Re: Chemin de fer du calvados
The Calvados system was featured in a 3-part series in the French regional railways magazine Chemin de fer Regionaux et Urbains in 1984 (issues 179-181). Issue 181 dealt with locos and rolling stock and featured a side-elevation only view of the Type 74 Blanc-Misseron 4-6-0T locos (and also the conventional Wiedkneckt 4-6-0T.?
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Yes that’s correct isolating gaps between the switch rails and the frog and yes always connected to its corresponding switch rail.?
I’ve built points this way in most gauges from 2mm fine scale up to scale7 including 009, 5.5mm and 014
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On 18 Apr 2020, at 21:50, toones4 <phil.toone@...> wrote:
? Thanks Simon and David for the very useful information. ? David, am I right in saying that your turnouts have the switch rails connected to the frog (crossing) assembly by wire links at the pivot points so the frog and both switch rails (point blades) change polarity when the point is thrown.? I assume you have not had problems with the back of a wheel creating a short across the gap between stock rail and the open point blade? ? Simon, can I just clarify that you have isolating gaps between the frog and the switch rails and each switch rail is electrically connected to its stock rail via the copper clad sleeper so one switch rail is always –ve and the other always +ve? ? Many thanks again Regards Phil ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Rae
Sent: 18 April 2020 12:50
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [o14] Turnout wiring ? I built 5 points for my 'Bunny Mine' layout using the Roy Link type 2 plans but copper-clad sleepers. The frog and switch rails are live. The polarity is switched either by a slider switch which controls the point via 'wire in tube' or in one case via a rocker switch from a point control rod. A photo of one point pre-installation attached.? Further details available if you are interested, there is a thread on NGRM. ? Phil, When I first started build points I used a sleeper made of copper clad either side of any isolating gaps to hold the rails in place with solder and then put cosmetic chairs in the right position to achieve that all charged look. These days I use brass chairs and solder them to the sleeper strip to achieve the same result.? I, as you have mentioned, keep the frog/crossing assembly as one unit and have the switch rails soldered to the CC sleeper strip to hold in place and cut the strip to provide the isolation gap in between them. This strip is then in turned soldered to the stock rail to achieve the power feed aspect of it.? Switch rail wise I use a thinner section of The strip to solder the switch rails to a the tiebar and just cut the strip close to each rail to achieve the gap needed. ? ?Hi everyone, hope you are all keeping safe? I am hoping someone may be able to help with my current (no pun intended!) wiring dilemma. I am in the early stages of building a small o14 layout using Roy Link/KB Scale trackwork in the visible areas and hand built copper clad track using RL/KB templates off scene.? What I am struggling with is how to wire up the turnouts for DC and DCC.? I understand the basics but can't work out how Roy intended them to be wired? I assume as he used a brass tie bar both point blades are the same polarity and rely on contact with the stock rails to transmit power.? I note from the point building details on KB Scale's website, that the frog should be provided with a feed wire. I wish to use a Tortoise motor to switch frog polarity and also wish to provide power to the point blades in order not to rely on contact with the stock rails for power transmission. I cannot work out from the turnout building instructions whether the frog is electrically connected to the point blades at the pivot points or isolated. I was thinking the ideal way to wire the turnout would be the same as the recommended method of converting Peco Electrofrog points i.e. by electrically isolating the frog from the point blades and switching its polarity via the point motor auxiliary switches and then electrically bonding each point blade to its stock rail.? This would mean that each point blade is a fixed polarity eliminating any chance of the back of a wheel shorting across the point gap. The problem I foresee with this method, particularly on the RL/KB type 1 turnout (only 63mm in length) is the lack of sleepers to support the frog and point blades each side of the isolating gap between them. Also, the tie bar would have to be replaced with a non conductive material.
I would appreciate any comments, constructive criticism, pointing (!!) in the right direction (or even "what are you on about" type questions) etc. TIA
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Thanks Simon and David for the very useful information. ? David, am I right in saying that your turnouts have the switch rails connected to the frog (crossing) assembly by wire links at the pivot points so the frog and both switch rails (point blades) change polarity when the point is thrown.? I assume you have not had problems with the back of a wheel creating a short across the gap between stock rail and the open point blade? ? Simon, can I just clarify that you have isolating gaps between the frog and the switch rails and each switch rail is electrically connected to its stock rail via the copper clad sleeper so one switch rail is always –ve and the other always +ve? ? Many thanks again Regards Phil ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Rae
Sent: 18 April 2020 12:50
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [o14] Turnout wiring ? I built 5 points for my 'Bunny Mine' layout using the Roy Link type 2 plans but copper-clad sleepers. The frog and switch rails are live. The polarity is switched either by a slider switch which controls the point via 'wire in tube' or in one case via a rocker switch from a point control rod. A photo of one point pre-installation attached.? Further details available if you are interested, there is a thread on NGRM. ? Phil, When I first started build points I used a sleeper made of copper clad either side of any isolating gaps to hold the rails in place with solder and then put cosmetic chairs in the right position to achieve that all charged look. These days I use brass chairs and solder them to the sleeper strip to achieve the same result.? I, as you have mentioned, keep the frog/crossing assembly as one unit and have the switch rails soldered to the CC sleeper strip to hold in place and cut the strip to provide the isolation gap in between them. This strip is then in turned soldered to the stock rail to achieve the power feed aspect of it.? Switch rail wise I use a thinner section of The strip to solder the switch rails to a the tiebar and just cut the strip close to each rail to achieve the gap needed. ? ?Hi everyone, hope you are all keeping safe? I am hoping someone may be able to help with my current (no pun intended!) wiring dilemma. I am in the early stages of building a small o14 layout using Roy Link/KB Scale trackwork in the visible areas and hand built copper clad track using RL/KB templates off scene.? What I am struggling with is how to wire up the turnouts for DC and DCC.? I understand the basics but can't work out how Roy intended them to be wired? I assume as he used a brass tie bar both point blades are the same polarity and rely on contact with the stock rails to transmit power.? I note from the point building details on KB Scale's website, that the frog should be provided with a feed wire. I wish to use a Tortoise motor to switch frog polarity and also wish to provide power to the point blades in order not to rely on contact with the stock rails for power transmission. I cannot work out from the turnout building instructions whether the frog is electrically connected to the point blades at the pivot points or isolated. I was thinking the ideal way to wire the turnout would be the same as the recommended method of converting Peco Electrofrog points i.e. by electrically isolating the frog from the point blades and switching its polarity via the point motor auxiliary switches and then electrically bonding each point blade to its stock rail.? This would mean that each point blade is a fixed polarity eliminating any chance of the back of a wheel shorting across the point gap. The problem I foresee with this method, particularly on the RL/KB type 1 turnout (only 63mm in length) is the lack of sleepers to support the frog and point blades each side of the isolating gap between them. Also, the tie bar would have to be replaced with a non conductive material.
I would appreciate any comments, constructive criticism, pointing (!!) in the right direction (or even "what are you on about" type questions) etc. TIA
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Thanks Roy,
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I had a feeling that they were mastered by Vic Green but wasn’t confident enough to make the statement.? My discussions with Russell
not only seem a long time ago, but I now realise that they were a long time ago!?
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Robin
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Sent: 18 April 2020 14:41
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Robin,
The master patterns for the 7mm scale VoR 2-6-2T were made by Vic Green for Russell Wright. As noted, this was thirty years or so ago. No chassis was ever made and Russell struggled with sourcing wheels etc., so it never got done. I assume
the patterns passed along with everything else ‘Wrightlines’ to Kay Butler and thence to Adrian Swain.
Vic Green was a professional modelmaker who worked for British Railways (Exhibition section) - later going self employed, which was when he made the patterns for the VoR loco. There is an article about Vic in?Model Railways?magazine,
July 1973. Having seen his work, I can say with confidence that the patterns would have been of top quality - and would still be viable today if they could be located and a chassis created.
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I think the body masters were produced but the chassis and valve gear were proving to be a bit of a challenge. ?I am sure the masters were in a photo in an article about Wrightlines in an early NG&IRM Review.
Robin
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Woodcock
Sent: 17 April 2020 14:39
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Subject: Re: [o14] Something to do in these difficult times - RCL & NGI Competition
Although it wasn’t a particular interest of mine, I do remember Kay telling me that she had someone producing masters for a white-metal kit of a VoR tank but that, even then (20 years ago?), not a lot seemed to be forthcoming. I suspect that the VoR tanks are
not an easy subject to model.
David Woodcock
Champlon, Belgique
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Sorin,
You will not do any better than using the Swindon Works drawings - produced specifically for the building of the replacement VoR locomotives by the Great Western Railway in 1923. Drawing No.70560 (lo t277) comprises the general arrangement, frames and cross sections and is drawn to a scale of 1 1/2 inches to the foot. These were reproduced in issue 76 of NG&IRM REVIEW and, while this is now oop, copies of the relevant pagers, 153-159 (Vol.10) can be had from NG&I.
Besides three pages of drawings, there are numerous detail photographs, plus a history of the VoR 2-6-2T loco. While I hold physical copies of the drawings mentioned they are too big to copy at ?present due to the necessary restrictions we are all subject to.
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As this is my first post here, please let me introduce myself.
My name is Sorin Anghel, I live in Bucharest, Romania and I am a long time modeller. My primary scale is HO (and HOe for narrow gauge) but I am increasingly attracted by O14. Several british made locomotives were used in Romania on 600 mm track, so I have plenty of subjects to think about.
If you wish to see my previous works, I have a blog where I show my models () but it is only written in Romanian. Usually I document my models with lots of photos, though. As I have developed in recent years several etched brass kits, I think maybe this is a real opportunity for me to launch in O14. And I mean the Valley of Rheidol locomotives. I do like the model very much, and I hope to be able to produce a high quality kit for it. I am currently using CAD design and my models have also 3d printed parts.
So, in order to get started ?I want to ask you if you know where I can find detailed documentation about these locomotives, maybe some drawings. Many thanks in advance.
Stay safe,
Sorin
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On 18 April 2020, at 14:41, Roy Link <royclink@...> wrote:
Robin,
The master patterns for the 7mm scale VoR 2-6-2T were made by Vic Green for Russell Wright. As noted, this was thirty years or so ago. No chassis was ever made and Russell struggled with sourcing wheels etc., so it never got done. I assume the patterns passed along with everything else ‘Wrightlines’ to Kay Butler and thence to Adrian Swain.
Vic Green was a professional modelmaker who worked for British Railways (Exhibition section) - later going self employed, which was when he made the patterns for the VoR loco. There is an article about Vic in?Model Railways?magazine, July 1973. Having seen his work, I can say with confidence that the patterns would have been of top quality - and would still be viable today if they could be located and a chassis created.
RCL
I think the body masters were produced but the chassis and valve gear were proving to be a bit of a challenge. ?I am sure the masters were in a photo in an article about Wrightlines in an early NG&IRM Review. Robin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Woodcock Sent: 17 April 2020 14:39 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [o14] Something to do in these difficult times - RCL & NGI Competition Although it wasn’t a particular interest of mine, I do remember Kay telling me that she had someone producing masters for a white-metal kit of a VoR tank but that, even then (20 years ago?), not a lot seemed to be forthcoming. I suspect that the VoR tanks are not an easy subject to model. David Woodcock Champlon, Belgique
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Hi Sorin,
Welcome to the group, the company I work for has a shared services office in Iasi, I always enjoy going there and I get well looked after.?
Narrow Gauge Railways in Mid Wales (1850-1870) by James I C Boyd has drawings of both the Davies & Metcalfe version and Swindon built locos along with some useful photographs.
Not sure of the availability of this publication.?
Regards,
Mark.?
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Re: Something to do in these difficult times - RCL & NGI Competition
Robin,
The master patterns for the 7mm scale VoR 2-6-2T were made by Vic Green for Russell Wright. As noted, this was thirty years or so ago. No chassis was ever made and Russell struggled with sourcing wheels etc., so it never got done. I assume the patterns passed along with everything else ‘Wrightlines’ to Kay Butler and thence to Adrian Swain.
Vic Green was a professional modelmaker who worked for British Railways (Exhibition section) - later going self employed, which was when he made the patterns for the VoR loco. There is an article about Vic in?Model Railways?magazine, July 1973. Having seen his work, I can say with confidence that the patterns would have been of top quality - and would still be viable today if they could be located and a chassis created.
RCL
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I think the body masters were produced but the chassis and valve gear were proving to be a bit of a challenge. ?I am sure the masters were in a photo in an article about Wrightlines in an early NG&IRM Review. Robin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Woodcock Sent: 17 April 2020 14:39 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [o14] Something to do in these difficult times - RCL & NGI Competition Although it wasn’t a particular interest of mine, I do remember Kay telling me that she had someone producing masters for a white-metal kit of a VoR tank but that, even then (20 years ago?), not a lot seemed to be forthcoming. I suspect that the VoR tanks are not an easy subject to model. David Woodcock Champlon, Belgique
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Sorin,
I use the Bachrus series 50 adjustable rolling road for O14 (will cover all gauges 11-23mm). Various suppliers in EU sell them.
David H
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Hi Allan,
Well, I know very well Campulung nearby, it is a small world.
Many thanks for the information provided. I was contacted by John and I will order NG&I Review back issues. As I have already told John, as much as I like the Rheidol?
locomotive, perhaps it is not very wise to make it my first attempt to O14. Maybe a simpler engine, such as a diesel or tank locomotive with fewer axles will be more
appropiate for my first O14 kit. I will keep the Rheidol for later, when I will have a bit more expertise into this gauge.?
Please let me shoe you my latest effort: it is a HO model af a small shunting locomotive made in Sibiu, Romania in the '60ies.
Could you please recommend me such a simpler model to start with? Also, I realized that I have to manufacture my own testing track and rollers.
For HO and HOe I have already build such rollers:
What type of track do you use? Do you have any recommandations for a newbee as I am?
Sorin
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I built 5 points for my 'Bunny Mine' layout using the Roy Link type 2 plans but copper-clad sleepers. The frog and switch rails are live. The polarity is switched either by a slider switch which controls the point via 'wire in tube' or in one case via a rocker switch from a point control rod. A photo of one point pre-installation attached.?
Further details available if you are interested, there is a thread on NGRM.
David
Phil,
When I first started build points I used a sleeper made of copper clad either side of any isolating gaps to hold the rails in place with solder and then put cosmetic chairs in the right position to achieve that all charged look.
These days I use brass chairs and solder them to the sleeper strip to achieve the same result.?
I, as you have mentioned, keep the frog/crossing assembly as one unit and have the switch rails soldered to the CC sleeper strip to hold in place and cut the strip to provide the isolation gap in between them. This strip is then in turned soldered to the stock rail to achieve the power feed aspect of it.?
Switch rail wise I use a thinner section of The strip to solder the switch rails to a the tiebar and just cut the strip close to each rail to achieve the gap needed.
Hope this helps? Simon?
?Hi everyone, hope you are all keeping safe? I am hoping someone may be able to help with my current (no pun intended!) wiring dilemma. I am in the early stages of building a small o14 layout using Roy Link/KB Scale trackwork in the visible areas and hand built copper clad track using RL/KB templates off scene.? What I am struggling with is how to wire up the turnouts for DC and DCC.? I understand the basics but can't work out how Roy intended them to be wired? I assume as he used a brass tie bar both point blades are the same polarity and rely on contact with the stock rails to transmit power.? I note from the point building details on KB Scale's website, that the frog should be provided with a feed wire. I wish to use a Tortoise motor to switch frog polarity and also wish to provide power to the point blades in order not to rely on contact with the stock rails for power transmission. I cannot work out from the turnout building instructions whether the frog is electrically connected to the point blades at the pivot points or isolated. I was thinking the ideal way to wire the turnout would be the same as the recommended method of converting Peco Electrofrog points i.e. by electrically isolating the frog from the point blades and switching its polarity via the point motor auxiliary switches and then electrically bonding each point blade to its stock rail.? This would mean that each point blade is a fixed polarity eliminating any chance of the back of a wheel shorting across the point gap. The problem I foresee with this method, particularly on the RL/KB type 1 turnout (only 63mm in length) is the lack of sleepers to support the frog and point blades each side of the isolating gap between them. Also, the tie bar would have to be replaced with a non conductive material.
I would appreciate any comments, constructive criticism, pointing (!!) in the right direction (or even "what are you on about" type questions) etc. TIA
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Phil,
When I first started build points I used a sleeper made of copper clad either side of any isolating gaps to hold the rails in place with solder and then put cosmetic chairs in the right position to achieve that all charged look.
These days I use brass chairs and solder them to the sleeper strip to achieve the same result.?
I, as you have mentioned, keep the frog/crossing assembly as one unit and have the switch rails soldered to the CC sleeper strip to hold in place and cut the strip to provide the isolation gap in between them. This strip is then in turned soldered to the stock rail to achieve the power feed aspect of it.?
Switch rail wise I use a thinner section of The strip to solder the switch rails to a the tiebar and just cut the strip close to each rail to achieve the gap needed.
Hope this helps? Simon?
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On 18 Apr 2020, at 11:26, toones4 <phil.toone@...> wrote:
?Hi everyone, hope you are all keeping safe? I am hoping someone may be able to help with my current (no pun intended!) wiring dilemma. I am in the early stages of building a small o14 layout using Roy Link/KB Scale trackwork in the visible areas and hand built copper clad track using RL/KB templates off scene.? What I am struggling with is how to wire up the turnouts for DC and DCC.? I understand the basics but can't work out how Roy intended them to be wired? I assume as he used a brass tie bar both point blades are the same polarity and rely on contact with the stock rails to transmit power.? I note from the point building details on KB Scale's website, that the frog should be provided with a feed wire. I wish to use a Tortoise motor to switch frog polarity and also wish to provide power to the point blades in order not to rely on contact with the stock rails for power transmission. I cannot work out from the turnout building instructions whether the frog is electrically connected to the point blades at the pivot points or isolated. I was thinking the ideal way to wire the turnout would be the same as the recommended method of converting Peco Electrofrog points i.e. by electrically isolating the frog from the point blades and switching its polarity via the point motor auxiliary switches and then electrically bonding each point blade to its stock rail.? This would mean that each point blade is a fixed polarity eliminating any chance of the back of a wheel shorting across the point gap. The problem I foresee with this method, particularly on the RL/KB type 1 turnout (only 63mm in length) is the lack of sleepers to support the frog and point blades each side of the isolating gap between them. Also, the tie bar would have to be replaced with a non conductive material.
I would appreciate any comments, constructive criticism, pointing (!!) in the right direction (or even "what are you on about" type questions) etc. TIA
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Hi everyone, hope you are all keeping safe? I am hoping someone may be able to help with my current (no pun intended!) wiring dilemma. I am in the early stages of building a small o14 layout using Roy Link/KB Scale trackwork in the visible areas and hand built copper clad track using RL/KB templates off scene.? What I am struggling with is how to wire up the turnouts for DC and DCC.? I understand the basics but can't work out how Roy intended them to be wired? I assume as he used a brass tie bar both point blades are the same polarity and rely on contact with the stock rails to transmit power.? I note from the point building details on KB Scale's website, that the frog should be provided with a feed wire. I wish to use a Tortoise motor to switch frog polarity and also wish to provide power to the point blades in order not to rely on contact with the stock rails for power transmission. I cannot work out from the turnout building instructions whether the frog is electrically connected to the point blades at the pivot points or isolated. I was thinking the ideal way to wire the turnout would be the same as the recommended method of converting Peco Electrofrog points i.e. by electrically isolating the frog from the point blades and switching its polarity via the point motor auxiliary switches and then electrically bonding each point blade to its stock rail.? This would mean that each point blade is a fixed polarity eliminating any chance of the back of a wheel shorting across the point gap. The problem I foresee with this method, particularly on the RL/KB type 1 turnout (only 63mm in length) is the lack of sleepers to support the frog and point blades each side of the isolating gap between them. Also, the tie bar would have to be replaced with a non conductive material.
I would appreciate any comments, constructive criticism, pointing (!!) in the right direction (or even "what are you on about" type questions) etc. TIA
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Hi Allan,
Well, I know very well Campulung nearby, it is a small world. Many thanks for the information provided. I was contacted by John and I will order NG&I Review back issues. As I have already told John, as much as I like the Rheidol? locomotive, perhaps it is not very wise to make it my first attempt to O14. Maybe a simpler engine, such as a diesel or tank locomotive with fewer axles will be more appropiate for my first O14 kit. I will keep the Rheidol for later, when I will have a bit more expertise into this gauge.? Please let me shoe you my latest effort: it is a HO model af a small shunting locomotive made in Sibiu, Romania in the '60ies.  Could you please recommend me such a simpler model to start with? Also, I realized that I have to manufacture my own testing track and rollers. For HO and HOe I have already build such rollers:  What type of track do you use? Do you have any recommandations for a newbee as I am? Sorin
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I don't remember a V-o-R body kit but he also did a WHR Russell body.
Robin
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Phil Traxson Sent: 17 April 2020 23:06 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [o14] Something to do in these difficult times - RCL & NGI Competition I could be wrong (nothing new there!) but did Roger Chivers ever do a white metal body kit for these in 7mm, he did a C & M Argyll body and I have a Tralee & Dingle 2-6-0t in my "to be completed" box. These were designed to use a Bachman OO 2-6-2 chassis and I have a nagging suspicion the V-o-R tank was in the same series. I have a L & B tank which I bought completed which is one of his too, though that is on a modded "Lima" 08 chassis. Phil T. -----Original Message----- From: Craig Parry Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 9:57 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [o14] Something to do in these difficult times - RCL & NGI Competition I just read through those issues of the Review, thank you! Interesting reference info on Wrightlines. I almost thought I had solved a mystery from my parts box. I have posted questions before regarding the origins of this chimney and dome on the NGRM online before with an answer that Wrightlines had never produced a kit for these. I wish there was a parts list available that would verify the identity of W931. The description does not seem to coincide with parts. Maybe they were intended for a kit that was only proposed like Rheidol. They seem very similar to Rheidol but the chimney is too tall according to the drawings. Craig If you look in the Wrightlines article in Review Issue 2, there is a
photo at the top of page 47 showing the patterns.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Hughes
Sent: 17 April 2020 17:23
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [o14] Something to do in these difficult times - RCL &
NGI Competition
All I can add to Allan's comments are that the only pertinent
Wrightlines review I can find in the NG&IRM Review Index is about
Wrightlines in general and doesn't mention VoR. The same copy (Review
4) with loco drawings in also has drawings of passenger stock.
David (associate on NG&IRM Review)
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<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Allan Dare
<allan.dare@...<mailto:allan.dare@...>>
Sent: 17 April 2020 16:16
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [o14] Something to do in these difficult times - RCL &
NGI Competition
Hi Sorin
Good to hear from you, and welcome. My brother lives in Romania, in a
small village near Cimpulung in Arges, so it's a small world!
The book "Vale of Rheidol Light Railway" by C.Green (Wild Swan
Publications 1986, ISBN 0 906867 43 6) has lots of very good pictures,
but no drawings.
Small drawings of both the original locos built in 1902, and the
replacement locos built by the Great Western Railway in 1923, were
published in "Railway Modeller" magazine for November 2014. Bigger and
much more detailed drawings for the 1923 locos (which are the ones in
use
today) were published in "Narrow Gauge & Industrial Railway Modelling
Review" magazine, issue 4, 1990 (ISBN 0958-0808). NG&IRRM is
published by John Clutterbuck and Roy Link, who are members of this group.
Hope this helps
Allan Dare
On 17 Apr 2020, at 10:49, Sorin Anghel
<atelierulluianghel@...<mailto:atelierulluianghel@...>> wrote:
As this is my first post here, please let me introduce myself.
My name is Sorin Anghel, I live in Bucharest, Romania and I am a long
time modeller. My primary scale is HO (and HOe for narrow gauge) but I
am increasingly attracted by O14. Several british made locomotives
were used in Romania on 600 mm track, so I have plenty of subjects to think about.
If you wish to see my previous works, I have a blog where I show my
models
(atelierulluianghel.blogspot.com<
m>) but it is only written in Romanian. Usually I document my models
with lots of photos, though. As I have developed in recent years
several etched brass kits, I think maybe this is a real opportunity
for me to launch in O14. And I mean the Valley of Rheidol locomotives.
I do like the model very much, and I hope to be able to produce a high
quality kit for it. I am currently using CAD design and my models have
also 3d printed parts.
So, in order to get started I want to ask you if you know where I can
find detailed documentation about these locomotives, maybe some drawings.
Many thanks in advance.
Stay safe,
Sorin
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I could be wrong (nothing new there!) but did Roger Chivers ever do a white metal body kit for these in 7mm, he did a C & M Argyll body and I have a Tralee & Dingle 2-6-0t in my "to be completed" box. These were designed to use a Bachman OO 2-6-2 chassis and I have a nagging suspicion the V-o-R tank was in the same series. I have a L & B tank which I bought completed which is one of his too, though that is on a modded "Lima" 08 chassis.
Phil T.
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-----Original Message----- From: Craig Parry Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 9:57 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [o14] Something to do in these difficult times - RCL & NGI Competition I just read through those issues of the Review, thank you! Interesting reference info on Wrightlines. I almost thought I had solved a mystery from my parts box. I have posted questions before regarding the origins of this chimney and dome on the NGRM online before with an answer that Wrightlines had never produced a kit for these. I wish there was a parts list available that would verify the identity of W931. The description does not seem to coincide with parts. Maybe they were intended for a kit that was only proposed like Rheidol. They seem very similar to Rheidol but the chimney is too tall according to the drawings. Craig If you look in the Wrightlines article in Review Issue 2, there is a photo
at the top of page 47 showing the patterns.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Hughes
Sent: 17 April 2020 17:23
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [o14] Something to do in these difficult times - RCL & NGI
Competition
All I can add to Allan's comments are that the only pertinent Wrightlines
review I can find in the NG&IRM Review Index is about Wrightlines in
general and doesn't mention VoR. The same copy (Review 4) with loco
drawings in also has drawings of passenger stock.
David (associate on NG&IRM Review)
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Sent: 17 April 2020 16:16
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Competition
Hi Sorin
Good to hear from you, and welcome. My brother lives in Romania, in a
small village near Cimpulung in Arges, so it's a small world!
The book "Vale of Rheidol Light Railway" by C.Green (Wild Swan
Publications 1986, ISBN 0 906867 43 6) has lots of very good pictures, but
no drawings.
Small drawings of both the original locos built in 1902, and the
replacement locos built by the Great Western Railway in 1923, were
published in "Railway Modeller" magazine for November 2014. Bigger and
much more detailed drawings for the 1923 locos (which are the ones in use
today) were published in "Narrow Gauge & Industrial Railway Modelling
Review" magazine, issue 4, 1990 (ISBN 0958-0808). NG&IRRM is published by
John Clutterbuck and Roy Link, who are members of this group.
Hope this helps
Allan Dare
On 17 Apr 2020, at 10:49, Sorin Anghel
<atelierulluianghel@...<mailto:atelierulluianghel@...>> wrote:
As this is my first post here, please let me introduce myself.
My name is Sorin Anghel, I live in Bucharest, Romania and I am a long time
modeller. My primary scale is HO (and HOe for narrow gauge) but I am
increasingly attracted by O14. Several british made locomotives were used
in Romania on 600 mm track, so I have plenty of subjects to think about.
If you wish to see my previous works, I have a blog where I show my models
(atelierulluianghel.blogspot.com<>)
but it is only written in Romanian. Usually I document my models with lots
of photos, though. As I have developed in recent years several etched
brass kits, I think maybe this is a real opportunity for me to launch in
O14. And I mean the Valley of Rheidol locomotives. I do like the model
very much, and I hope to be able to produce a high quality kit for it. I
am currently using CAD design and my models have also 3d printed parts.
So, in order to get started I want to ask you if you know where I can
find detailed documentation about these locomotives, maybe some drawings.
Many thanks in advance.
Stay safe,
Sorin
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I just read through those issues of the Review, thank you!
Interesting reference info on Wrightlines.
I almost thought I had solved a mystery from my parts box.
I have posted questions before regarding the origins of this chimney and
dome on the NGRM online before with an answer that Wrightlines had never
produced a kit for these. I wish there was a parts list available that
would verify the identity of W931. The description does not seem to
coincide with parts.
Maybe they were intended for a kit that was only proposed like Rheidol.
They seem very similar to Rheidol but the chimney is too tall according to
the drawings.
Craig
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If you look in the Wrightlines article in Review Issue 2, there is a photo
at the top of page 47 showing the patterns.
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Sent: 17 April 2020 17:23
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [o14] Something to do in these difficult times - RCL & NGI
Competition
All I can add to Allan's comments are that the only pertinent Wrightlines
review I can find in the NG&IRM Review Index is about Wrightlines in
general and doesn't mention VoR. The same copy (Review 4) with loco
drawings in also has drawings of passenger stock.
David (associate on NG&IRM Review)
________________________________
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Allan Dare
<allan.dare@...<mailto:allan.dare@...>>
Sent: 17 April 2020 16:16
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [o14] Something to do in these difficult times - RCL & NGI
Competition
Hi Sorin
Good to hear from you, and welcome. My brother lives in Romania, in a
small village near Cimpulung in Arges, so it's a small world!
The book "Vale of Rheidol Light Railway" by C.Green (Wild Swan
Publications 1986, ISBN 0 906867 43 6) has lots of very good pictures, but
no drawings.
Small drawings of both the original locos built in 1902, and the
replacement locos built by the Great Western Railway in 1923, were
published in "Railway Modeller" magazine for November 2014. Bigger and
much more detailed drawings for the 1923 locos (which are the ones in use
today) were published in "Narrow Gauge & Industrial Railway Modelling
Review" magazine, issue 4, 1990 (ISBN 0958-0808). NG&IRRM is published by
John Clutterbuck and Roy Link, who are members of this group.
Hope this helps
Allan Dare
On 17 Apr 2020, at 10:49, Sorin Anghel
<atelierulluianghel@...<mailto:atelierulluianghel@...>> wrote:
As this is my first post here, please let me introduce myself.
My name is Sorin Anghel, I live in Bucharest, Romania and I am a long time
modeller. My primary scale is HO (and HOe for narrow gauge) but I am
increasingly attracted by O14. Several british made locomotives were used
in Romania on 600 mm track, so I have plenty of subjects to think about.
If you wish to see my previous works, I have a blog where I show my models
(atelierulluianghel.blogspot.com<>)
but it is only written in Romanian. Usually I document my models with lots
of photos, though. As I have developed in recent years several etched
brass kits, I think maybe this is a real opportunity for me to launch in
O14. And I mean the Valley of Rheidol locomotives. I do like the model
very much, and I hope to be able to produce a high quality kit for it. I
am currently using CAD design and my models have also 3d printed parts.
So, in order to get started I want to ask you if you know where I can
find detailed documentation about these locomotives, maybe some drawings.
Many thanks in advance.
Stay safe,
Sorin
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? “Rheidol” was A Really Useful Engine, to quote the Fat Controller, and attractive to boot, so a kit would be very welcome. However, the attraction of the Swindon-built 2-6-2ts is they are big, gutsy machines. There were quite a lot of largish British-built locos on the 2’ gauge lines in GB, India and S. Africa, so whilst the preponderance of kits for little quarry 0-4-0sts is understandable, something that looks like it can take a good paying load would make quite a ?change.
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On 17 Apr 2020, at 17:28, David Rae <davidcrae@...> wrote:
? What about the Bagnall loco 'Rheidol'? As a 2-4-0T it would have a wider market than the big 2-6-2Ts. It ran on the Rheidol till 1923 having run. On the Hafan & Talybont. There is a small drawing in Boyd's book on NGR in Midwales ?and been modelled in larger scales. David
All I can add to Allan's comments are that the only pertinent Wrightlines review I can find in the NG&IRM Review Index is about Wrightlines in general and doesn't mention VoR. The same copy (Review 4) with loco drawings in also has drawings of passenger stock.
David (associate on NG&IRM Review)
Hi Sorin
Good to hear from you, and welcome. My brother lives in Romania, in a small village near Cimpulung in Arges, so it's a small world!
The book “Vale of Rheidol Light Railway” by C.Green (Wild Swan Publications 1986, ISBN 0 906867 43 6) has lots of very good pictures, but no drawings.?
Small drawings of both the original locos built in 1902, and the replacement locos built by the Great Western Railway in 1923, were published in "Railway Modeller" magazine for November 2014. Bigger and much more detailed drawings for the 1923
locos (which are the ones in use today) were published in "Narrow Gauge & Industrial Railway Modelling Review” magazine, ?issue 4, 1990 (ISBN 0958-0808). NG&IRRM is published by John Clutterbuck and Roy Link, who are members of this group. ?
Hope this helps
Allan Dare
As this is my first post here, please let me introduce myself.
My name is Sorin Anghel, I live in Bucharest, Romania and I am a long time modeller. My primary scale is HO (and HOe for narrow gauge) but I am increasingly attracted by O14. Several british made locomotives were used in Romania on 600 mm track, so I have plenty
of subjects to think about.
If you wish to see my previous works, I have a blog where I show my models () but it is only written in Romanian. Usually I document my models with lots of photos,
though. As I have developed in recent years several etched brass kits, I think maybe this is a real opportunity for me to launch in O14. And I mean the Valley of Rheidol locomotives. I do like the model very much, and I hope to be able to produce a high quality
kit for it. I am currently using CAD design and my models have also 3d printed parts.
So, in order to get started ?I want to ask you if you know where I can find detailed documentation about these locomotives, maybe some drawings. Many thanks in advance.
Stay safe,
Sorin
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and if you are adding to the index then I keep meaning to mention
that my article on the Hudson-Hunslet kit in issue 107 is "9mm
(OO9)"
Mark
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And I've just spotted a mistake :(
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And I've just spotted a mistake :(
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Robin Edwards
David Hughes
Sorin Anghel
Allan Dare