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I'm not sure what you're looking at on the Slater's Page that says 3/4" gauge, but I know they have a copy of our standards because I've sent it to them - twice - in order to correct a production problem they had.

The Slater’s ?-inch gauge products are 1:32 scale, not 1:43.5.


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Kevin Crosado
De Selby Research

I know some modellers use fancy wheel presses, but for rolling stock I use Gibson wheels and just carefully twist and push them in on the axes to a back to back of 12.5mm measured using a digital vernier .?
Same for press fit loco wheels and markits sell 14 gauge axles with the back to back of 12.5. You cannot use 00 gauge plastic wheels moulded onto the axles though.?

Brilliant guys you’ve all been a great help. Looking forward to start aloco soon
Regardd Thomas

Hi thanks for the advice. I’m based in Cambridgeshire. I can’t understand how You can adapt em to 14mm but I’ll look forward to finding out.?
Regards Thomas?

Quite agree with all! ?I use Gibson wheels pushed in for stock and either Gibson or Romford (Markits) for locos with the 14mm axles.?
Currently started on the Dorset kits Welshpool loco using the kit wheels. But running on 17.5mm gauge of course!!?
Paul

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Hi Paul. Thanks very much. I am much a build and like things to be perfect. I plan to scratch build a few of my favourite 2ft Gauge locos. I can build track quite easily and the locos its just the wheels I will struggle with. Is regauging o16 wheels easy?
Regards Thomas

Hi Thomas. Welcome aboard! ?Basically we aim to model in 7mm scale with a near correct track gauge. ?So 14mm is exactly 2’ gauge but gets used for everything from Penrhyn 1’10 3/4” through to 2’0”. ?Not Talyllyn at 2’3”.?
Personally I use everything and anything available for 7mm Narrow gauge and build it to?run on 14mm gauge track. Good resources from the 7mm Narrow gauge Association and a good list of suppliers on their website for members.?
Remember it is very much a model builders option. Not really any RTR stuff nor RTR chasses but we source bits and pieces from all over the place. Some things are quite easy; my Lyd model is from the ancient Gibson/Link kit built pretty much as intended but with the wheels set to the narrower back to back. As it’s outside framed a few washers on the axle is all that’s required. But if you want to build a kit and stick it on an RTR chassis, then stick with mainstream O-16.5.?
Good luck. It’s fun in here.?
Paul?

Hi guys. I’ve been wanting to go in to 2ft narrow Gauge in 7mm for a while now but I can’t seem to find anyway. On the slaters website they have some but when reading it says that the Gauge is 3/4 of an inch. Which I don’t believe is right. If anyone could point me in the right direction that would be great!! And any other info for starting up would be great. Many thanks Thomas?

Dear All,

I came across this which I ran past John about 5 years ago and may be useful. Edited:

"Finescale is a dual approach to railway modelling. It involves both high fidelity (making the model look realistic) and attention to reliable running.

·??????Finescale track gauge is determined by the prototype and scale ratio,?not?by usage, although ...

·??????in practice, 7mm representation for example of 1'11" to 2' or 600mm gauge prototypes all tend to be rounded to 14mm.

·??????Gauges of 15", 18", 2'3", 750mm etc. are noticeably different!

·???????Even if the prototype didn't have tight enough curves to warrant gauge-widening, the chances are that the layout will have, although on the whole …

·???????transition curves are probably more important for reliability.

·???????If the prototype had super-elevation on the curves then model it, but ...

·???????on the model, wheel flanges play a bigger role in keeping stock on the track than super-elevation and wheel-coning do on the real thing, so also use checkrails.

·???????Scale flangeways are one of the easiest ways to recognize finescale track, but ...

·???????be meticulous with wheel profiles and back-to-back measurements, because …

·???????the relationship between back to back, gauge and flangeways is critical for good runningespecially in pointwork.”

I hope it’s of use in the debate,

David H

Thanks Paul
I look forward to these with interest. They look like they may be more detailed than your previous supply too - which i found rather disappointing compared with say HMRC offerings. ?
I would personally prefer to pay ?30-40 for a sheet of say 100 crests rather than coach by coach which always seems an expensive way of buying them. I assume an A4 sheet containing a nice BIG selection would be crazy price to print? I would assume, probably incorrectly, that once the artwork was set up, printing a large sheet should be proportionally much cheaper than lots of little ones??

Yesterday in the topic for the Slaters L&B Wagons I mentioned some new transfers from EDM Models in preparation and promises more info so here it is: -

Many will know that I had a business relationship with a known source of transfers the idea being I bought them in bulk and then retailed them. That didn't work out and the arrangement was terminated last summer. I promised at the time that I would seek to replace these with my own source. Nothing happened for a quite awhile due to other pressures but we're now just a couple of weeks away from having our first decals from the new source available. Here are some of the features of the first sets: -

*? Created from the same artwork as the currently used full size transfers
*? Printed by the same company that makes the full size transfers
*? Very fine waterslide transfers
*? Produced by a mix of screen and digital printing
*? Sheets in 7mm & 4mm Scale
*? Comprehensive sheets for the subject - no having to buy seperate packs of crests/numbers/letters

The first four sets will be
*? FR Carriage Transfers in 7mm
*? F&WHR Carriage Transfers in 7mm
*? FR Carriage Transfers in 4mm
*? F&WHR Carriage Transfers in 4mm

The exact layout of the sheets isn't decided yet and I may involve you in that although a similar offer on a 009 forum brought no input at all
The image below is a mobile phone shot of a sample BR crest supplied as a sample
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Where we are up to is this. I have a commission model to build to a deadline and some transfers are being produced for that and some of the preparation paves the way for the later sets.
To illustrate what I mean by complete sheets this is just a mock up image of what are being done for me in one sheet
Note - the 102's in black are actually white letters but that wouldn't show up here.

There may later be some crest only sheets for loco and, maybe, some specials for the pullmans and obs cars. After the FR and F&WHR I would like to do the L&B loco's, coaches and wagons.

BUT - always a but isn't there

This process isn't cheap and getting these first sheets done is going to cost me a sizeable lump of cash (although given the process it'll probably be a lifetime supply of transfers). Its entirely dependant on when I can afford them. If the first ones sell then I'll go on to do others. If they don't the plan probably ends with these sheets.?

I will post the first draft of the layouts when I have them for comment and suggestions and the endless debate of the ratio of crests to numbers and how many 1 & 0's to include in the carriage numbering

Paul Martin
EDM Models

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Cheers Frank. Of course I’m still a member! ?6 is still a bit steep for a thin magazine sized booklet and I wonder how many will sell at that price. Might shift more at ?2.95 I would have thought.?
Paul?

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I had a quick flick through the new 7mm NGA Getting Started booklet too as it's for sale on the FfWHR Harbour Station shop. ?8 seems a bit steep so did not buy one!?
Thrilled to find there are three photos of my layout (Dinas 1869), but no mention (I think) that it's 14mm Gauge!! Paul?

Good points well made - I've updated the group descritpion to reflect this.