Issue 140 has gone to the printers for distribution at the end of the month.
This issue features some of the unusual oddities of the narrow gauge and industrial world, including the remarkable but little known C W Hunt system which adopted outside flanged wheels by design. We also include railcars, traction engine based locos and a model of the first SG diesel shunter in Britain. Less unusual is some classic German Feldbahnen and of course the usual product reviews and readers letters.
Contents:
Charles Hunt’s Innovative Railways?- Martin E Johnston describes the history of this unique outside flange based railway system with plans and drawings
Austin Power?- An English railcar deep in the Swedish woods modelled in 1:45 scale by Tobias Ljung
Marshall 0-4-0TG Locomotive No.1?- Prototype photos taken at Pepper & Son, Amberley in 1959 by Paul Myatt
Scout Moor Tramway Locomotive No.1 Excelsior?- 3ft gauge Aveling & Porter described by Stuart L Baker with prototype photos and 1:32 scale drawing
Tjalve – A Beyer Peacock for Norway?- Modelled in 7mm scale by Ian Middleditch with makers GA drawing
Kerr, Stuart Works No.4421?- Stuart Firth scratch builds this historic SG diesel in EM/4mm scale
Bananen (The Banana)?- Henrik Laurell models this unusual loco in 1:45 scale with prototype photos
Heinrich Müller Kalkwerke?- 600mm gauge classic German Feldbahn prototype photos and map by Col David W Ronald
On 23 Jul 2024, at 14:22, Allan Dare <allan.dare@...> wrote:
?Richard
Thanks, that’s great news! I’ll certainly be in the market for them, plus some more rail.
Allan
On 23 Jul 2024, at 13:04, Richard McLeish <karlgarinmodels@...> wrote:
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G'day Allan,
As the manufacturer of Karlgarin rail, I was disappointed to learn of the demise of the KBscale L&B baseplates. With Phoenix Precision/Permaway, we have made new tooling for these. I now have sample mouldings to hand - there is a minor mod. required to provide
a better fit to the rail. I will post an update when they are ready.
Does anyone have any spare packs of KB Scale Lynton & Barnstaple baseplates they could sell me? Alternatively, does anyone know of a suitable alternative??
On 23 Jul 2024, at 13:04, Richard McLeish <karlgarinmodels@...> wrote:
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G'day Allan,
As the manufacturer of Karlgarin rail, I was disappointed to learn of the demise of the KBscale L&B baseplates. With Phoenix Precision/Permaway, we have made new tooling for these. I now have sample mouldings to hand - there is a minor mod. required to provide
a better fit to the rail. I will post an update when they are ready.
Does anyone have any spare packs of KB Scale Lynton & Barnstaple baseplates they could sell me? Alternatively, does anyone know of a suitable alternative??
As the manufacturer of Karlgarin rail, I was disappointed to learn of the demise of the KBscale L&B baseplates. With Phoenix Precision/Permaway, we have made new tooling for these. I now have sample mouldings to hand - there is a minor mod. required to provide
a better fit to the rail. I will post an update when they are ready.
Does anyone have any spare packs of KB Scale Lynton & Barnstaple baseplates they could sell me? Alternatively, does anyone know of a suitable alternative??
On 22 Jul 2024, at 16:56, Bill Campbell <bill@...> wrote:
?Hi Allan
Palatine Models used to do baseplates for Kalgarin rail but these are not currently listed. ?It may be worth enquiring at:
Regards.
Bill Campbell
On 22 Jul 2024, at 15:43, Allan Dare <allan.dare@...> wrote:
Does anyone have any spare packs of KB Scale Lynton & Barnstaple baseplates they could sell me? Alternatively, does anyone know of a suitable alternative??
On 22 Jul 2024, at 15:43, Allan Dare <allan.dare@...> wrote:
Does anyone have any spare packs of KB Scale Lynton & Barnstaple baseplates they could sell me? Alternatively, does anyone know of a suitable alternative??
Does anyone have any spare packs of KB Scale Lynton & Barnstaple baseplates they could sell me? Alternatively, does anyone know of a suitable alternative??
Just arrived this Am, rails, code 83, from Rails of Sheffield, arrived Sunday. Six panels test build whilst I am on holiday. Just need a baseboard, mdf or sundela.
On 19 Jul 2024, at 16:17, Cliff Stone via groups.io <cliff.cork@...> wrote:
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I just wanted to post a huge thanks to Paul Martin at EDM for all his efforts in support of our gauge. ?My Lionheart loco and coach wheel conversions arrived today and I know it has been a ‘not for profit’ project for Paul. ?His support for our gauge is much appreciated by me and I’m sure many others. ?Thanks Paul?
I just wanted to post a huge thanks to Paul Martin at EDM for all his efforts in support of our gauge. ?My Lionheart loco and coach wheel conversions arrived today and I know it has been a ‘not for profit’ project for Paul. ?His support for our gauge is much appreciated by me and I’m sure many others. ?Thanks Paul?
Review 139?has gone to the printers for distribution at the end of the month.
This issue is a Corris Railway Special. We lead with original research which shines new light on the history of the early Corris Tramroad. We also have an original 1890 specification for the Corris Railway Third-Class Falcon Carriage No.12 with original drawing. We include more Corris inspired modelling in oo9, 7mm, 1:48 and 1:32 scales. To lighten the mix we have Tom Mallard’s completed 7mm scale masterworks of the L&B locos and some archive material from the Arthur Koppel catalogue. We also include news of the forthcoming RTR Corris Loco N.3 in 7mm scale and a review of the Bachmann RTR NG7 Quarry Hunslet, plus the usual jottings and book reviews.
Contents:
Corris Railway Stations at Machynlleth Before Steam?- Original research by MRFS and Dan Quine with maps and prototype photos
Corrish 009?- A Corris inspired stage set by George Williamson
Third-Class Bogie Carriage for the Corris Railway?- 1890 archive specification by Mr J R Dix, Engineer – with original drawing reproduced to 1:32 scale
Cei Ward?- Geoff Evans builds a Corris might-have-been in O16.5
Corris Railway Revisited?- 1:48 and 1:32 modelling by Peter Kazer
Esgairgeiliog?- A 7mm scale project by Paul Holmes
Lynton & Barnstaple Manning Wardle 2-6-2Ts?- Scratch-building excellence in 7mm scale 14mm gauge by Tom Mallard
Arthur Koppel Catalogue?- Archive Material - Haulage Capacity of Locomotives
Review 138?has gone to the printers for distribution at the end of the month.?
This issue starts with a focus on 2ft gauge heavy metal including the extraordinarily powerful J&L Steelworks 0-4-0 Porters designed to haul ingot wagons. We lighten the mix with some small industrial locos. We also have an update on Boston Lodge 1886 4mm scale grand plan and include an article on industrial building painting techniques, plus the usual jottings, book reviews and readers' letters.
Contents:
The Rolling Ingot?- Jones & Laughlin Steel Company 2ft gauge 0-4-0T Porter drawn and described by Stuart L Baker with 1:32 scale drawing and prototype photos
Burma Mines Railway?- A last outpost of 2ft gauge industrial steam with prototype photos and Kerr Stuart Huxley 0-4-2T makers GA drawing
Arthur Koppel Locomotive Catalogue No.786 - Special Types?- Six and eight-coupled engines for 2ft gauge
Some Hudswell Clarke NG Diesels?- Presented by Sydney Leleux with prototype photos
Massive Petrol-Electric Locomotives For Namibia?- 600mm gauge Hanomag Bo-Bo drawn and described by Stuart L Baker with 1:32 scale drawing and prototype photos
Boston Lodge 1886 - The Buildings?- Alastair Steele continues the development of his 4mm scale Festiniog Railway grand plan
Shed Bashing?- Tim Shackleton explains his approach to painting model industrial buildings
Track Studies - Mixed Gauge?- With prototype and model examples by Sydney Leleux
On RG7s the noise is usually the little gear on the motor slipping back. ?Plastic on steel shaft, I loctite mine. It might be worth just pushing it forward a bit. See if that improves it.
On 12 Apr 2024, at 18:09, Paul Holmes <heatonwood@...> wrote:
I have built a Slaters version in 1930s condition and have an early L&B Models one to build which will be in its earliest form. I anticipate getting the new Slater wheels with cranks etc for it when the time comes. They are nicely engineered.?
My one problem was the Slaters SG4 motor and gearbox. It is impossible to assemble as described. I substituted an Portescap RG 4 as the motor can be detached from the gearbox. I think a High Level gearbox and motor would be better actually as the RG4 is
a bit noisy.?
I have built a Slaters version in 1930s condition and have an early L&B Models one to build which will be in its earliest form. I anticipate getting the new Slater wheels with cranks etc for it when the time comes. They are nicely engineered.?
My one problem was the Slaters SG4 motor and gearbox. It is impossible to assemble as described. I substituted an Portescap RG 4 as the motor can be detached from the gearbox. I think a High Level gearbox and motor would be better actually as the RG4 is a bit noisy.?
Thanks for the commendation, David, but I’ve only (almost) built the David Nicholson kit, in Lyn’s 1902-6 livery and condition. The Slater’s kit will be built in late SR condition, but for the time being I’ve barely opened the box. Working in O14 certainly helps - clearances would be decidedly tight in 16.5.
The main problems with the kit are a) folding up the frames; and b) finding somewhere to put the pick-ups, No criticism of David Nicholson’s kit ?intended - the airy bar frames don’t make things easy for a kit designer! Threading the Gibson wheels and gears onto the axles through the frames is difficult, but the Slater’s re-design solves this nicely. Otherwise, ?it goes together well, although the resin castings are a tad delicate, and the finished product does look good.
On 10 Apr 2024, at 20:50, David Hughes <formerchurchwarden@...> wrote:
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One of the differences Slater’s did was to incorporate Dave’s add-on kits into the main model. The kit was a bit unbalanced so Dave lightened parts like the white metal cab roof and put extra weight near the front and back.
I think Allan Dare has built both versions: my L&B one is barely out of the box!
David H
On 10 Apr 2024, at 19:35, Paul Martin <groups2@...> wrote:
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The only Lyn kit I am aware of is one produced by L&B models in 014. This is the kit that after a long period of non availability became the Slaters kit. Wheels gears & motor are pretty much the extent of the changes made by Slaters. It’s 1:43.5 not 1:48.
Alan Gibson did the wheels for the L&B version.
It was, and remains, a challenge to build. Having been designed for 14mm doing to 16.5mm was a real challenge.
L&B models were the work of David Nicholson. He went on to create ZTC DCC. I’m currently regauging three Lionheart 2-6-2’s for him.
The Link/Gibson Link/Gibson models only covered the 2-6-2’s. Each version was quite different. I now own the Gibson designs but have examples of each iteration.
One of the differences Slater’s did was to incorporate Dave’s add-on kits into the main model. The kit was a bit unbalanced so Dave lightened parts like the white metal cab roof and put extra weight near the front and back.
I think Allan Dare has built both versions: my L&B one is barely out of the box!
On 10 Apr 2024, at 19:35, Paul Martin <groups2@...> wrote:
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The only Lyn kit I am aware of is one produced by L&B models in 014. This is the kit that after a long period of non availability became the Slaters kit. Wheels gears & motor are pretty much the extent of the changes made by Slaters. It’s 1:43.5 not 1:48.
Alan Gibson did the wheels for the L&B version.
It was, and remains, a challenge to build. Having been designed for 14mm doing to 16.5mm was a real challenge.
L&B models were the work of David Nicholson. He went on to create ZTC DCC. I’m currently regauging three Lionheart 2-6-2’s for him.
The Link/Gibson Link/Gibson models only covered the 2-6-2’s. Each version was quite different. I now own the Gibson designs but have examples of each iteration.
The only Lyn kit I am aware of is one produced by L&B models in 014. This is the kit that after a long period of non availability became the Slaters kit. Wheels gears & motor are pretty much the extent of the changes made by Slaters. It?�?s 1:43.5 not 1:48. Alan Gibson did the wheels for the L&B version.
It was, and remains, a challenge to build. Having been designed for 14mm doing to 16.5mm was a real challenge.
L&B models were the work of David Nicholson. He went on to create ZTC DCC. I?�?m currently regauging three Lionheart 2-6-2?�?s for him.
The Link/Gibson Link/Gibson models only covered the 2-6-2?�?s. Each version was quite different. I now own the Gibson designs but have examples of each iteration.
The only Lyn kit I am aware of is one produced by L&B models in 014. This is the kit that after a long period of non availability became the Slaters kit. Wheels gears & motor are pretty much the extent of the changes made by Slaters. It’s 1:43.5 not 1:48. Alan Gibson did the wheels for the L&B version.
It was, and remains, a challenge to build. Having been designed for 14mm doing to 16.5mm was a real challenge.
L&B models were the work of David Nicholson. He went on to create ZTC DCC. I’m currently regauging three Lionheart 2-6-2’s for him.
The Link/Gibson Link/Gibson models only covered the 2-6-2’s. Each version was quite different. I now own the Gibson designs but have examples of each iteration.
I recently purchased this locomotive at auction from the estate of Peter Barney, a well known Maine Two Foot author and modeller.?? I understand that the kit version of this loco became what is now the Slater's kit with a modified motor and drive system with Slater's wheels Does anyone know the history of the earlier L&B loco and who was behind it?? From correspondence with Roy Link I know he partnered at one time with Alan Gibson to produce a limited run of 50 L&B kits that featured milled frames, sprung axles and portescap motors and Alan Gibson wheels and that a second version of locos came later from Alan without all those features.?? Was there a third maker of Lynton & Barnstaple 7mm kits?
Allan Dare
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