Marc


 

Hi Marc,

RP25 profile wheels as used on most modern 00/H0 models should be fine as is.

John


 

I was thinking of start loco building with the peco Tal-y-llyn then scratch building Dolgogh as there is no kit anymore.

Marc


 

Its a long shot, but you could try contacting Adrian Swain (ABS) he may still have a few Dolgoch kits knocking around.?

Steev

On Saturday, December 14, 2019, 01:18:47 PM GMT, Marc Dobson <marcbobdobson@...> wrote:


I was thinking of start loco building with the peco Tal-y-llyn then scratch building Dolgogh as there is no kit anymore.

Marc


 

Adrian (ABS) is no longer trading due to health reasons. So I might have to scratch build one. With the response I had to the wagon's I produced I'm not going to be producing anymore narrow gauge kits. I have a few drawings in both 7 and 16 scales and a fair number of photos.

What profile track should I use? peco code 100 looks to big!

Marc


 

Have a look at MRJ 275, Peter Kazer and Gordon Gravett have built a lovely diorama of the Ty Dywr water tank.


 

Yes, I just wish I could get close to that standard. Its what is pushing me to producing something. That and the fact my 4 year old saw the Tal-y-llyn Rly stand at the Bristol O gauge show a few weeks ago and hasn't talked about anything since.?
Marc


 

On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 14:42, stephen howe via Groups.Io
<stephenjhowe@...> wrote:

Have a look at MRJ 275, Peter Kazer and Gordon Gravett have built a lovely diorama of the Ty Dywr water tank.
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Indeed; AFAIAA it was built in conjunction with the appeal that I'm
running for the Talyllyn to restore the watering point at Ty Dwr.

If anyone is interested in further details: please take a look at
this Facebook link, which is the landing page for the Appeal.


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