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Re: Britain from Above

 

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Hi,

Watching the box the other night there were 2 programs on which had items on the cliff railway at Lynton.
Railway Architecture covered both Lynton Cliff Railway and Lynton & Barnstaple Railway giving a potted
history of both.

Michael Portillo covered the Cliff Railway in the last 5 minutes, I didn't see the whole program.

Regards

Frank Metcalf




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Peter Tarver via groups.io <peter_tarver@...>
Sent: 18 February 2021 08:32
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [o14] Britain from Above
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Bing maps includes the current OS maps - this is only 1:50k (the pink ones), but still quite useful.



Inline image

Cheers,
Pete


On Thursday, 18 February 2021, 08:20:14 GMT, John C via groups.io <jclutterbuck2001@...> wrote:


Thanks guys. I should have checked the contours myself. Note I think detailed OS mapping in small amounts should now be free although you may need to create an account and use a GIS like Qgis.

An electric L&B would have been interesting and they could probably have used hydroelectricity given the location. I imagine it would have been a wider gauge had they done so.

Re: Britain from Above

 

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If you search for Old Scottish Maps you should turn up a site which has all the UK and all the OS maps going back to when James Spooner worked for the OS. The OS started because we had no accurate maps for the military in case Napoleon invaded.

With regards to the location of the station, wasn't that for the convenience of George Newne? IIRC the cliff railway was to persuade the great unwashed to go down into the town out of his sight!

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Frank
Re: Britain from Above

 

Bing maps includes the current OS maps - this is only 1:50k (the pink ones), but still quite useful.



Inline image

Cheers,
Pete


On Thursday, 18 February 2021, 08:20:14 GMT, John C via groups.io <jclutterbuck2001@...> wrote:


Thanks guys. I should have checked the contours myself. Note I think detailed OS mapping in small amounts should now be free although you may need to create an account and use a GIS like Qgis.

An electric L&B would have been interesting and they could probably have used hydroelectricity given the location. I imagine it would have been a wider gauge had they done so.

Re: Britain from Above

 

Thanks guys. I should have checked the contours myself. Note I think detailed OS mapping in small amounts should now be free although you may need to create an account and use a GIS like Qgis.

An electric L&B would have been interesting and they could probably have used hydroelectricity given the location. I imagine it would have been a wider gauge had they done so.
Re: Britain from Above

 

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Lynton station is almost spot on the 700ft contour. The top station of the Cliff Railway would be the logical point for the L&B terminus (“Lynton Interchange”!), but this is somewhere around the 500-525ft mark (the OS tends to omit contour lines in built up areas), despite being only a few hundred yards from the L&B station as the crow flies. Siting the station nearer to the town whilst maintaining the L&B’s 1:50 ruling gradient would have entailed some heroic engineering plus demolition of property and prime woodland, so no surprise that it didn’t happen.
Of course, if they’d only built the L&B as a Manx Electric style interurban, allowing steeper grades, tighter curved and street running.....
I shall now duck!


On 17 Feb 2021, at 13:56, David Woodhead <davidwoodhead@...> wrote:

?I found this postcard of Lynton some time ago - gives an idea of those contours! No date, and likely an artificially darkened shot - the ship detail is interesting down in the harbour. I can enlarge if you’re interested.?
David Woodhead

<Lynton PC2.jpeg>






On Feb 17, 2021, at 4:54 AM, Phil Traxson <phil@...> wrote:

That photo flattens out the contours no end, there would have to be major civil engineering to get any nearer the town.
Phil T.
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Re: Britain from Above

 

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I found this postcard of Lynton some time ago - gives an idea of those contours! No date, and likely an artificially darkened shot - the ship detail is interesting down in the harbour. I can enlarge if you’re interested.?
David Woodhead







On Feb 17, 2021, at 4:54 AM, Phil Traxson <phil@...> wrote:

That photo flattens out the contours no end, there would have to be major civil engineering to get any nearer the town.
Phil T.
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Re: Britain from Above

 

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That photo flattens out the contours no end, there would have to be major civil engineering to get any nearer the town.
Phil T.
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From: John C via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 2:12 PM
Subject: [o14] Britain from Above
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Perhaps others new about this already but this is a new website to me. The search works with town names and "Lynton" turned up this interesting image of Lynton in 1920: I hadn't realised how far away from the town the station was. It looks like they could easily have got it nearer.

John

Britain from Above

 
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Perhaps others knew about this already but this is a new website to me. The search works with town names and "Lynton" turned up this interesting image of Lynton in 1920:??I hadn't realised how far away from the town the station was. It looks like they could easily have got it nearer.

John
OT - P48

 

My thanks to everybody who gave me links to P48 FB pages. With the limited space I have, I’ve decided to return to modelling in American S scale. This is finescale - not American Flyer ? S scale at 1/64 3/16in/ft is 0.75 the size of American O. I have previously modelled in S and I enjoy the size.

My narrow gauge modelling is focusing on O21 - mainly Irish and Manx. I will be handlaying my track using Kalgarren code 100 FB rail and micro engineer spikes I’ve received from Paul.

best regards
Stay safe
Stay sane

Kelvin
Re: OT - P48

 

Hi, Kelvin -

The best FB group has already been mentioned; Gene’s blog is also good to follow. ?Please let me know if I can help you source things, I’m not a dealer of any kind but can help if you get stuck. ?(Brits have been helping me for years with my UK outline interests, payback.)

My main modeling interest is US outline Proto:48, although the focus is changing somewhat for the next few years due to having a much smaller space available in my new home - 1953 era Chicago and NorthWestern steam and early diesel equipment is being stored while I work up a 2000 era industrial park layout. ?I do have some knowledge of what is available for your era of interest because of my main interest. ?Feel free to send me a message offline if you’d like to discuss!

Best regards -

Ken Ford
Windham, NH USA
Re: OT - P48

 

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If you are looking for P48 stuff then this mob would be a good source.
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Brian
Rawbelle County Workshops
Qld. Aust.
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From: David Rae
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 2:48 AM
Subject: Re: [o14] OT - P48
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Kelvin,
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Try joining the American O-Scale in the UK Facebooking group
Very little importing to UK going on but mutual help available. also try OScaleForum site.
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David
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 at 14:40, Kelvin White <kelvin.torteval@...> wrote:
I’m about to start on a small P48 shelf layout- standard gauge shortline - central Florida in the steam / diesel era transition era .
Is there anyone in the UK selling American O gauge?? I recognise I will need to change the wheels ‘ trucks.
Does anybody know of a P48 io list or Facebook page?

thanks
now to return to all things narrow.

Virus-free.

Re: OT - P48

 

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Good morning Kelvin

Here are two more references, the first in FB and the second on groups.io

PROTO48: The future of 1/48 railroad modeling


/g/OScale2RailProto48Modelers

Enjoy your journey.

Ian

On 2/14/2021 8:40 AM, Kelvin White wrote:

I’m about to start on a small P48 shelf layout- standard gauge shortline - central Florida in the steam / diesel era transition era .
Is there anyone in the UK selling American O gauge? ?I recognise I will need to change the wheels ‘ trucks.
Does anybody know of a P48 io list or Facebook page?

thanks
now to return to all things narrow.

Re: OT - P48

 

Kelvin,

Try joining the American O-Scale in the UK Facebooking group
Very little importing to UK going on but mutual help available. also try OScaleForum site.

David

On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 at 14:40, Kelvin White <kelvin.torteval@...> wrote:
I’m about to start on a small P48 shelf layout- standard gauge shortline - central Florida in the steam / diesel era transition era .
Is there anyone in the UK selling American O gauge?? I recognise I will need to change the wheels ‘ trucks.
Does anybody know of a P48 io list or Facebook page?

thanks
now to return to all things narrow.

Re: OT - P48

 

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Facebook has a group, 'proto48: the future of 1/48 railroad modeling' that is the one you should join, run by Gene Deimling. Gene has a blog well worth looking at as he highlights many of the best modelers in that scale. ?I believe if you search groups io for p48 you'll find one.?

Dave Eggleston
Seattle WA

On Feb 14, 2021, at 7:18 AM, David Woodhead <davidwoodhead@...> wrote:

? I’ve been entertaining the idea of doing some P:48 and have a few friends in my area who are helpful. I do see information on this FB page (including some questions of my own -?

And one of my friends has a blog on his P:48 adventures - Mark Zagrodney. He just got a large milling machine, so he’s serious!

David Woodhead ? ?Toronto?



On Feb 14, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Kelvin White <kelvin.torteval@...> wrote:

I’m about to start on a small P48 shelf layout- standard gauge shortline - central Florida in the steam / diesel era transition era .
Is there anyone in the UK selling American O gauge? ?I recognise I will need to change the wheels ‘ trucks.
Does anybody know of a P48 io list or Facebook page?

thanks
now to return to all things narrow.

Re: OT - P48

 

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I’ve been entertaining the idea of doing some P:48 and have a few friends in my area who are helpful. I do see information on this FB page (including some questions of my own -?

And one of my friends has a blog on his P:48 adventures - Mark Zagrodney. He just got a large milling machine, so he’s serious!

David Woodhead ? ?Toronto?



On Feb 14, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Kelvin White <kelvin.torteval@...> wrote:

I’m about to start on a small P48 shelf layout- standard gauge shortline - central Florida in the steam / diesel era transition era .
Is there anyone in the UK selling American O gauge? ?I recognise I will need to change the wheels ‘ trucks.
Does anybody know of a P48 io list or Facebook page?

thanks
now to return to all things narrow.

OT - P48

 

I’m about to start on a small P48 shelf layout- standard gauge shortline - central Florida in the steam / diesel era transition era .
Is there anyone in the UK selling American O gauge? ?I recognise I will need to change the wheels ‘ trucks.
Does anybody know of a P48 io list or Facebook page?

thanks
now to return to all things narrow.
Re: Micro Engineering spikes and basswood

 

Sorry Paul. I thought you did but had to rush out to meet our removal people delivering to Teignmouth and am struggling with just a phone at the moment.?
John
Re: Micro Engineering spikes and basswood

 

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>>I'm not sure if EDM models does the spikes.<<

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You could check before saying things like that.

Only out of the Micro Spikes at the moment as ME hadn’t got any at the time of my last order

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Paul

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John C via
Sent: 02 February 2021 08:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [o14] Micro Engineering spikes and basswood

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Hi Kelvin,

I'm not sure if EDM models does the spikes. Don't forget you can always make your own from staples. My simple method is described in my trackwork articles here:??and Roy described a more sophisticated technique in issue 122.?

If you can't find correct size timber then it is possible to get some custom cut which is what I had to do for the SR period Lynton layout a few years back. At the time I used a wonderful company called Twigfolly but the guy has now retired, but I think these also will do it:?

Please keep us updated on your progress.

John

Re: Micro Engineering spikes and basswood

 

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Kelvin,

There is also Jennifers of Walsall who stock the MidWest basswood, see?


Regards

Steve


On 2 Feb 2021, at 08:13, John C via <jclutterbuck2001@...> wrote:

Hi Kelvin,

I'm not sure if EDM models does the spikes. Don't forget you can always make your own from staples. My simple method is described in my trackwork articles here:??and Roy described a more sophisticated technique in issue 122.?

If you can't find correct size timber then it is possible to get some custom cut which is what I had to do for the SR period Lynton layout a few years back. At the time I used a wonderful company called Twigfolly but the guy has now retired, but I think these also will do it:?

Please keep us updated on your progress.

John

Re: Micro Engineering spikes and basswood

 

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Hi Kelvin,

Also Cornwall Model boats sell Limewood sheets (the Anglicised name for US ‘basswood’) from 1.5mm thick and up in 100 x 1000mm sheets. They have lime strip wood too if that helps. Not quite the same grain selection/ quality as Kappler or Northeastern but perfectly fine for sleepers.?


Regards?

James?
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