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L&B Models "LYN" in 1/48 2' Gauge.

Craig Parry All Messages By This Member #8049 I recently purchased this locomotive at auction from the estate of Peter Barney, a well known Maine Two Foot author and modeller.?? I understand that the kit version of this loco became what is now the Slater's kit with a modified motor and drive system with Slater's wheels Does anyone know the history of the earlier L&B loco and who was behind it?? From correspondence with Roy Link I know he partnered at one time with Alan Gibson to produce a limited run of 50 L&B kits that featured milled frames, sprung axles and portescap motors and Alan Gibson wheels and that a second version of locos came later from Alan without all those features.?? Was there a third maker of Lynton & Barnstaple 7mm kits? CP Lyn 2.png Lyn 3.png
Paul Martin All Messages By This Member #8050 The only Lyn kit I am aware of is one produced by L&B models in 014. This is the kit that after a long period of non availability became the Slaters kit. Wheels gears & motor are pretty much the extent of the changes made by Slaters. It’s 1:43.5 not 1:48. Alan Gibson did the wheels for the L&B version. It was, and remains, a challenge to build. Having been designed for 14mm doing to 16.5mm was a real challenge. L&B models were the work of David Nicholson. He went on to create ZTC DCC. I’m currently regauging three Lionheart 2-6-2’s for him. The Link/Gibson Link/Gibson models only covered the 2-6-2’s. Each version was quite different. I now own the Gibson designs but have examples of each iteration. Paul Martin
Craig Parry All Messages By This Member #8051 Most interesting, thanks. This particular loco has been gauged to 12.5mm but the brake and hanger assemblies appear to be for 14mm. CP toggle quoted message Show quoted text The only Lyn kit I am aware of is one produced by L&B models in 014. This is the kit that after a long period of non availability became the Slaters kit. Wheels gears & motor are pretty much the extent of the changes made by Slaters. It?€?s 1:43.5 not 1:48. Alan Gibson did the wheels for the L&B version. It was, and remains, a challenge to build. Having been designed for 14mm doing to 16.5mm was a real challenge. L&B models were the work of David Nicholson. He went on to create ZTC DCC. I?€?m currently regauging three Lionheart 2-6-2?€?s for him. The Link/Gibson Link/Gibson models only covered the 2-6-2?€?s. Each version was quite different. I now own the Gibson designs but have examples of each iteration. Paul Martin
David Hughes All Messages By This Member #8052 开云体育 One of the differences Slater’s did was to incorporate Dave’s add-on kits into the main model. The kit was a bit unbalanced so Dave lightened parts like the white metal cab roof and put extra weight near the front and back. I think Allan Dare has built both versions: my L&B one is barely out of the box! David H toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 10 Apr 2024, at 19:35, Paul Martin <groups2@...> wrote: ? The only Lyn kit I am aware of is one produced by L&B models in 014. This is the kit that after a long period of non availability became the Slaters kit. Wheels gears & motor are pretty much the extent of the changes made by Slaters. It’s 1:43.5 not 1:48. Alan Gibson did the wheels for the L&B version. It was, and remains, a challenge to build. Having been designed for 14mm doing to 16.5mm was a real challenge. L&B models were the work of David Nicholson. He went on to create ZTC DCC. I’m currently regauging three Lionheart 2-6-2’s for him. The Link/Gibson Link/Gibson models only covered the 2-6-2’s. Each version was quite different. I now own the Gibson designs but have examples of each iteration. Paul Martin
Allan Dare All Messages By This Member #8053 开云体育 Thanks for the commendation, David, but I’ve only (almost) built the David Nicholson kit, in Lyn’s 1902-6 livery and condition. The Slater’s kit will be built in late SR condition, but for the time being I’ve barely opened the box. Working in O14 certainly helps - clearances would be decidedly tight in 16.5. The main problems with the kit are a) folding up the frames; and b) finding somewhere to put the pick-ups, No criticism of David Nicholson’s kit ?intended - the airy bar frames don’t make things easy for a kit designer! Threading the Gibson wheels and gears onto the axles through the frames is difficult, but the Slater’s re-design solves this nicely. Otherwise, ?it goes together well, although the resin castings are a tad delicate, and the finished product does look good. Allan D toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 10 Apr 2024, at 20:50, David Hughes <formerchurchwarden@...> wrote: ? One of the differences Slater’s did was to incorporate Dave’s add-on kits into the main model. The kit was a bit unbalanced so Dave lightened parts like the white metal cab roof and put extra weight near the front and back. I think Allan Dare has built both versions: my L&B one is barely out of the box! David H On 10 Apr 2024, at 19:35, Paul Martin <groups2@...> wrote: ? The only Lyn kit I am aware of is one produced by L&B models in 014. This is the kit that after a long period of non availability became the Slaters kit. Wheels gears & motor are pretty much the extent of the changes made by Slaters. It’s 1:43.5 not 1:48. Alan Gibson did the wheels for the L&B version. It was, and remains, a challenge to build. Having been designed for 14mm doing to 16.5mm was a real challenge. L&B models were the work of David Nicholson. He went on to create ZTC DCC. I’m currently regauging three Lionheart 2-6-2’s for him. The Link/Gibson Link/Gibson models only covered the 2-6-2’s. Each version was quite different. I now own the Gibson designs but have examples of each iteration. Paul Martin
Paul Holmes All Messages By This Member #8054 I have built a Slaters version in 1930s condition and have an early L&B Models one to build which will be in its earliest form. I anticipate getting the new Slater wheels with cranks etc for it when the time comes. They are nicely engineered.? My one problem was the Slaters SG4 motor and gearbox. It is impossible to assemble as described. I substituted an Portescap RG 4 as the motor can be detached from the gearbox. I think a High Level gearbox and motor would be better actually as the RG4 is a bit noisy.? Paul?
Phillip Harding All Messages By This Member #8055 开云体育 On RG7s the noise is usually the little gear on the motor slipping back. ?Plastic on steel shaft, I loctite mine. It might be worth just pushing it forward a bit. See if that improves it. On 12 Apr 2024, at 18:09, Paul Holmes <heatonwood@...> wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text I have built a Slaters version in 1930s condition and have an early L&B Models one to build which will be in its earliest form. I anticipate getting the new Slater wheels with cranks etc for it when the time comes. They are nicely engineered.? My one problem was the Slaters SG4 motor and gearbox. It is impossible to assemble as described. I substituted an Portescap RG 4 as the motor can be detached from the gearbox. I think a High Level gearbox and motor would be better actually as the RG4 is a bit noisy.? Paul?

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