Re: Narrow Gauge & Industrial Railway Modelling REVIEW
Issue 116 has been sent to the printers with despatch due in the next week or two.?The contents are as follows:
- Fen End Pit - The Rebuild - David Barham describes improvements to his 16mm layout
- The Other Way Around… - More on the Road-Rail system from Jonathan Palterman
- 7mm Scale Trees - Robin Edwards show you how to build deciduous trees
- Die Adlershorst Waldbahn - Part 1 - Making the forest by Roy C Link
- Kalka-Simla Articulated Locomotives - Archive material
- Kalka-Simla Rly in Postcards - Colour postcards from the past
- Equipment for Huffkins Mine - Modelling excellence from Stuart McPherson in 1:24 scale
- Compressed Air Mining Locomotive - Archive material
- Surviving the heat - Long term layout ownership with John Clutterbuck
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John
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Re: DCC Concepts Rolling Road with 14mm option
Nice to see these in use with a proper big loco -- I'd only
tested them with my tiny Clayton model. As Chris stated we'd
started work on these before knowing that David had also produced
a set. Given I'd done the design work already it seemed daft not
to make them available, and I know from discussions with David on
the NGRM forum that he doesn't feel I'm stepping on his toes by
doing so.
So if anybody wants a set they are available at
-- the price fluctuates a bit due to the way Shapeways deals with
pricing and exchange rates but currently ?6.40 will get you a set
of four spacers (i.e. four axles worth) which I imagine will be
enough for most people,
Mark
On 02/10/18 16:32, Cliff Stone via
Groups.Io wrote:
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Perhaps this time with the photo's....?
Cliff C
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Re: DCC Concepts Rolling Road with 14mm option
Perhaps this time with the photo's....?
Cliff C
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Re: DCC Concepts Rolling Road with 14mm option
As per conversations elsewhere, so has Mark Greenwood produced some 14mm spacers compatible with the DCC Concepts Rolling Road.? This was after some emails between us and before we knew that David was thinking along similar lines. I have uploaded a couple of photos and short video (hopefully) with my Lew on the test bench/track.? If they don't appear, I will ask John to do it for me....
Regards, Cliff C
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Re: 00-14 layout at Sydney Exhibition
Michael, I agree with you about this being the best layout at the exhibition. The equipment is all scratch built, all the track was hand laid and the scenery was first class. The one thing that elevated it the the standout category was its shape. It was not a boring straight layout. I was talking to the owner/operator on Saturday and I told him that in my opinion it was the best layout at the exhibition. Saturday night award presentations saw him receive Public Choice, Exhibitors Choice awards. He got two other awards as well. Not sure what these were. Regards, Gary
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From: "Michael Milway" <mjm@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, 2 Oct, 2018 At 9:53 AM
Subject: [o14] 00-14 layout at Sydney Exhibition
I went to the Liverpool (Sydney) model railway exhibition last Sunday. In my opinion the best layout there was "Fingal". This is a layout based on a Tasmanian 3'6'' gauge main line railway. It was modeled in 00 scale using 14mm gauge track. After a couple of seconds of mental arithmetic I realised that this is exact scale/gauge ratio. The only significant difference between his track and mine ( 0 scale 2' gauge) was the flangeway width. The locomotives are powered with BullAnt mechanisms.
The layout is quite large and is very well constructed, sceniced and operated. The correct guage does make the model look so much more realistic.
I haven't come across this combination before. Is it popular? Given that it is also 14mm gauge, it helps broaden the base and therefore safeguards our use of the gauge.
Regards,
Michael Milway
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He still had people thinking it was H0 scale. ? ?
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Re: 00-14 layout at Sydney Exhibition
I have heard that in the past at least, Tasmanian modellers used OO scale and 16.5mm gauge track to model their 3’6” gauge railways. While this is not exact it is closer than using 16.5mm track in OO scale to represent standard gauge. Sounds like someone has taken the next step and gone correct gauge. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Milway
Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2018 9:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [o14] 00-14 layout at Sydney Exhibition ? I went to the Liverpool (Sydney) model railway exhibition last Sunday. In my opinion the best layout there was "Fingal". This is a layout based on a Tasmanian 3'6'' gauge main line railway. It was modeled in 00 scale using 14mm gauge track. After a couple of seconds of mental arithmetic I realised that this is exact scale/gauge ratio. The only significant difference between his track and mine ( 0 scale 2' gauge) was the flangeway width. The locomotives are powered with BullAnt mechanisms.
The layout is quite large and is very well constructed, sceniced and operated. The correct guage does make the model look so much more realistic.
I haven't come across this combination before. Is it popular? Given that it is also 14mm gauge, it helps broaden the base and therefore safeguards our use of the gauge.
Regards,
Michael Milway
PS
He still had people thinking it was H0 scale.
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00-14 layout at Sydney Exhibition
I went to the Liverpool (Sydney) model railway exhibition last Sunday. In my opinion the best layout there was "Fingal". This is a layout based on a Tasmanian 3'6'' gauge main line railway. It was modeled in 00 scale using 14mm gauge track. After a couple of seconds of mental arithmetic I realised that this is exact scale/gauge ratio. The only significant difference between his track and mine ( 0 scale 2' gauge) was the flangeway width. The locomotives are powered with BullAnt mechanisms.
The layout is quite large and is very well constructed, sceniced and operated. The correct guage does make the model look so much more realistic.
I haven't come across this combination before. Is it popular? Given that it is also 14mm gauge, it helps broaden the base and therefore safeguards our use of the gauge.
Regards,
Michael Milway
PS
He still had people thinking it was H0 scale.
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I use ME55 rail soldered to copper clad sleepering, it looks perfect and is very easy to use. Where they can be seen I add cosmetic spikes made from cut down staples fixed in drilled holes. Kay Butler at one time sold copper clad sleepering that had been milled along its length to enable typical corrugated steel sleepers to be replicated easily and it would be nice if this could be reintroduced, however plain sleepers, both steel and (of course) wood, weren’t unusual on the prototype. I have used a mix of KBscale/RCL plastic and copper clad sleepering but the thickness of the plastic ones makes this hard work.
David WOODCOCK
Champlon, Belgique
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Hi David,?
Good to see you active again. Re alternative rail, I personally rather like the Micro Engineering ME55 and ME70 profile rails. They have a very nice flat bottom profile and ME55 scales very close to prototype 20lb. Maybe worth a look but sourcing it from the States may be expensive? Paul Martin at EDM normally stocks it.
All the best and hope to see you soon, James Smith
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 11:18, David Janes < david@...> wrote:
Thanks for all the comments about the rail. I've always thought it could be better to have a lighter profile for industrial track and this would give a nice visual difference to the Kalgarin 82/7.
I will buy a few different types and have a play.
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Thanks for all the comments about the rail. I've always thought it could be better to have a lighter profile for industrial track and this would give a nice visual difference to the Kalgarin 82/7.
I will buy a few different types and have a play.
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Hi Michael,
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Sorry for the delay in replying, I’ve been away in Cornwall enjoying the Launceston Railway amongst other delights.
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Regarding your PS, I reviewed the Dundas OOn3 wheel sets some time back in the IO Groups site:
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/g/o14/wiki/Resources%3A-OOn3-wheel-comparison
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The axles are the same length and diameter to the KB Scale skip chassis wheels and I found them to be interchangeable with no problem.? I did note that the
wheel tread is narrower but I had no problems with a converted skip chassis running through my track work.
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Don’t forget that Mark Clarke (Locos n Stuff) now does 8.5, 9.5, 10.5 and 12mm disc wheels on 2mm diameter axles.
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Cheers,
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Robin
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Michael Milway
Sent: 08 September 2018 12:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [o14] Status of KB Scale
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What is the current status of KB Scale? The web site just says that a new web page is coming.
Regards,
Michael Milway
P.S. Has anyone been successfully using re-gauged Dundas Models wheelsets?
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Hi David and everyone. Great to hear KBscale is coming back.
I've heard conflicting reports about IL-115 being discontinued but I'm sure you are better placed to know. Karlgarin rail is absolutely correct for 'mainline' NG but not light industrial. In fact a lighter rail would be be even better (IL-115 was code 82 IIRC). I used Micro Engineering code 55 on my quarry but it is very soft and wheel flanges can easily hit the spike heads - which were my superfine staple versions.
John
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It's good news that David Janes is planning to reintroduce the KBScale range.
Regarding rail, I've been using the Peco IL1 rail [sold for 00 '3rd rail' and Z gauge track] with good results. The web height and head width are ideal. The foot width is narrower than the previous rail but I had no problems using it in the KB Scale point crossing jigs. I recall its Code 60 rail. It might be better to use this than Karlgarin as you never know if the latter will continue to be available.
David?
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 11:04, George Morris via Groups.Io <drcassiar= [email protected]> wrote: Hi David, et al.
Good to hear from you!?
A couple of suggestions for replacement rail for the old Peco IL-115:
Karlgarin do 3 excellent weights of rail designed specifically?with O scale narrowgauge profile.? The foot is however significantly wider than the Peco rail and would require re-tooling of a number of your products to work.? It does however look good!
C&L finescale make a 4mm scale code 82?flatbottomed rail in steel (4RA101D) which (I think!) has a similar profile to the Peco reail and may be a direct replacement.? I have used it before but it has long separated from its packaging so I'm not sure which one it is!
best regards from Sweden, George!
Hello everyone,
A short update. I moved house at the end of last year with more space for a bigger workshop. Most of KBscale is still packed up as I haven't had time to get the workshop organised yet, but I have made a start. Next on my list is to build an enclosure for the moulding machine compressor and then I will be able to start some production again.
One issue for the future is that the Peco IL-115 rail, that all the track parts are designed around, is no longer available. I will need to investigate alternatives and see if something is going to be suitable.
On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 12:53, Michael Milway < mjm@...> wrote: What is the current status of KB Scale? The web site just says that a new web page is coming.
Regards,
Michael Milway
P.S. Has anyone been successfully using re-gauged Dundas Models wheelsets?
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Hi David, et al.
Good to hear from you!?
A couple of suggestions for replacement rail for the old Peco IL-115:
Karlgarin do 3 excellent weights of rail designed specifically?with O scale narrowgauge profile.? The foot is however significantly wider than the Peco rail and would require re-tooling of a number of your products to work.? It does however look good!
C&L finescale make a 4mm scale code 82?flatbottomed rail in steel (4RA101D) which (I think!) has a similar profile to the Peco reail and may be a direct replacement.? I have used it before but it has long separated from its packaging so I'm not sure which one it is!
best regards from Sweden, George!
From: David Janes <david@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2018, 11:51
Subject: Re: [o14] Status of KB Scale
Hello everyone,
A short update. I moved house at the end of last year with more space for a bigger workshop. Most of KBscale is still packed up as I haven't had time to get the workshop organised yet, but I have made a start. Next on my list is to build an enclosure for the moulding machine compressor and then I will be able to start some production again.
One issue for the future is that the Peco IL-115 rail, that all the track parts are designed around, is no longer available. I will need to investigate alternatives and see if something is going to be suitable.
On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 12:53, Michael Milway < mjm@...> wrote: What is the current status of KB Scale? The web site just says that a new web page is coming.
Regards,
Michael Milway
P.S. Has anyone been successfully using re-gauged Dundas Models wheelsets?
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Hello everyone,
A short update. I moved house at the end of last year with more space for a bigger workshop. Most of KBscale is still packed up as I haven't had time to get the workshop organised yet, but I have made a start. Next on my list is to build an enclosure for the moulding machine compressor and then I will be able to start some production again.
One issue for the future is that the Peco IL-115 rail, that all the track parts are designed around, is no longer available. I will need to investigate alternatives and see if something is going to be suitable.
On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 12:53, Michael Milway < mjm@...> wrote: What is the current status of KB Scale? The web site just says that a new web page is coming.
Regards,
Michael Milway
P.S. Has anyone been successfully using re-gauged Dundas Models wheelsets?
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On 09/09/2018 09:58, Brian Rumary
wrote:
What is the
current status of KB Scale? The web site just says that a new
web page is coming.
I understand that his
wife has serious health problems, which means he has little
free time for dealing with railway kits.
Further to the above I
must put my hands up about a mistake in the above posting. It is
the wife of the owner (Pete McParlin) of Backwoods
Miniatures who has the health problems (dementia) - see his
website - and NOT the owner of KBscale. I have no idea what
personal problems (if any) he has.
Sorry for that.:-[
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Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk
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Agreed. KB Scale was always a pleasure to deal with at exhibitions, and I hope things go well for both of them. Allan
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On 9 Sep 2018, at 13:30, andy binns < binns.andy@...> wrote: Yes, Family must come first. If he reads this, I wish him well and hope that his Wife's health improves. Kind regards Andy On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 at 09:58, B.Rumary < brian@...> wrote:
On 08/09/2018 12:53, Michael Milway
wrote:
What is the current
status of KB Scale? The web site just says that a new web page is
coming.
I understand that his
wife has serious health problems, which means he has little free
time for dealing with railway kits.
--
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)
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Yes, Family must come first. If he reads this, I wish him well and hope that his Wife's health improves. Kind regards Andy
On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 at 09:58, B.Rumary < brian@...> wrote:
On 08/09/2018 12:53, Michael Milway
wrote:
What is the current
status of KB Scale? The web site just says that a new web page is
coming.
I understand that his
wife has serious health problems, which means he has little free
time for dealing with railway kits.
--
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)
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On 08/09/2018 12:53, Michael Milway
wrote:
What is the current
status of KB Scale? The web site just says that a new web page is
coming.
I understand that his
wife has serious health problems, which means he has little free
time for dealing with railway kits.
--
Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk
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Robin Edwards
Allan Dare