Re: Micro Engineering spikes and basswood
Hi Kelvin,
I'm not sure if EDM models does the spikes. Don't forget you can always make your own from staples. My simple method is described in my trackwork articles here:??and Roy described a more sophisticated technique in issue 122.?
If you can't find correct size timber then it is possible to get some custom cut which is what I had to do for the SR period Lynton layout a few years back. At the time I used a wonderful company called Twigfolly but the guy has now retired, but I think these also will do it:?
Please keep us updated on your progress.
John
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Micro Engineering spikes and basswood
I’m about to start on my Manx O21 project. I will be hand laying the track using Kalgarren code 100 FB rail. Is there a UK source for Micro Engineering spikes and 2mm basswood that I can cut up for sleepers.
thanks.?
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LLechwedd Electrics, The Eclipse and The Coalition.
Hi all.
Having seen the super article and drawings in the latest review I am minded, as they say, to progress a project that I have been toying with for years. ?There is an N Brass kit for The Eclipse which I shall order shortly. I have never seen any drawings for The Coalition until now. ?So, with permissions from John C and more importantly Stuart Baker, the drawings have been sent to Allen Doherty who has agreed to draw up a scratch aid kit for it. ?
I will let the group know how things progress.
Cheers
Paul?
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Re: Narrow Gauge & Industrial Railway Modelling REVIEW
Issue 125 should now be on its way, however I'm not sure how long it will take to get around the world what with Brexit and this global pandemic. Please let us know if you're attempting a model of the train ferry.
John
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Re: Narrow Gauge & Industrial Railway Modelling REVIEW
Issue 125 is now at the printers for distribution later this month. This is?a special edition for?our dear friend and editor Roy?who passed away on November 20th 2020.?The contents are:?
- Roy Charles Link 1947-2020?- Obituary and tribute with list of works etc.
- Beamish Tool Van?- Paul Jarman describes his seven-eighth scale (1:13·7) model and the full-size version it inspired
- Green Energy Recycled Locomotives Of Llechwedd?- Stuart L Baker draws and describes The Coalition and Eclipse with photos and 1:32 scale drawings
- Severn Mill?- John Brookes describes his O16·5 factory complex module with track plan
- J?ssen Train Ferry?- Photos and recollections from Col David W Ronald on this unusual German 60cm gauge prototype
And the usual editorial, news & jottings and product reviews.
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On 29/12/2020 18:29, Frank Sharp via
groups.io wrote:
An
analogy might be those dreadful slow start bulbs that Tony Blair
foisted onto the long suffering British public when the future
was already obviously LED both in terms of starting, brightness,
colour and much lower power consumption and much longer life.
At that time LED bulbs
were either not in serious production or VERY expensive (?25+
per bulb as I recall) - I'm not exactly sure after all this
time.
Also "compact
florescent" bulbs, which is what I think you meant, got much
better with time, with much less flickering, much faster start
up, and whiter light output.
Like all new
technology, there are steady improvements over time, until the
tech reaches a "plateau" with little further improvement, until
a better technology comes along. For example flat-screen TVs,
electric cars, computers, mobile phones, etc. Remember those
HUGE mobile phones that "yuppies" (and Dell Boy) had in the
1980s?
And of coarse diesel
replacing steam, and road trucks replacing rail freight (ducks
for cover) ?
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Brian Rumary
England
brian(at)rumary.co.uk
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Yes of course I am a member (and with a membership number of 81 it is just possible that I have been a member longer than you Adrian) and I read your bit in the Narrow Lines trade news although I had already heard from elsewhere. Whilst it was good news to learn that the new owner is already well established, I did wonder if he realises just what he was taking on. I don’t know who it is although, given the small field, it would be easy to speculate, but I have no intention of doing so publicly. Even getting a small proportion of Adrian’s 7mm kits back into manufacture, at least to the high standard that Adrian achieved, is going to be no mean task.
Happy New Year (well at least as happy as it can be)
David WOODCOCK
Champlon, Belgique
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David,
Yes, I do. However, I promised the new owner I would not go public until he was ready, as he has lots to deal with and does not want to be distracted by fielding enquiries. As I wrote in a recent Trade News for the 7mm NGA Narrow News (not a member?? why not?) the new owner is already an established and reputable supplier to modellers in 7mm scale.
Adrian Chairman & Trade Liaison, 7mm NGA
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Hi all,
I totally agree with Frank that white-metal or similar is completely unsuitable for waggly bits on model locomotives, however I don't totally share his views on 3D printing being a substitute for casting. At this stage 3D printing still seems to require either a printer that is beyond most hobbyist modellers budget to turn out a body of the same quality as a cast model, or, it can produce quality, but the time it takes to do so is inordinately long, and hence is really only suitable for one offs.? (Now I must stress at this point I have not had the chance to view one of Paul Martin's models of the Fletcher Jennings, so maybe I am just too out of date with my knowledge. )? Commercially produced bodies, ie. Shap***s are rather expensive for what they are, and it appears a lot of what is on offer on their website was drawn up in the early years of 3D printing and never upgraded. There are some loco bodies on there that must have footplates at least a scale 9 inches thick.
Frank also touches on another related area, and it's this one that I think will ensure kits will continue to be offered, the pleasure of actually building something. Sitting at the workbench building a model, is for the majority of my modelling cohorts the most pleasurable aspect of the hobby, (with one notable exception,) running the models is definitely secondary.? Buying, or drawing up and printing, a 3D body, and just sticking it on a chassis, just doesn't cut it in comparison with a decent kit when it comes to personal satisfaction.? ?
Cheers
Ian J??
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I think we'd all like to see them come back onto the market. If you take the attitude that they are a kit from which you can build into good model rather than just putting a kit together they do make a decent representation of a prototype. I think it was David Jenkinson who differentiated between building a kit and building a model from a kit. I used to be able to buy a Keyser kit on Saturday and take it to the club running and painted on Wednesday night, dread to think now what they looked like. Wrightlines kits were however multimedia and nominally complete. White metal castings, sometimes some lost wax brass, a bit of etch and a milled if basic chassis. I rather enjoy 'getting the bits in', it means I can substitute a better motor, gearbox, details but many want it all in the box. What I hate is a complete kit with white metal moving or delicate parts, or having to solder 6 etches on top of each other to make what should have been a casting. However you might wonder if the age of the white metal kit could be passing. Now that resin printers are managing reasonable definition and it will only get better/cheaper and that you can work from a drawing rather than having to build masters that might be the? future. An analogy might be those dreadful slow start bulbs that Tony Blair foisted onto the long suffering British public when the future was already obviously LED both in terms of starting, brightness, colour and much lower power consumption and much longer life. ? Hope this makes sense, I'm struggling with a dyslexic keyboard. ? Frank ?
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Sent: Tuesday, 29 December, 2020 17:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [o14] Wrightlines Models? David WOODCOCK, is correct.? What he says appeared as a statement withing the 7mm NGA as part of the 7mm NGA announcing that it had, wisely, decided not to pursue the range. Their position was that they would have stepped into safe it but that it was far better for it to go to a commercial operation. ? What Colin reports is typical of my own relatively recent dealings with Adrian and what others also report. It may or may not have anything to do the quality of the rubber (given you don’t hear other caster whining about it but it has a lot to do with Adrian’s CBA in recent years and, as the tale/reason varied with the person asking the question or trying to get him to produce kit x, y or z and was probably his polite version of “beggar of and stop bothering me” ? Paul Martin ? ? I am not sure (if anyone)has purchased them at present. I spoke to the guy who has purchased the Trams and road vehicles kits, but he did say he avoided the railway stuff as it was not something he wanted to be involved with. Sometime ago I did ask Adrian about the Ambrico Isle of Man 00n3 kit, but all he said was it was difficult to get the right grade of rubber for the moulds, he went on to say, that he was spending more time making new moulds from inferior grade rubber and this was only lasting from 10 to 20 mouldings before it was no good. ? The normal rubber so he told me that he was using, lasted about 50 times longer in the moulding process. ? I am not an expert on the moulding process so I don’t know if this is a good or bad result for moulding white metal castings, maybe someone could tell us. ? Colin Rainsbury ? ? Colin Rainsbury ? ? My understanding is that whoever took it over, with, I believe, at least some others of the various erstwhile ABS 7mm marques, doesn’t wish to be identified until such time as he(she?) is in a position to actually retail at least a reasonable portion of the range. Having known Adrian for donkey’s years, before ABS started in fact, and consequently being aware just how difficult things were getting even before Kay gave up (she retailed the whole range as well as having Wrightlines as her particular baby), I wish the new owner well but I suspect that it will be some time before retailing becomes possible again. I think that the 7mm NGA committee were extremely wise not to get involved with the range this time round.
David WOODCOCK
Champlon, Belgique
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David WOODCOCK, is correct.? What he says appeared as a statement withing the 7mm NGA as part of the 7mm NGA announcing that it had, wisely, decided not to pursue the range. Their position was that they would have stepped into safe it but that it was far better for it to go to a commercial operation. ? What Colin reports is typical of my own relatively recent dealings with Adrian and what others also report. It may or may not have anything to do the quality of the rubber (given you don’t hear other caster whining about it but it has a lot to do with Adrian’s CBA in recent years and, as the tale/reason varied with the person asking the question or trying to get him to produce kit x, y or z and was probably his polite version of “beggar of and stop bothering me” ? Paul Martin ?
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Sent: 29 December 2020 16:09
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [o14] Wrightlines Models? I am not sure (if anyone)has purchased them at present. I spoke to the guy who has purchased the Trams and road vehicles kits, but he did say he avoided the railway stuff as it was not something he wanted to be involved with. Sometime ago I did ask Adrian about the Ambrico Isle of Man 00n3 kit, but all he said was it was difficult to get the right grade of rubber for the moulds, he went on to say, that he was spending more time making new moulds from inferior grade rubber and this was only lasting from 10 to 20 mouldings before it was no good. ? The normal rubber so he told me that he was using, lasted about 50 times longer in the moulding process. ? I am not an expert on the moulding process so I don’t know if this is a good or bad result for moulding white metal castings, maybe someone could tell us. ? Colin Rainsbury ? ? Colin Rainsbury ? ? My understanding is that whoever took it over, with, I believe, at least some others of the various erstwhile ABS 7mm marques, doesn’t wish to be identified until such time as he(she?) is in a position to actually retail at least a reasonable portion of the range. Having known Adrian for donkey’s years, before ABS started in fact, and consequently being aware just how difficult things were getting even before Kay gave up (she retailed the whole range as well as having Wrightlines as her particular baby), I wish the new owner well but I suspect that it will be some time before retailing becomes possible again. I think that the 7mm NGA committee were extremely wise not to get involved with the range this time round.
David WOODCOCK
Champlon, Belgique
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I
am not sure (if anyone)has purchased them at present. I spoke to
the guy who has purchased the Trams and road vehicles kits, but he did say he
avoided the railway stuff as it was not something he wanted to be involved
with.
Sometime ago I did ask
Adrian about the Ambrico Isle of Man 00n3 kit, but all he said was it was
difficult to get the right grade of rubber for the moulds, he went on to say,
that he was spending more time making new moulds from inferior grade rubber and
this was only lasting from 10 to 20 mouldings before it was no good.
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The normal rubber so he
told me that he was using, lasted about 50 times longer in the moulding process.
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I am not an expert on the
moulding process so I don’t know if this is a good or bad result for moulding
white metal castings, maybe someone could tell us.
Colin Rainsbury
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Colin Rainsbury
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My understanding is that whoever took it over, with, I believe, at least some others of the various erstwhile ABS 7mm marques, doesn’t wish to be identified until such time as he(she?) is in a position to actually retail at least a reasonable portion of the range. Having known Adrian for donkey’s years, before ABS started in fact, and consequently being aware just how difficult things were getting even before Kay gave up (she retailed the whole range as well as having Wrightlines as her particular baby), I wish the new owner well but I suspect that it will be some time before retailing becomes possible again. I think that the 7mm NGA committee were extremely wise not to get involved with the range this time round.
David WOODCOCK
Champlon, Belgique
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My understanding is that whoever took it over, with, I believe, at least some others of the various erstwhile ABS 7mm marques, doesn’t wish to be identified until such time as he(she?) is in a position to actually retail at least a reasonable portion of the range. Having known Adrian for donkey’s years, before ABS started in fact, and consequently being aware just how difficult things were getting even before Kay gave up (she retailed the whole range as well as having Wrightlines as her particular baby), I wish the new owner well but I suspect that it will be some time before retailing becomes possible again. I think that the 7mm NGA committee were extremely wise not to get involved with the range this time round.
David WOODCOCK
Champlon, Belgique
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Anyone know who took over the Wrightlines NG models range?
David?
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Good luck with the move John and welcome to the sunny South-West! ?
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From: "John C via groups.io" <jclutterbuck2001@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, 28 Nov, 20 At 13:58
Subject: [o14] PLR on the move
Along with having to take over full editorship of the REVIEW after the sad passing of my dear friend Roy we have to get prepared for our move to Devon. We have a lot of stuff after 30 years in our current house including of course the PLR. I've just added some photos of it before dismantling on my blog and will update this as packing and moving progresses.
John
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John,
Would you like me to make a 1:1 scale model of your water tank, so the PLR has something to sit on? Failing that, I can ask if Jan and Steve Gardiner are available to sit underneath like at ExpoNG!
David
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Along with having to take over full editorship of the REVIEW after the sad passing of my dear friend Roy we have to get prepared for our move to Devon. We have a lot of stuff after 30 years in our current house including of course the PLR. I've just added
some photos of it before dismantling on my blog??and will update this as packing and moving progresses.
John
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