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Re: Neil Sayer Baldwin 50hp

 

Paul again thank you?
Great info now the wait begins LoL
joe gilmartin?


Re: Neil Sayer Baldwin 50hp

 

Joe, I’m afraid I can’t really remember what the pitfalls were when building them as it’s almost ten years ago. I did one in 014 as Moelwyn running in the 1920s with the fuel tank moved and cab altered slightly. A second for a friend in 0-16.5 with scratchbuilt frame extensions and pony truck for Moelwyn as in 2006. I do remember that you have to follow the instructions very carefully when bending up the frames, I think they are like the Slaters Lyn kit with double thickness nickel silver soldered together like a set of coupling rods. The bonnet comes as a one piece resin moulding which is easy.?

Put the build on NGRM or here.?

Paul?


Re: Neil Sayer Baldwin 50hp

 

This is the motor from High Level. The Mashima is a perfectly good motor, but these are IMHO much better. Almost as good as a Swiss Maxon or Faulhaber at ?60+.?


Re: Neil Sayer Baldwin 50hp

 

Thanks Paul?
?I pulled the trigger this AM and ordered the loco
Now I?need to investigate your suggestion on the Hi Sense 1320 motor at the least I have the 1220 if I don’t have success?
Were there any pitfalls I need to pay attention to?
Thank you for your assistance in this matter?
regards
joe gilmartin?


Re: Neil Sayer Baldwin 50hp

 

I built two but it is some years ago now. I think a motor came with it back then. It is an excellent straightforward kit. The bits all fit properly and there’s a proper etched bar frame chassis. As easy to build to 14mm as 16.5 gauge.?

Personally I wouldn’t use an old Mashima as the reason to buy the kit. Snap it up while you can, the kits ?have been out of stock for years now. I would put a High Level HL 1320 in it. Twice as powerful and far better slow running than the mashima ?

Paul?


Re: Neil Sayer Baldwin 50hp

 

I'm going to be interested in following this as I've got an unmade kit which I need to get started soon.
John


Neil Sayer Baldwin 50hp

 

Hey Guy
Found a old Mashima 12x20 motor in the drawer and wondered if anyone had any experience building the Sayer Baldwin 50 hp kit in O14 (before I buy the kit?
look for any info you folks may have?
?Thanks?
joe gilmartin


Re: Rhyd website revamped!

 

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I don't like cleaning up my workbench, but tonight was (going to be) the night. It hasn't happened, I've spent the evening in North Wales. Much more enjoyable!

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Some years ago I walked down from Blaneau, past the sewage works and out to the old quarry by the top end of the tunnel. I then walked back into Tan-y-grisiau to catch a bus into Blaneau. There is a bus shelter, and a timetable, but there was no bus. I found out later that the operator had decided to stop running it months before. So I walked through the backstreets of Tan-y-grisiau. In the first few sections of David's images I felt I was doing it again. My feet ache! Modelling buildings is one thing, modelling atmosphere is something quite different. I'm back in Wales again.

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David has gone to no small effort to put this site together, you want a few hours to make the best of it.

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Thanks

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Frank


Re: Rhyd website revamped!

 

Bookmarked, thanks for sharing.


Re: Rhyd website revamped!

 

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Ditto what Simon said.

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Cheers, Robin

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Simon Jones
Sent: 20 August 2022 18:04
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [o14] Rhyd website revamped!

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It’s looking good, will lose a few more hours (re)reading that?

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Cheers

Simon



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Re: Rhyd website revamped!

 

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It’s looking good, will lose a few more hours (re)reading that?

Cheers
Simon

On Aug 20, 2022, at 12:13 PM, David John via groups.io <davidphillipjohn@...> wrote:

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Hi All

I am very pleased to say that I have finally updated the Rhyd website after all the hiatus of a house move, Covid and rebuilding the railway.?

The site has new sections, many new pages, galleries and photographs.? There is now a scattering of videos and an insight into the everyday lives of the Rhyd folk.? There is even a page highlighting the new stuff.

The Sources page has been reinstated along with the facilty to e-mail me through the website- both had disappeared, I know not how..

Please visit, explore and enjoy



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David

Website: www.rhyd.weebly.com


Rhyd website revamped!

 

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Hi All

I am very pleased to say that I have finally updated the Rhyd website after all the hiatus of a house move, Covid and rebuilding the railway.?

The site has new sections, many new pages, galleries and photographs.? There is now a scattering of videos and an insight into the everyday lives of the Rhyd folk.? There is even a page highlighting the new stuff.

The Sources page has been reinstated along with the facilty to e-mail me through the website- both had disappeared, I know not how..

Please visit, explore and enjoy



--

David

Website: www.rhyd.weebly.com


Re: N Lawton Simplex

 

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Thanks Joe, excellent progress and it’s all looking very good.

Cheers, Robin

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jogil476 via groups.io
Sent: 23 July 2022 21:37
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [o14] N Lawton Simplex

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Robin?
You can also see it at MCTL on Facebook?
joe


Re: N Lawton Simplex

 

Robin?
You can also see it at MCTL on Facebook?
joe


Re: N Lawton Simplex

 

Robin?
Thanks much I’ve got the same sheet lead (don’t know where I got it) that and ?some liquid lead under gets me to about 10g
Do you use the lead sheets under the flat cars too I’m building a man rider and it weighs nothing ?lol
?I’m presently dealing with Mark Clark I believe I can get the axles from him
I have started a small layout been building locos wagons a few structures and started laying some track you can see what little progress I’ve made at Moskito Coast Transfer Line on Facebook
Agin thanks for the help,info,and inspiration
regards
joe gilmartin?
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Re: N Lawton Simplex

 

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Hi Joe,

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I don’t have a common weight but the attached photo shows what I can typically fit in the floor of all but the skip wagons.? Thin strips of lead cut so they don’t foul the wheels.? This rake of three ammunition wagons weighs 32g so each wagon is about 10g.? Not much weight is needed but I find the wagons shunt better if they do have a little bit in them.? The skip wagons are harder and the tank wagons benefit from a bit of weight inside the oil drums before you glue the lids on, otherwise you have to drill a hole in the bottom and try to pour in some liquid lead.? Don’t ask how I know this!? I have some thin self-adhesive lead strip which is just over the width of a skip body and have added that inside and attempted to dress the edges so that it is not obvious.

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Regarding axles for the Simplex chassis, I would use 2mm diameter ground silver steel rod if you can get it.? I would cut the axles about 19.5mm long which will give a bit sticking out from each wheel. ?It sounds odd but I have found it looks better on the loco body as it looks like the axles go into the axle boxes rather than just stop at the wheels.? The Simplex was designed for 016.5 and supplied with that length of axle.

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I retro-fitted my KB Scale chassis to an already built body and found that I needed to cut away some of the inside of the engine castings.? Trimming the castings would probably have been easier before they were fitted.

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I pretty much made up my coach conversion as I went along but I took inspiration from Paul Lindsey-Scott’s Brookford articles in the Review and also his thread on the Narrow Gauge Railway Modelling Forum ??

Which is free to join and has provided me with lots of help, information and inspiration.

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The one thing I found with my coach was that standard 016.5 bogies were a bit too wide and didn’t have enough swing for my sharp curves.? I ended up using some Sn3 bogies from PBL in the States.

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Cheers, Robin ?


Re: N Lawton Simplex

 

Robin?
Thank you again for your help the seat back is where my confusion exists so I believe your post to be very helpful?
Tony’s Forrest has been a inspiration for me your wonderful work explanations and photos have been essential in both my layout construction wagon building and locomotive work?
A couple of other questions for you if you have the time?
I have a struggle weighing my wagons is there a common weight you try to achieve?
The larger wagons are not a problem but flat car skips and empty skips seem very difficult to weight?
Also I purchased a KB motorizing kit for the Wrigtlines Simplex from Light Railway Stores that came without axles I’ve e-mailed the 3 times with no response any ideas?
Lastly is there a article about kit bashing the Bachmann Trolley into passenger car somewhere?

sorry for taking up so much of your time and thank you ever so much again for your assistance?

regards
J Gilmartin?


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Hi Joe,

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From memory the seat base (B29) is folded into a square and attached to the footplate (for want of a better description) this hides the chassis fixing not.? The seat top (B31) is curved to fit the seat base with the two little holes at the back.? These holes take the seat back (B30) which is very delicate.? This part has a large square sacrificial support at the bottom and the seat back cross member at the top.? The cross member is folded 180 degrees back away from the half etch lines and soldered to the two thin uprights.? Then you can remove the big sacrificial square which should leave you with a ‘U’ shape of the cross member in front of the two legs.? The bottom of these legs locate in the two holes in the seat top.

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I hope that helps a bit.

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Cheers, Robin

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jogil476 via groups.io
Sent: 20 July 2022 12:53
To: [email protected]
Subject: [o14] N Lawton Simplex

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Hello again?
I find myself stymied once again on my Simplex build hopefully someone can help me?
I don’t understand how the seat back is folded and being a very thin part I don’t want to do the wrong thing and end up destroying the part
Ive looked at pics including Robins version and still find myself unsure?
thanks again for all the previous info and aid
joe Gilmartin?
NMRA
7mm NGA
Moskito Coast Transfer Line


N Lawton Simplex

 

Hello again?
I find myself stymied once again on my Simplex build hopefully someone can help me?
I don’t understand how the seat back is folded and being a very thin part I don’t want to do the wrong thing and end up destroying the part
Ive looked at pics including Robins version and still find myself unsure?
thanks again for all the previous info and aid
joe Gilmartin?
NMRA
7mm NGA
Moskito Coast Transfer Line


Re: Narrow Gauge & Industrial Railway Modelling REVIEW

 

Review 131 is now at the printers ready for distribution at the end of the month.



This issue has a large focus on the Isle of Purbeck with two layouts and three drawings of prototypes. We continue the story of the Anyox mine as featured in issues 129 and 130. We also have a look at hazard markings with prototype photos and techniques and discuss the thorny issue of scales and gauges. Finally as usual we include previously unpublished prototype photos of narrow gauge and industrial subjects.?The contents are:

  • Newton Heath Works?- A 7mm scale narrow (16.2mm) and standard gauge Dorset clay layout built by Martin Finney and Mike Baker
  • Fayles Tramway Clay Wagon?- Drawn and described by Stuart L Baker with 1:32 scale drawing and prototype photos
  • Hi-Vis Locomotives?- Sydney A Leleux explores the introduction of safety painting on the industrial scene with prototype photos
  • Peckett Locomotives of the Furzebrook Railway?- Sextus & Septimus drawn and described by Stuart L Baker with 7mm scale drawings and prototype photos
  • Anyox Mine - The Layout?- Gerald Harper describes how he built his On3 British Columbian layout
  • Chattenden & Upnor?- Prototype photos from the camera of Paul Myatt
  • A Way with Wasps?- Tim Shackleton descibes his techniques for adding hazard markings to a 4mm scale SG industrial loco
  • Goathorn?- A 7mm scale 26.25mm gauge recreation of the 3ft 9ins gauge Fayles Tramway by Peter Hollins
  • Of Scales and Gauges and Time?- Peter Kazer discusses one of the perennial issues faced by NG modellers
  • A Problem of Scale?- David Hughes shares his angst
  • Potters Bar Mainline Tunnel Contract?- Prototype photos of a line up of industrial locos of Paul Myatt
  • And the usual editorial, product news, reviews and readers letters
John