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[O-14] Rollingstock Wheels
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Frank Sharp
Mark,
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What are you thinking of making or having made that Gibson in particular doesn't do? He makes curly spokes in 3 sizes. 9, 10.5 and 12mm, and some of his 00 wheels will also do for narrow gauge. If you are using standard wheels, make sure you ask for 00, assuming that is the standard you want, he does different wheel profiles, e.g P4. Normal axle length is 26 mm but he will also supply, given a couple of days notice usually, on Lima replacement axles at 24.5 mm. These are a better idea in the 7mm NGA slate wagons, where you can then fit his waisted bearings. They end up so free running they are a devil to shunt with Kay Dees, I am working on a DCC brake van! I'm sure Phil will correct me if I am wrong, but I think A G is making the wheels for Portwynnstay's inside bearing Festiniog Railway wagons. Phil, are they your exclusive for the kits or can we buy them from A G or yourself on their own? A G doesn't as far as I know supply to 14mm gauge, but I bought a 16.5 gauge brass back to back gauge, 14.5 mm ?, and turned the faces down in a lathe to 12.45 mm. I drilled two holes on the solid part of the gauge, 2.5 mm diameter and just deep enough so that if you push one end of a 26 mm axle set hard into one hole, and then the other end into the same hole it pushes the wheels in to the correct B to B for 14mm. The other hole does for 24.5 mm axles. I have found that if you disturb A G wagon wheels sometimes the rims come loose. I usually spend an evening trimming the flash, pushing the rims off, and bedding them back with a smear of 24 hour Araldite. The next night I regauge them, with another drop of Araldite on the axle. I think they would probably be O.K. if I didn't mess about with the gauge. Frank -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Kendrick [mailto:trainbrain@...] Sent: 06 December 2004 12:38 To: O-14@... Subject: [O-14] Rollingstock Wheels G'day all, What is commonly used as 14mm gauge wheelsets for rollingstock? I believe Roy Link won't sell his wheels separately, is Gibson the only other supplier? Is there any interest in having a small run of 14mm gauge wheelsets for rollingstock made? They could be straight, split or curly spoked, or disc-with or without holes, and in whatever diameter is wanted. And whatever axle length is deemed most suitable. A concensus would have to be reached as I don't want to do more than one size/shape yet. Cost to you would be cost to me plus postage. If your interested, make yourself heard! Cheers, Mark K trainbrain@... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT < D=groups/S=1706043018:HM/EXP=1102422842/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*htt p:/www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here < s/S=:HM/A=2434971/rand=329745652> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: O-14-unsubscribe@... <mailto:O-14-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <> Service. |
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See reply to Mark whic should hit group about now for answers to most of your queries. When I asked A.G. about selling the F.R. wheel he replied that if anyone enquired he referred them to me, if there is a demand I will order extra above and beyond those I need for my kits and supply them, same price as Alan's other wheels and axles. Regards Phil T. ----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Sharp To: O-14@... Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 1:24 PM Subject: RE: [O-14] Rollingstock Wheels Mark, What are you thinking of making or having made that Gibson in particular doesn't do? He makes curly spokes in 3 sizes. 9, 10.5 and 12mm, and some of his 00 wheels will also do for narrow gauge. If you are using standard wheels, make sure you ask for 00, assuming that is the standard you want, he does different wheel profiles, e.g P4. Normal axle length is 26 mm but he will also supply, given a couple of days notice usually, on Lima replacement axles at 24.5 mm. These are a better idea in the 7mm NGA slate wagons, where you can then fit his waisted bearings. They end up so free running they are a devil to shunt with Kay Dees, I am working on a DCC brake van! I'm sure Phil will correct me if I am wrong, but I think A G is making the wheels for Portwynnstay's inside bearing Festiniog Railway wagons. Phil, are they your exclusive for the kits or can we buy them from A G or yourself on their own? A G doesn't as far as I know supply to 14mm gauge, but I bought a 16.5 gauge brass back to back gauge, 14.5 mm ?, and turned the faces down in a lathe to 12.45 mm. I drilled two holes on the solid part of the gauge, 2.5 mm diameter and just deep enough so that if you push one end of a 26 mm axle set hard into one hole, and then the other end into the same hole it pushes the wheels in to the correct B to B for 14mm. The other hole does for 24.5 mm axles. I have found that if you disturb A G wagon wheels sometimes the rims come loose. I usually spend an evening trimming the flash, pushing the rims off, and bedding them back with a smear of 24 hour Araldite. The next night I regauge them, with another drop of Araldite on the axle. I think they would probably be O.K. if I didn't mess about with the gauge. Frank -----Original Message----- From: Mark Kendrick [mailto:trainbrain@...] Sent: 06 December 2004 12:38 To: O-14@... Subject: [O-14] Rollingstock Wheels G'day all, What is commonly used as 14mm gauge wheelsets for rollingstock? I believe Roy Link won't sell his wheels separately, is Gibson the only other supplier? Is there any interest in having a small run of 14mm gauge wheelsets for rollingstock made? They could be straight, split or curly spoked, or disc-with or without holes, and in whatever diameter is wanted. And whatever axle length is deemed most suitable. A concensus would have to be reached as I don't want to do more than one size/shape yet. Cost to you would be cost to me plus postage. If your interested, make yourself heard! Cheers, Mark K trainbrain@... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT < D=groups/S=1706043018:HM/EXP=1102422842/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*htt p:/www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here < s/S=:HM/A=2434971/rand=329745652> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: O-14-unsubscribe@... <mailto:O-14-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <> Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: O-14-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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G'day All,
I simply want wheels for my own use, I can get them cheaper than importing them from the UK. And being a student cheapness is a major consideration. I do have some A G curly spoke 12mm wheels, they are very nice, but still expensive. And I can get my wheels to whatever size and shape I want. I'm going to get 12" dia coalskip wheels for myself anyway, and a larger diameter once I've decided what I want, or unless someone wants to sway my decision with a preferred size/shape. Regards, Mark K |
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Frank Sharp
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How constructed, metal rim and plastic inner? Keep us in touch, 7mm diameter wheels (scale 12") might be of use to some of us. When you get some made, send Adrian Gray a set for review in Narrow Lines, it is good publicity and his reviews are fair. Frank -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Kendrick [mailto:trainbrain@...] Sent: 06 December 2004 23:40 To: O-14@... Subject: RE: [O-14] Rollingstock Wheels G'day All, I simply want wheels for my own use, I can get them cheaper than importing them from the UK. And being a student cheapness is a major consideration. I do have some A G curly spoke 12mm wheels, they are very nice, but still expensive. And I can get my wheels to whatever size and shape I want. I'm going to get 12" dia coalskip wheels for myself anyway, and a larger diameter once I've decided what I want, or unless someone wants to sway my decision with a preferred size/shape. Regards, Mark K Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT < D=groups/S=1706043018:HM/EXP=1102462590/A=2434971/R=0/SIG=11eeoolb0/*htt p:/www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185400> click here < s/S=:HM/A=2434971/rand=737151928> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: O-14-unsubscribe@... <mailto:O-14-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <> Service. |
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They will be plastic inner, metal rim, metal axle. I can get gunmetal, nickel silver, brass, mild steel etc for metals, and delrin or other engineering plastics for inners. I'll have to find out if I can get the metal blackened. I've never got past laying flextrack before so materials for wheels is a whole new game. The coal skips wheels are a 6 flat spoke design, inside bearing. The coalskips to go with them will be for sale too sometime next year (in limited quantities, undecided on construction method). Heres a pic of the prototype skip (albeit with different wheels): Will Adrian review something from someone who isn't an Association member? Regards, Mark K -----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2004 10:44 AM To: O-14@... Subject: RE: [O-14] Rollingstock Wheels Mark, How constructed, metal rim and plastic inner? Keep us in touch, 7mm diameter wheels (scale 12") might be of use to some of us. When you get some made, send Adrian Gray a set for review in Narrow Lines, it is good publicity and his reviews are fair. Frank |
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Frank Sharp
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From: Mark Kendrick [mailto:trainbrain@...] Sent: 07 December 2004 00:02 To: O-14@... Subject: RE: [O-14] Rollingstock Wheels Frank, They will be plastic inner, metal rim, metal axle. I can get gunmetal, nickel silver, brass, mild steel etc for metals, and delrin or other engineering plastics for inners. I'll have to find out if I can get the metal blackened. I've never got past laying flextrack before so materials for wheels is a whole new game. The coal skips wheels are a 6 flat spoke design, inside bearing. The coalskips to go with them will be for sale too sometime next year (in limited quantities, undecided on construction method). Heres a pic of the prototype skip (albeit with different wheels): Will Adrian review something from someone who isn't an Association member? Regards, Mark K -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2004 10:44 AM To: O-14@... Subject: RE: [O-14] Rollingstock Wheels Mark, How constructed, metal rim and plastic inner? Keep us in touch, 7mm diameter wheels (scale 12") might be of use to some of us. When you get some made, send Adrian Gray a set for review in Narrow Lines, it is good publicity and his reviews are fair. Frank Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT < D=groups/S=1706043018:HM/EXP=1102463919/A=2455397/R=0/SIG=119u9qmi7/*htt p:/smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/> click here < s/S=:HM/A=2455397/rand=918254474> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: O-14-unsubscribe@... <mailto:O-14-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <> Service. |
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