Re: Expo Narrow Gauge 2020 update
Hopefully it will return better than ever. I missed last year as I was helping Paul at Welshpool. This year's show also has plenty of interest and hopefully won't be as wet.
Gleaned from another forum:
?"End of the line" (O14 & SG), Kevin Hughes with "Up the line" (O16.5), Paul Holmes "Borth-y-Gest" (4mm scale, 8mm gauge), Peter Booth "Dinas" (8mm scale),??George Williamson?"Tywyn Wharf" (5.5mm scale) and "Tony's Forest" (O14).
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Re: Slater's Manning Wardle Wheels
They might be for Lyn, hence the reason they’re doing a 10 spoke version as
well as a 8 spoke version
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Brian
Rawbelle
County Workshops
Qld. Aust.
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Surprised they’re doing a Manning Wardle before they’ve released
Lyn, or did you mean Baldwin?
David H
On 31 Jan 2020, at 20:26, Brian
<rallim56@...> wrote:
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For those of you that might be interested, I was
recently speaking with David White from Slater’s and he mentioned they have a
new wheel type they are doing for there Lynton & Barnstaple Manning Wardle
kit, the wheels themselves screw onto the axles.The subject came up because I
was asking David what they had available to better suit the backwoods
Miniature NGG-16 Garratt kit, from speaking with a number of people who have
done this kit the wheels and crank arrangement leaves a lot to be
desired.
Below is a copy of David’s email to me in regards to
these new wheels,
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“The total length of our
Lynton & Barnstable axle is 29.58mm the diameter of the axle between the
wheels is 3.175mm and the extensions are 2.48mm the square on the end is
1.69mm A/F and the width of the squares are 1mm. We have two wheels of 2'9"
that screw onto? this axle, one 10 spoke and one 8 spoke. The crank for
our L & B loco kit is machined from steel, we could do an alternative
crank in fact i do not know why Backwood’s? did not ask us to do a proper
set of wheels. Probably a set of wheels properly engineered with the correct
machined cranks at about ?13.00 an axle is too expensive. Once you have
studied these dimensions if they are suitable we could have a look at doing a
proper crank to fit.
kind regards
David White”
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Brian
Rawbelle
County Workshops
Qld. Aust.
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Re: Slater's Manning Wardle Wheels
Surprised they’re doing a Manning Wardle before they’ve released Lyn, or did you mean Baldwin?
David H
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For those of you that might be interested, I was recently speaking with David White from Slater’s and he mentioned they have a new wheel type they are doing for there Lynton & Barnstaple Manning Wardle kit, the wheels themselves
screw onto the axles.The subject came up because I was asking David what they had available to better suit the backwoods Miniature NGG-16 Garratt kit, from speaking with a number of people who have done this kit the wheels and crank arrangement leaves a lot
to be desired.
Below is a copy of David’s email to me in regards to these new wheels,
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“The total length of our Lynton & Barnstable axle is 29.58mm the diameter of the axle between the wheels is 3.175mm and the extensions
are 2.48mm the square on the end is 1.69mm A/F and the width of the squares are 1mm. We have two wheels of 2'9" that screw onto? this axle, one 10 spoke and one 8 spoke. The crank for our L & B loco kit is machined from steel, we could do an alternative crank
in fact i do not know why Backwood’s? did not ask us to do a proper set of wheels. Probably a set of wheels properly engineered with the correct machined cranks at about ?13.00 an axle is too expensive. Once you have studied these dimensions if they are suitable
we could have a look at doing a proper crank to fit.
kind regards
David White”
?
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Brian
Rawbelle County Workshops
Qld. Aust.
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Slater's Manning Wardle Wheels
For those of you that might be interested, I was
recently speaking with David White from Slater’s and he mentioned they have a
new wheel type they are doing for there Lynton & Barnstaple Manning Wardle
kit, the wheels themselves screw onto the axles.The subject came up because I
was asking David what they had available to better suit the backwoods Miniature
NGG-16 Garratt kit, from speaking with a number of people who have done this kit
the wheels and crank arrangement leaves a lot to be desired.
Below is a copy of David’s email to me in regards to
these new wheels,
?
“The total length of our
Lynton & Barnstable axle is 29.58mm the diameter of the axle between the
wheels is 3.175mm and the extensions are 2.48mm the square on the end is 1.69mm
A/F and the width of the squares are 1mm. We have two wheels of 2'9" that screw
onto? this axle, one 10 spoke and one 8 spoke. The crank for our L & B
loco kit is machined from steel, we could do an alternative crank in fact i do
not know why Backwood’s? did not ask us to do a proper set of wheels.
Probably a set of wheels properly engineered with the correct machined cranks at
about ?13.00 an axle is too expensive. Once you have studied these dimensions if
they are suitable we could have a look at doing a proper crank to
fit.
kind regards
David White”
?
?
Brian
Rawbelle
County Workshops
Qld. Aust.
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Re: Expo Narrow Gauge 2020 update
Glad I went last year after along break.
Maybe a bit disappointing for the organisers but perhaps they will find something better.
Kev S
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Re: Expo Narrow Gauge 2020 update
Good luck with finding a new Venue...? let us know when you have more information... I will miss my October 'fix' of Narrow gauge! Regards Andy
On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 12:14, Stephen Fulljames < stephen@...> wrote: Expo Narrow Gauge 2020
The Greenwich & District Narrow Gauge Railway Society has been
organising Expo Narrow Gauge – known as ExpoNG – since 1983. It was
the first national all narrow gauge modelling show in the UK and over
that time has grown to become Europe’s premier narrow gauge modelling
event attracting layouts, traders and visitors not only from the UK
and Europe but from further afield – Australia, Japan, Canada and the
US.
For the past 4-5 years we have lived with rumours of the redevelopment
of our current venue – the White Oaks Leisure Centre in Swanley, Kent.
Following last year’s show we finally received formal notice that this
redevelopment is likely to start in 2020 with the site to be used for
both residential and leisure use.
We cannot gamble on White Oaks being available in October this year
either in its current form or as a redeveloped leisure centre with
less facilities so clearly need to find a new venue which will be
suitable for future shows.
Although we have already identified a few options, it is clear that
there is now little time to arrange a show in October 2020. With the
agreement of our members, we have decided not to hold ExpoNG in 2020.
This will give us time to take a breather, settle on a new venue and
to look at what format future ExpoNGs might follow.
We hope you will understand our decision. We know that ExpoNG is a big
part of the narrow gauge modelling calendar.? We’d like to thank all
our visitors, exhibitors and traders who have supported us in the past
and look forward to seeing them again in the future.
Any queries regarding this news should be addressed to David Gander,
Secretary G&DNGRS (dh.gander@...) or Stephen Fulljames,
Exhibition Coordinator (stephen@...).
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Note: The Greenwich & District Narrow Gauge Railway Society was formed
in 1968 and has organised Expo Narrow Gauge since 1983. The first all
narrow gauge modelling event, it now attracts visitors from across the
world.
Expo Narrow Gauge is a registered trade mark of the Greenwich & District NGRS.
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Re: Expo Narrow Gauge 2020 update
Sad but understandable news.
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On 29 Jan 2020, at 12:14, Stephen Fulljames <stephen@...> wrote:
?Expo Narrow Gauge 2020
The Greenwich & District Narrow Gauge Railway Society has been
organising Expo Narrow Gauge – known as ExpoNG – since 1983. It was
the first national all narrow gauge modelling show in the UK and over
that time has grown to become Europe’s premier narrow gauge modelling
event attracting layouts, traders and visitors not only from the UK
and Europe but from further afield – Australia, Japan, Canada and the
US.
For the past 4-5 years we have lived with rumours of the redevelopment
of our current venue – the White Oaks Leisure Centre in Swanley, Kent.
Following last year’s show we finally received formal notice that this
redevelopment is likely to start in 2020 with the site to be used for
both residential and leisure use.
We cannot gamble on White Oaks being available in October this year
either in its current form or as a redeveloped leisure centre with
less facilities so clearly need to find a new venue which will be
suitable for future shows.
Although we have already identified a few options, it is clear that
there is now little time to arrange a show in October 2020. With the
agreement of our members, we have decided not to hold ExpoNG in 2020.
This will give us time to take a breather, settle on a new venue and
to look at what format future ExpoNGs might follow.
We hope you will understand our decision. We know that ExpoNG is a big
part of the narrow gauge modelling calendar. We’d like to thank all
our visitors, exhibitors and traders who have supported us in the past
and look forward to seeing them again in the future.
Any queries regarding this news should be addressed to David Gander,
Secretary G&DNGRS (dh.gander@...) or Stephen Fulljames,
Exhibition Coordinator (stephen@...).
---
Note: The Greenwich & District Narrow Gauge Railway Society was formed
in 1968 and has organised Expo Narrow Gauge since 1983. The first all
narrow gauge modelling event, it now attracts visitors from across the
world.
Expo Narrow Gauge is a registered trade mark of the Greenwich & District NGRS.
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Expo Narrow Gauge 2020 update
Expo Narrow Gauge 2020
The Greenwich & District Narrow Gauge Railway Society has been
organising Expo Narrow Gauge – known as ExpoNG – since 1983. It was
the first national all narrow gauge modelling show in the UK and over
that time has grown to become Europe’s premier narrow gauge modelling
event attracting layouts, traders and visitors not only from the UK
and Europe but from further afield – Australia, Japan, Canada and the
US.
For the past 4-5 years we have lived with rumours of the redevelopment
of our current venue – the White Oaks Leisure Centre in Swanley, Kent.
Following last year’s show we finally received formal notice that this
redevelopment is likely to start in 2020 with the site to be used for
both residential and leisure use.
We cannot gamble on White Oaks being available in October this year
either in its current form or as a redeveloped leisure centre with
less facilities so clearly need to find a new venue which will be
suitable for future shows.
Although we have already identified a few options, it is clear that
there is now little time to arrange a show in October 2020. With the
agreement of our members, we have decided not to hold ExpoNG in 2020.
This will give us time to take a breather, settle on a new venue and
to look at what format future ExpoNGs might follow.
We hope you will understand our decision. We know that ExpoNG is a big
part of the narrow gauge modelling calendar. We’d like to thank all
our visitors, exhibitors and traders who have supported us in the past
and look forward to seeing them again in the future.
Any queries regarding this news should be addressed to David Gander,
Secretary G&DNGRS (dh.gander@...) or Stephen Fulljames,
Exhibition Coordinator (stephen@...).
---
Note: The Greenwich & District Narrow Gauge Railway Society was formed
in 1968 and has organised Expo Narrow Gauge since 1983. The first all
narrow gauge modelling event, it now attracts visitors from across the
world.
Expo Narrow Gauge is a registered trade mark of the Greenwich & District NGRS.
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Re: 18 January - Trent Valley Area Group Members (open) Day
I am doing some modelling with small 3ft gauge prototypes in 21mm gauge. Alex Bingley has 3D printed a small wagon frame, based on a Torrington & Marland 10ft length wagon [Ted Davies' drawing] but would also suit the Southwold open wagons, using Slaters 14mm wheels. I'll take delivery at the Trent Valley show and he's happy to print them for anyone else.
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 19:13, John C via Groups.Io <jclutterbuck2001= [email protected]> wrote: Looks a good line up. wish I could be there. Just a small point of order - as agreed the correct term is "O14" - especially on this forum.
John
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Re: 18 January - Trent Valley Area Group Members (open) Day
Looks a good line up. wish I could be there. Just a small point of order - as agreed the correct term is "O14" - especially on this forum. ( I've now corrected the offending messages)John
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Re: 18 January - Trent Valley Area Group Members (open) Day
Hi Frank,
Coxheath Sidings was mainly built in Canada, named after the district in Cape Breton where we lived at the time so nothing Anglo-Saxon about it other than being a British setting. It is now DCC. It has its own thread on RmWeb:?
David
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 14:51, Frank Sharp via Groups.Io <frank.j.sharp= [email protected]> wrote: David, ? Is Coxheath DCC or Anglo Saxon? ? Frank ? ? Great line-up for Mickleover, Neil! ? Thanks Simon.? For those of you interested, below is the confirmed list of attendees:?
Layouts:?
Shropshire Minerals Light Railway - 0-16.5??- West Midlands Area Group of the 7mmNGA The Pipeyard - 0-16.5 - David Lenton Caanan Valley - On30 - John Aldridge New Sharon - On2 - Bob Harper 0-14 Taster Layout - 0-14 - Simon Jones Coxheath Sidings - 7mmSG - David Rae Black Drake Wharf - 7mmSG - Phil Traxson Gn15 - Jim English ? Traders:? EDM Models Port Wynnstay Models Trent Valley Area Group Secondhand sales Association Modelling Goods Association Secondhand Sales Association Publications ? Demo:? DC Loco Clinic - David Tillett
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Re: 18 January - Trent Valley Area Group Members (open) Day
David, ? Is Coxheath DCC or Anglo Saxon? ? Frank ?
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Subject: Re: [o14] 18 January - Trent Valley Area Group Members (open) Day? Great line-up for Mickleover, Neil! ? Thanks Simon.? For those of you interested, below is the confirmed list of attendees:?
Layouts:?
Shropshire Minerals Light Railway - 0-16.5??- West Midlands Area Group of the 7mmNGA The Pipeyard - 0-16.5 - David Lenton Caanan Valley - On30 - John Aldridge New Sharon - On2 - Bob Harper 0-14 Taster Layout - 0-14 - Simon Jones Coxheath Sidings - 7mmSG - David Rae Black Drake Wharf - 7mmSG - Phil Traxson Gn15 - Jim English ? Traders:? EDM Models Port Wynnstay Models Trent Valley Area Group Secondhand sales Association Modelling Goods Association Secondhand Sales Association Publications ? Demo:? DC Loco Clinic - David Tillett
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Re: 18 January - Trent Valley Area Group Members (open) Day
Great line-up for Mickleover, Neil!
Thanks Simon.?
For those of you interested, below is the confirmed list of attendees:?
Layouts:?
Shropshire Minerals Light Railway - 0-16.5??- West Midlands Area Group of the 7mmNGA
The Pipeyard - 0-16.5 - David Lenton
Caanan Valley - On30 - John Aldridge
New Sharon - On2 - Bob Harper
0-14 Taster Layout - 0-14 - Simon Jones
Coxheath Sidings - 7mmSG - David Rae
Black Drake Wharf - 7mmSG - Phil Traxson
Gn15 - Jim English
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Traders:?
EDM Models
Port Wynnstay Models
Trent Valley Area Group Secondhand sales
Association Modelling Goods
Association Secondhand Sales
Association Publications
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Demo:?
DC Loco Clinic - David Tillett
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Re: 18 January - Trent Valley Area Group Members (open) Day
Thanks Simon.?
For those of you interested, below is the confirmed list of attendees:?
Layouts:?
Shropshire Minerals Light Railway - O16.5??- West Midlands Area Group of the 7mmNGA
The Pipeyard - O16.5 - David Lenton
Caanan Valley - On30 - John Aldridge
New Sharon - On2 - Bob Harper
O14 Taster Layout - O14 - Simon Jones
Coxheath Sidings - 7mmSG - David Rae
Black Drake Wharf - 7mmSG - Phil Traxson
Gn15 - Jim English
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Traders:?
EDM Models
Port Wynnstay Models
Trent Valley Area Group Secondhand sales
Association Modelling Goods
Association Secondhand Sales
Association Publications
?
Demo:?
DC Loco Clinic - David Tillett
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Re: 18 January - Trent Valley Area Group Members (open) Day
Chipping in on the O14 front…..
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- I will have a 14mm gauge Darjeeling loco that needs a test run. Works on tight curves but with a hellish overhang
- Samples of printed track for O14
- And, just maybe, something else O14 to show
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Paul
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Simon Jones
Sent: 12 January 2020 15:28
To: [email protected]
Subject: [o14] 18 January - Trent Valley Area Group Members (open) Day
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For anyone wondering, I can confirm there will be at least (probably only, actually) one O14 layout at the Trent Valley Area Group's open day this coming Saturday 18 Jan.
It's my embryonic compact taster layout, track based on RCL track components and includes a couple tight of Type 1 curves.
Visiting O14 locos/stock welcome, though locos of 3+axles may only have two or three feet to stretch their wheels in. Expecting to have both DC and DCC power.
Cheers
Simon
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Re: 18 January - Trent Valley Area Group Members (open) Day
Whilst not quite o14, for those who enjoy a scale two foot between their rails, Bob Harper will be bringing part of his latest on2 1/4” scale layout to Mickleover.
Cheers,
Andrew
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Re: 18 January - Trent Valley Area Group Members (open) Day
Well done Simon, I have flown the flag for 014 at the Trent Valley event 2 years ago but this year will be with my standard gauge Microsoft Coxheath Ridings on probably it's last outing.? Look forward to seeing you and your layout.
David
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020, 15:27 Simon Jones, < simon@...> wrote: For anyone wondering, I can confirm there will be at least (probably only, actually) one O14 layout at the Trent Valley Area Group's open day this coming Saturday 18 Jan.
It's my embryonic compact taster layout, track based on RCL track components and includes a couple tight of Type 1 curves.
Visiting O14 locos/stock welcome, though locos of 3+axles may only have two or three feet to stretch their wheels in. Expecting to have both DC and DCC power.
Cheers
Simon
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18 January - Trent Valley Area Group Members (open) Day
For anyone wondering, I can confirm there will be at least (probably only, actually) one O14 layout at the Trent Valley Area Group's open day this coming Saturday 18 Jan.
It's my embryonic compact taster layout, track based on RCL track components and includes a couple tight of Type 1 curves.
Visiting O14 locos/stock welcome, though locos of 3+axles may only have two or three feet to stretch their wheels in. Expecting to have both DC and DCC power.
Cheers
Simon
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Re: Chemin de fer du calvados
Thanks David That rings a bell. I have a horrible feeling I gave away the relevant issue of NGIRM a good few years ago, during a temporary relapse from NG modelling (heresy, I know....!)
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On 10 Jan 2020, at 21:53, David Hughes <formerchurchwarden@...> wrote:
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Hi Allan,
Alain's book has a few very poor (and rather small) line drawings. Rather better drawings of a Mallet and IIRC a Tubize Bi-cabine can be found in Narrow Gauge and Industrial Railway Modelling Review - I must declare an interest as an associate of that publication.?
David H
Does Alain’s book have any drawings? I’d love to model a 60cm-gauge steam tram loco, and the Calvados enclosed 4-6-0ts would fit the bill nicely.
Allan
On 10 Jan 2020, at 19:05, ezeebob@... wrote:
?Hello, I'm new to saying anything here but I've been tempted out of silence by the calvados tramway. It's driving me mad. I've seen 2 french books, one by Henri Domengie and the other one by Alain de Dieuleveult. Funds are tight so it's either/or
not both. Anyone know which is the better book??
?I'm especially interested in the gare caen st pierre the photos of it I've seen of it just look great. I've tried to find a map of it but no luck. Anyone out there know more?
Yours
David
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Re: Chemin de fer du calvados
Hi Allan,
Alain's book has a few very poor (and rather small) line drawings. Rather better drawings of a Mallet and IIRC a Tubize Bi-cabine can be found in Narrow Gauge and Industrial Railway Modelling Review - I must declare an interest as an associate of that publication.?
David H
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Does Alain’s book have any drawings? I’d love to model a 60cm-gauge steam tram loco, and the Calvados enclosed 4-6-0ts would fit the bill nicely.
Allan
On 10 Jan 2020, at 19:05, ezeebob@... wrote:
?Hello, I'm new to saying anything here but I've been tempted out of silence by the calvados tramway. It's driving me mad. I've seen 2 french books, one by Henri Domengie and the other one by Alain de Dieuleveult. Funds are tight so it's either/or
not both. Anyone know which is the better book??
?I'm especially interested in the gare caen st pierre the photos of it I've seen of it just look great. I've tried to find a map of it but no luck. Anyone out there know more?
Yours
David
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David Hughes
Paul Martin
Allan Dare