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Re: Pewsey Sat 15th August 2015
开云体育I'll be going on the 15th, while there's still a chance of cake! Please note the correct date (15th Wilts 009 Group Open Day, 2015, and on the 15th. I think you can expect some models of 15" gauge prototypes! David On 17 Jul 2015, at 19:53, jclutterbuck2001@... [O14] <O14@...> wrote:
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Pewsey Sat 15th August 2015
Myself and David will be flying the O14 flag at the Wiltshire 009 group open day + MOMING + lardy cake fest
I hope to offer have-a-go track making sessions and possibly some of my new flexible one piece coupler/fittings. The address is: Bouverie Hall, North Street Car Park, Goddard Road , Pewsey, Wiltshire. SN9 5QE John |
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Re: A3014 Micro display
开云体育Thanks George!
?
This is the first time I have heard of this product. I have done some
“Googling” and it appears to be entering a very technical (but interesting) area
of light conversion.
?
Thanks for the tip.
?
Best regards
Bruce
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From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 11:35 PM
To: O14@...
Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ?
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The other approach is to use a daylight filter gel over your light source.
I've only
used those for converting tungsen to daylight, but a good photography shop
should be able to advise on the correct one for quartz halogen. Last time i
bought some it cost me about�5 for a large sheet. Best from Sweden.
George!
?
?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
smartphone. -------- Original message -------- From: "'Bruce Wood' bruce.wood@... [O14]" Date:02/07/2015 14:03 (GMT+01:00) To: O14@... Cc: Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? Thanks Frank – I can see I have some learning / experimenting to do!
?
Hopefully, this weekend I can start to improve my results?
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
?
From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:30 PM
To: O14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
Hi Bruce,
As
you are using a Canon EOS 550D then, yes, you need to explore white balance in
the settings. I use a Canon EOS 700D, and before that a Canon EOS 450D. You do
not need Photoshop to manipulate RAW as Canon have their own photoediting
software on the disk which comes with the camera or you can download it from
their site.
Best wishes
Frank
To: O14@... From: O14@... Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 18:35:09 +1000 Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
Hi Frank,
?
What you have written, is what I believe is the problem?
?
I have a Cannon EOS 550D , and I have not explored all the settings,
however I am sure the camera has the capability for all these different
settings.
?
I have also been advised to take pictures in RAW format, although, again, I
haven’t experimented with this, and do not properly understand the difference,
and I neither have, or know how to use Photoshop?
?
When I do a photographic session at home, and use the special photography
lighting, the colour balance is good. However, at exhibitions when I take
pictures with the display quartz halogen lighting, I then get the “yellow”
saturation. Maybe I need to experiment at home with the quartz halogen lights to
see how to remove the yellow, and get a better colour balance??
?
Thanks again for your tips, I think I need to get busy with experimenting
with all the different camera settings
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
?
From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 6:00 PM
To: O14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
?
Hi Bruce,
Regarding the colour balance of photographs it may be that
the photographers are altering the white balance setting on their cameras. On my
Canon DSLR I can alter the white balance to whatever the ambient light is. I can
set it for Tungsten, Flourescent etc. at the time of taking the photos. Also if
I take in RAW format photoshop has a setting to adjust the balance. This does
not apply if the photo is save as a JPG.
I
don't think that the compact digital cameras have as much
flexibility.
Best wishes
Frank Metcalf
To: O14@... From: O14@... Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 12:36:58 +1000 Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
Hi David,
?
Thank-you for the tip on the lighting. I was thinking of a desk lamp, the
type with the long swinging arm. (I think that is the same as what you have
suggested?)
?
My O16.5 display (which is approx 1 meter x 1 meter in the display area)
has an overhead gantry, with six adjustable quarts halogen lights.? A lot
of the pictures I have taken have a yellow bias. I have tried adjusting the
camera, without success, so I need to do some homework on possibly replacing the
current globes to give a better balance of colour? I don’t know why, however
pictures I have seen taken by other photographers of my display, do have a good
balance of colour, so maybe they are using a photograph editing application to
adjust the colour balance?
?
Thanks for the information on the A3014 motorway – I wasn’t aware of that!
I am a member of the Gauge O Guild.
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 6:43 AM
To: o14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
?
Bruce,
Now I've managed to see the photos - v nice indeed! No excuses now: I need
to crack on.
On the lighting front, most of the box file layouts at Swanley a couple of
years ago had simple angle poise lamps. There are many types of bulb out there
to give different light temperatures, even dimmable and varicolour LED arrays,
so you can replicate dawn to dusk light angles and colour.
By the way, I used to live not far from the A3014 road here in the UK, and
would use it to visit the Gauge 0 Guild open day at Normandy, Surrey. See ?
Cheers,
David
?
snip
<A3014 is now virtually complete, so I have posted a couple of pics. I will probably need to consider a back scene, and as for lighting, I haven’t started to consider how to apply lighting to something so small?> ? ? ? ? |
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Re: A3014 Micro display
开云体育The other approach is to use a daylight filter gel over your light source. I've only ?used those for converting tungsen to daylight, but a good photography shop should be able to advise on the correct one for quartz halogen. Last time i bought some it cost me about�5 for a large sheet. Best from Sweden. George! Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------
From: "'Bruce Wood' bruce.wood@... [O14]" <O14@...> Date:02/07/2015 14:03 (GMT+01:00) To: O14@... Cc: Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ?
Thanks Frank – I can see I have some learning / experimenting to do!
?
Hopefully, this weekend I can start to improve my results?
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
?
From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:30 PM
To: O14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
Hi Bruce,
As
you are using a Canon EOS 550D then, yes, you need to explore white balance in
the settings. I use a Canon EOS 700D, and before that a Canon EOS 450D. You do
not need Photoshop to manipulate RAW as Canon have their own photoediting
software on the disk which comes with the camera or you can download it from
their site.
Best wishes
Frank
To: O14@... From: O14@... Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 18:35:09 +1000 Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
Hi Frank,
?
What you have written, is what I believe is the problem?
?
I have a Cannon EOS 550D , and I have not explored all the settings,
however I am sure the camera has the capability for all these different
settings.
?
I have also been advised to take pictures in RAW format, although, again, I
haven’t experimented with this, and do not properly understand the difference,
and I neither have, or know how to use Photoshop?
?
When I do a photographic session at home, and use the special photography
lighting, the colour balance is good. However, at exhibitions when I take
pictures with the display quartz halogen lighting, I then get the “yellow”
saturation. Maybe I need to experiment at home with the quartz halogen lights to
see how to remove the yellow, and get a better colour balance??
?
Thanks again for your tips, I think I need to get busy with experimenting
with all the different camera settings
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
?
From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 6:00 PM
To: O14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
?
Hi Bruce,
Regarding the colour balance of photographs it may be that
the photographers are altering the white balance setting on their cameras. On my
Canon DSLR I can alter the white balance to whatever the ambient light is. I can
set it for Tungsten, Flourescent etc. at the time of taking the photos. Also if
I take in RAW format photoshop has a setting to adjust the balance. This does
not apply if the photo is save as a JPG.
I
don't think that the compact digital cameras have as much
flexibility.
Best wishes
Frank Metcalf
To: O14@... From: O14@... Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 12:36:58 +1000 Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
Hi David,
?
Thank-you for the tip on the lighting. I was thinking of a desk lamp, the
type with the long swinging arm. (I think that is the same as what you have
suggested?)
?
My O16.5 display (which is approx 1 meter x 1 meter in the display area)
has an overhead gantry, with six adjustable quarts halogen lights.? A lot
of the pictures I have taken have a yellow bias. I have tried adjusting the
camera, without success, so I need to do some homework on possibly replacing the
current globes to give a better balance of colour? I don’t know why, however
pictures I have seen taken by other photographers of my display, do have a good
balance of colour, so maybe they are using a photograph editing application to
adjust the colour balance?
?
Thanks for the information on the A3014 motorway – I wasn’t aware of that!
I am a member of the Gauge O Guild.
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 6:43 AM
To: o14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
?
Bruce,
Now I've managed to see the photos - v nice indeed! No excuses now: I need
to crack on.
On the lighting front, most of the box file layouts at Swanley a couple of
years ago had simple angle poise lamps. There are many types of bulb out there
to give different light temperatures, even dimmable and varicolour LED arrays,
so you can replicate dawn to dusk light angles and colour.
By the way, I used to live not far from the A3014 road here in the UK, and
would use it to visit the Gauge 0 Guild open day at Normandy, Surrey. See ?
Cheers,
David
?
snip
<A3014 is now virtually complete, so I have posted a couple of pics. I will probably need to consider a back scene, and as for lighting, I haven’t started to consider how to apply lighting to something so small?> ? ? ? ? |
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Re: A3014 Micro display
开云体育Thanks Frank – I can see I have some learning / experimenting to do!
?
Hopefully, this weekend I can start to improve my results?
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
? From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:30 PM
To: O14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ?
?
Hi Bruce,
As
you are using a Canon EOS 550D then, yes, you need to explore white balance in
the settings. I use a Canon EOS 700D, and before that a Canon EOS 450D. You do
not need Photoshop to manipulate RAW as Canon have their own photoediting
software on the disk which comes with the camera or you can download it from
their site.
Best wishes
Frank
To: O14@... From: O14@... Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 18:35:09 +1000 Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
Hi Frank,
?
What you have written, is what I believe is the problem?
?
I have a Cannon EOS 550D , and I have not explored all the settings,
however I am sure the camera has the capability for all these different
settings.
?
I have also been advised to take pictures in RAW format, although, again, I
haven’t experimented with this, and do not properly understand the difference,
and I neither have, or know how to use Photoshop?
?
When I do a photographic session at home, and use the special photography
lighting, the colour balance is good. However, at exhibitions when I take
pictures with the display quartz halogen lighting, I then get the “yellow”
saturation. Maybe I need to experiment at home with the quartz halogen lights to
see how to remove the yellow, and get a better colour balance??
?
Thanks again for your tips, I think I need to get busy with experimenting
with all the different camera settings
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
?
From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 6:00 PM
To: O14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
?
Hi Bruce,
Regarding the colour balance of photographs it may be that
the photographers are altering the white balance setting on their cameras. On my
Canon DSLR I can alter the white balance to whatever the ambient light is. I can
set it for Tungsten, Flourescent etc. at the time of taking the photos. Also if
I take in RAW format photoshop has a setting to adjust the balance. This does
not apply if the photo is save as a JPG.
I
don't think that the compact digital cameras have as much
flexibility.
Best wishes
Frank Metcalf
To: O14@... From: O14@... Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 12:36:58 +1000 Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
Hi David,
?
Thank-you for the tip on the lighting. I was thinking of a desk lamp, the
type with the long swinging arm. (I think that is the same as what you have
suggested?)
?
My O16.5 display (which is approx 1 meter x 1 meter in the display area)
has an overhead gantry, with six adjustable quarts halogen lights.? A lot
of the pictures I have taken have a yellow bias. I have tried adjusting the
camera, without success, so I need to do some homework on possibly replacing the
current globes to give a better balance of colour? I don’t know why, however
pictures I have seen taken by other photographers of my display, do have a good
balance of colour, so maybe they are using a photograph editing application to
adjust the colour balance?
?
Thanks for the information on the A3014 motorway – I wasn’t aware of that!
I am a member of the Gauge O Guild.
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 6:43 AM
To: o14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
?
Bruce,
Now I've managed to see the photos - v nice indeed! No excuses now: I need
to crack on.
On the lighting front, most of the box file layouts at Swanley a couple of
years ago had simple angle poise lamps. There are many types of bulb out there
to give different light temperatures, even dimmable and varicolour LED arrays,
so you can replicate dawn to dusk light angles and colour.
By the way, I used to live not far from the A3014 road here in the UK, and
would use it to visit the Gauge 0 Guild open day at Normandy, Surrey. See ?
Cheers,
David
?
snip
<A3014 is now virtually complete, so I have posted a couple of pics. I will probably need to consider a back scene, and as for lighting, I haven’t started to consider how to apply lighting to something so small?> ? ? ? ? |
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Re: A3014 Micro display
开云体育Hi Bruce, As you are using a Canon EOS 550D then, yes, you need to explore white balance in the settings. I use a Canon EOS 700D, and before that a Canon EOS 450D. You do not need Photoshop to manipulate RAW as Canon have their own photoediting software on the disk which comes with the camera or you can download it from their site. Best wishes Frank To: O14@... From: O14@... Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 18:35:09 +1000 Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? Hi Frank,
?
What you have written, is what I believe is the problem?
?
I have a Cannon EOS 550D , and I have not explored all the settings,
however I am sure the camera has the capability for all these different
settings.
?
I have also been advised to take pictures in RAW format, although, again, I
haven’t experimented with this, and do not properly understand the difference,
and I neither have, or know how to use Photoshop?
?
When I do a photographic session at home, and use the special photography
lighting, the colour balance is good. However, at exhibitions when I take
pictures with the display quartz halogen lighting, I then get the “yellow”
saturation. Maybe I need to experiment at home with the quartz halogen lights to
see how to remove the yellow, and get a better colour balance??
?
Thanks again for your tips, I think I need to get busy with experimenting
with all the different camera settings
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
? From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 6:00 PM
To: O14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ?
?
Hi Bruce,
Regarding the colour balance of photographs it may be that
the photographers are altering the white balance setting on their cameras. On my
Canon DSLR I can alter the white balance to whatever the ambient light is. I can
set it for Tungsten, Flourescent etc. at the time of taking the photos. Also if
I take in RAW format photoshop has a setting to adjust the balance. This does
not apply if the photo is save as a JPG.
I
don't think that the compact digital cameras have as much
flexibility.
Best wishes
Frank Metcalf
To: O14@... From: O14@... Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 12:36:58 +1000 Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
Hi David,
?
Thank-you for the tip on the lighting. I was thinking of a desk lamp, the
type with the long swinging arm. (I think that is the same as what you have
suggested?)
?
My O16.5 display (which is approx 1 meter x 1 meter in the display area)
has an overhead gantry, with six adjustable quarts halogen lights.? A lot
of the pictures I have taken have a yellow bias. I have tried adjusting the
camera, without success, so I need to do some homework on possibly replacing the
current globes to give a better balance of colour? I don’t know why, however
pictures I have seen taken by other photographers of my display, do have a good
balance of colour, so maybe they are using a photograph editing application to
adjust the colour balance?
?
Thanks for the information on the A3014 motorway – I wasn’t aware of that!
I am a member of the Gauge O Guild.
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 6:43 AM
To: o14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
?
Bruce,
Now I've managed to see the photos - v nice indeed! No excuses now: I need
to crack on.
On the lighting front, most of the box file layouts at Swanley a couple of
years ago had simple angle poise lamps. There are many types of bulb out there
to give different light temperatures, even dimmable and varicolour LED arrays,
so you can replicate dawn to dusk light angles and colour.
By the way, I used to live not far from the A3014 road here in the UK, and
would use it to visit the Gauge 0 Guild open day at Normandy, Surrey. See ?
Cheers,
David
?
snip
<A3014 is now virtually complete, so I have posted a couple of pics. I will probably need to consider a back scene, and as for lighting, I haven’t started to consider how to apply lighting to something so small?> ? ? ? |
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Re: A3014 Micro display
开云体育Hi Frank,
?
What you have written, is what I believe is the problem?
?
I have a Cannon EOS 550D , and I have not explored all the settings,
however I am sure the camera has the capability for all these different
settings.
?
I have also been advised to take pictures in RAW format, although, again, I
haven’t experimented with this, and do not properly understand the difference,
and I neither have, or know how to use Photoshop?
?
When I do a photographic session at home, and use the special photography
lighting, the colour balance is good. However, at exhibitions when I take
pictures with the display quartz halogen lighting, I then get the “yellow”
saturation. Maybe I need to experiment at home with the quartz halogen lights to
see how to remove the yellow, and get a better colour balance??
?
Thanks again for your tips, I think I need to get busy with experimenting
with all the different camera settings
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
? From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 6:00 PM
To: O14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ?
?
Hi Bruce,
Regarding the colour balance of photographs it may be that
the photographers are altering the white balance setting on their cameras. On my
Canon DSLR I can alter the white balance to whatever the ambient light is. I can
set it for Tungsten, Flourescent etc. at the time of taking the photos. Also if
I take in RAW format photoshop has a setting to adjust the balance. This does
not apply if the photo is save as a JPG.
I
don't think that the compact digital cameras have as much
flexibility.
Best wishes
Frank Metcalf
To: O14@... From: O14@... Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 12:36:58 +1000 Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
Hi David,
?
Thank-you for the tip on the lighting. I was thinking of a desk lamp, the
type with the long swinging arm. (I think that is the same as what you have
suggested?)
?
My O16.5 display (which is approx 1 meter x 1 meter in the display area)
has an overhead gantry, with six adjustable quarts halogen lights.? A lot
of the pictures I have taken have a yellow bias. I have tried adjusting the
camera, without success, so I need to do some homework on possibly replacing the
current globes to give a better balance of colour? I don’t know why, however
pictures I have seen taken by other photographers of my display, do have a good
balance of colour, so maybe they are using a photograph editing application to
adjust the colour balance?
?
Thanks for the information on the A3014 motorway – I wasn’t aware of that!
I am a member of the Gauge O Guild.
?
Best regards
Bruce
?
From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 6:43 AM
To: o14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? ?
?
Bruce,
Now I've managed to see the photos - v nice indeed! No excuses now: I need
to crack on.
On the lighting front, most of the box file layouts at Swanley a couple of
years ago had simple angle poise lamps. There are many types of bulb out there
to give different light temperatures, even dimmable and varicolour LED arrays,
so you can replicate dawn to dusk light angles and colour.
By the way, I used to live not far from the A3014 road here in the UK, and
would use it to visit the Gauge 0 Guild open day at Normandy, Surrey. See ?
Cheers,
David
?
snip
<A3014 is now virtually complete, so I have posted a couple of pics. I will probably need to consider a back scene, and as for lighting, I haven’t started to consider how to apply lighting to something so small?> ? ? ? |
|
Re: A3014 Micro display
开云体育Hi Bruce, Regarding the colour balance of photographs it may be that the photographers are altering the white balance setting on their cameras. On my Canon DSLR I can alter the white balance to whatever the ambient light is. I can set it for Tungsten, Flourescent etc. at the time of taking the photos. Also if I take in RAW format photoshop has a setting to adjust the balance. This does not apply if the photo is save as a JPG. I don't think that the compact digital cameras have as much flexibility. Best wishes Frank Metcalf To: O14@... From: O14@... Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 12:36:58 +1000 Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ? Hi David,
?
Thank-you for the tip on the lighting. I was thinking of a desk lamp, the
type with the long swinging arm. (I think that is the same as what you have
suggested?)
?
My O16.5 display (which is approx 1 meter x 1 meter in the display area)
has an overhead gantry, with six adjustable quarts halogen lights.? A lot
of the pictures I have taken have a yellow bias. I have tried adjusting the
camera, without success, so I need to do some homework on possibly replacing the
current globes to give a better balance of colour? I don’t know why, however
pictures I have seen taken by other photographers of my display, do have a good
balance of colour, so maybe they are using a photograph editing application to
adjust the colour balance?
?
Thanks for the information on the A3014 motorway – I wasn’t aware of that!
I am a member of the Gauge O Guild.
?
Best regards
Bruce
? From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 6:43 AM
To: o14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ?
?
Bruce,
Now I've managed to see the photos - v nice indeed! No excuses now: I need
to crack on.
On the lighting front, most of the box file layouts at Swanley a couple of
years ago had simple angle poise lamps. There are many types of bulb out there
to give different light temperatures, even dimmable and varicolour LED arrays,
so you can replicate dawn to dusk light angles and colour.
By the way, I used to live not far from the A3014 road here in the UK, and
would use it to visit the Gauge 0 Guild open day at Normandy, Surrey. See ?
Cheers,
David
?
snip
<A3014 is now virtually complete, so I have posted a couple of pics. I will probably need to consider a back scene, and as for lighting, I haven’t started to consider how to apply lighting to something so small?> ? ? |
|
Re: A3014 Micro display
开云体育Hi David,
?
Thank-you for the tip on the lighting. I was thinking of a desk lamp, the
type with the long swinging arm. (I think that is the same as what you have
suggested?)
?
My O16.5 display (which is approx 1 meter x 1 meter in the display area)
has an overhead gantry, with six adjustable quarts halogen lights.? A lot
of the pictures I have taken have a yellow bias. I have tried adjusting the
camera, without success, so I need to do some homework on possibly replacing the
current globes to give a better balance of colour? I don’t know why, however
pictures I have seen taken by other photographers of my display, do have a good
balance of colour, so maybe they are using a photograph editing application to
adjust the colour balance?
?
Thanks for the information on the A3014 motorway – I wasn’t aware of that!
I am a member of the Gauge O Guild.
?
Best regards
Bruce
? From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 6:43 AM
To: o14@...
Subject: RE: [O14] A3014 Micro display ?
?
Bruce,
Now I've managed to see the photos - v nice indeed! No excuses now: I need
to crack on.
On the lighting front, most of the box file layouts at Swanley a couple of
years ago had simple angle poise lamps. There are many types of bulb out there
to give different light temperatures, even dimmable and varicolour LED arrays,
so you can replicate dawn to dusk light angles and colour.
By the way, I used to live not far from the A3014 road here in the UK, and
would use it to visit the Gauge 0 Guild open day at Normandy, Surrey. See ?
Cheers,
David
?
snip <A3014 is now virtually complete, so I have posted a couple of pics. I will probably need to consider a back scene, and as for lighting, I haven’t started to consider how to apply lighting to something so small?> ? ? |
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Re: A3014 Micro display
开云体育Hi Marshall,
?
I am not sure if I have a “fear” of failure. Yes – I get a lot of things
wrong, however typically there is no harm done, and just a matter of doing it a
second time, and hopefully better? As you say “ it took me a few tries before I
got it the way I wanted it.” – an appropriate statement!
?
At the end of the day, it is a hobby, and something you should enjoy doing
for relaxation and having a good time!
?
Cheers
Bruce
?
?
? From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:50 AM
To: O14@...
Subject: Re: [O14] A3014 Micro display ?
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I have several theories on this but the preeminent two are a "fear of failure" and "it is not a priority". ?
I hear the same excuses and we know, from experience, these are not true. I
feel all we can do, is make it appear to be some much fun that they overcome the
fear or make it a priority to have fun with us. The one thing I caution everyone on is to not add
to the excuses. Give positive reinforcement to overcome the
excuses.
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I don’t have the time - I only spend a few minutes a day, I want to keep
the family.
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I don’t have the money - neither do I, that is why I like to use "whatever"
and save money.
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I don’t have the knowledge or skill-sets to be able to build a model
railway - No one does without trying, it took me a few tries before I got it the
way I wanted it.
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I don’t have the room at home to store or operate a model railway - I build
small layouts in shoe boxes, it's great fun!
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On a side note, have WE seen this layout you speak of?!?!?
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Marshall Stull
www.smallmr.com
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---In O14@..., wrote : Hi Everyone, ? I recently displayed my O16.5 model railway to a group of modelling enthusiasts. Now I emphasise that this was a group of model railway people, and not the general public. I found it interesting (or disturbing?) the reasons some visitors gave for not being actively involved with an operating model railway. These include: I don’t have the time. I don’t have the money. I don’t have the knowledge or skill-sets to be able to build a model railway. I don’t have the room at home to store or operate a model railway. ? I don’t want to get into debate on the validity of all the reasons that surface on why something cannot be done, however I do sense this reluctance for many modellers to take the first step towards a model railway project. Model railways, can be any size, and can be built to any budget. What I feel is more important, is that you design a project which is easily achievable, and complements your personal situation. I regularly make mistakes with my modelling work. If it doesn’t look right, just re-do it. If you stick with basic materials, the cost is insignificant! I find every attempt of re-doing something, you quickly learn to improve your skills! I feel the most important aspect is that you enjoy what you are doing, find your hobby relaxing, and you are proud of your work. I know that everyone will have different levels of abilities, however you can only improve with “hands-on” work. ? Cheers Bruce ? ?
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开云体育Bruce, Now I've managed to see the photos - v nice indeed! No excuses now: I need to crack on. On the lighting front, most of the box file layouts at Swanley a couple of years ago had simple angle poise lamps. There are many types of bulb out there to give different light temperatures, even dimmable and varicolour LED arrays, so you can replicate dawn to dusk light angles and colour. By the way, I used to live not far from the A3014 road here in the UK, and would use it to visit the Gauge 0 Guild open day at Normandy, Surrey. See?? Cheers, David snip <A3014 is now virtually complete, so I have posted a couple of pics. I will probably need to consider a back scene, and as for lighting, I haven’t started to consider how to apply lighting to something so small?> |
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I have several theories on this but the preeminent two are a "fear of failure" and "it is not a priority".
I hear the same excuses and we know, from experience, these are not true. I feel all we can do, is make it appear to be some much fun that they overcome the fear or make it a priority to have fun with us.?The one thing I caution everyone on is to not add to the excuses. Give positive reinforcement to overcome the excuses. I don’t have the time - I only spend a few minutes a day, I want to keep the family. I don’t have the money - neither do I, that is why I like to use "whatever" and save money. I don’t have the knowledge or skill-sets to be able to build a model railway - No one does without trying, it took me a few tries before I got it the way I wanted it. I don’t have the room at home to store or operate a model railway - I build small layouts in shoe boxes, it's great fun! On a side note, have WE seen this layout you speak of?!?!? Marshall Stull www.smallmr.com ---In O14@..., <bruce.wood@...> wrote : Hi Everyone, ? I recently displayed my O16.5 model railway to a group of modelling enthusiasts. Now I emphasise that this was a group of model railway people, and not the general public. I found it interesting (or disturbing?) the reasons some visitors gave for not being actively involved with an operating model railway. These include: I don’t have the time. I don’t have the money. I don’t have the knowledge or skill-sets to be able to build a model railway. I don’t have the room at home to store or operate a model railway. ? I don’t want to get into debate on the validity of all the reasons that surface on why something cannot be done, however I do sense this reluctance for many modellers to take the first step towards a model railway project. Model railways, can be any size, and can be built to any budget. What I feel is more important, is that you design a project which is easily achievable, and complements your personal situation. I regularly make mistakes with my modelling work. If it doesn’t look right, just re-do it. If you stick with basic materials, the cost is insignificant! I find every attempt of re-doing something, you quickly learn to improve your skills! I feel the most important aspect is that you enjoy what you are doing, find your hobby relaxing, and you are proud of your work. I know that everyone will have different levels of abilities, however you can only improve with “hands-on” work. ? Cheers Bruce ? |
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开云体育Sorry about that, Ian. I did slightly edit the URL, but try this instead which is a different entry on the same blog: David On 30 Jun 2015, at 10:25, ianajng@... [O14] <O14@...> wrote:
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开云体育Hi Ian,
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I was able to have the full page populate! (I use Internet Explorer for my
browser).
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Cheers
Bruce
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Hello David, I just went to that address, and all I got was the headings down the side and a message "Sorry, the page you were looking for in this blog does not exist." By clicking on October 2014 down the right hand side, I was able to bring up a blog though. Cheers Ian J |
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开云体育Hi David,
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Nice web site, with some very useful links! I have added it to my
favourites list.
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I note that there are no recent entries – does that mean your modelling has
slowed down?
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Cheers
Bruce
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Thanks Bruce: I'll persist with my steam laptop and ultra slow broadband,
but the idea may help me resurrect my layout in a box from Swanley ExpoNG a few
years ago (although I've said that before - see ).
David
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开云体育Thanks Bruce: I'll persist with my steam laptop and ultra slow broadband, but the idea may help me resurrect my layout in a box from Swanley ExpoNG a few years ago (although I've said that before - see?). David On 29 Jun 2015, at 13:15, 'Bruce Wood' bruce.wood@... [O14] <O14@...> wrote:
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开云体育Hi Everyone, ? I recently displayed my O16.5 model railway to a group of modelling enthusiasts. Now I emphasise that this was a group of model railway people, and not the general public. I found it interesting (or disturbing?) the reasons some visitors gave for not being actively involved with an operating model railway. These include: I don’t have the time. I don’t have the money. I don’t have the knowledge or skill-sets to be able to build a model railway. I don’t have the room at home to store or operate a model railway. ? I don’t want to get into debate on the validity of all the reasons that surface on why something cannot be done, however I do sense this reluctance for many modellers to take the first step towards a model railway project. Model railways, can be any size, and can be built to any budget. What I feel is more important, is that you design a project which is easily achievable, and complements your personal situation. I regularly make mistakes with my modelling work. If it doesn’t look right, just re-do it. If you stick with basic materials, the cost is insignificant! I find every attempt of re-doing something, you quickly learn to improve your skills! I feel the most important aspect is that you enjoy what you are doing, find your hobby relaxing, and you are proud of your work. I know that everyone will have different levels of abilities, however you can only improve with “hands-on” work. ? Cheers Bruce ? From: mailto:O14@...
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:41 PM
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Echo that!? ?
What’s the phrase, “Two steps forward, one step back”?
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In my case its often “one step forward and two steps back”, though that
ignores the very valuable lessons I learn all the while.
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As a recent arm-chair-leaver-behind (and what an addiction that was!) I can
only offer the advice to “watchers" on this and other lists who haven’t managed
to “do”, just get out there and have a go - I’m spending a lot less time
‘planning’ stuff and gaining a lot of insight through ‘doing’ it instead.?
In spite of the two steps backward, the one step forward has been great...
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Gary
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开云体育Hi David,
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Unfortunately, I cannot help with a web site, however in need I could email
you the two pictures. The two pictures are approx 1.5 MB each. I am not sure if
you have any restrictions on your hotmail email, or your download speed?
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Please let me know if you would like them sent by email?
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Best regards
Bruce
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I'm itching to see it but either don't get into the photos area of
the Yahoo! group or my laptop sits in blackness. Any chance of the photos
getting posted to the website? David H ? To: O14@... From: O14@... Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:31:47 -0700 Subject: [O14] Re: A3014 Micro display ? Looks great Bruce. I doubt if I could do that much in 10
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开云体育Hi John, ? There really isn’t much space to fill in an “A3” footprint! When I started this project, I had some very clear requirements set in my own mind, and the A3 footprint set the boundaries in terms of size. In terms of track design, my preference is for continuous running over a shunting style of operation. Continuous operation with the train on “automatic pilot” I find is good for an exhibition environment, where I would rather have the time available to meet the visitors and explain the features of the model railway, rather than have my full concentration focused on operating the model railway. In this regard, it was an automatic decision for me to have an oval track plan. My experience with constructing models railways, the two tasks I personally loathe, is scratch-building points, and scratch-building large or difficult structures. Fortunately, A3014 does not have any points, and the two structures were very simplistic in design, and easily scratch-built, with readily available materials. With narrow gauge modelling, I like the freedoms with structure building and I also like my structures to have a rustic appearance. After having built the track, (which I think was just under three yards of rail) and constructed the two structures, there really wasn’t a lot of space left to fill with scenery! This project is easily achievable in 10 hours of “work time” however naturally there is more time needed waiting for paint or adhesive to dry etc. It may be ironic, however the standard gauge Beyer Peacock garratt which I am currently working on, when complete, (@ 740 mm)? will be significantly longer in length than this small micro display! ? Best regards Bruce ? From: mailto:O14@...
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Hi Bruce, ---In O14@..., wrote : Hi John,
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Thank-you for your nice compliment.
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Just clarifying the build-time, this is the time I was actually “working”
on the display, and not the lapsed time. The ten hours refers to the layout
only, (baseboard, structures, per way and scenery) and does not include locos or
rolling stock. Yesterday, I was working on the scenery, and the display was
outside all day, in the warmth of the sun. Every hour or so, I would sprinkle
some ground cover, and then spray some diluted PVA glue over the ground cover.
Every time I did this, my “work time” was 4 – 5 minutes. The display is very
simple in design, no points, so trackwork is straight-forward and simple. The
two structures (railway trestle bridge, and roadway bridge are very simple in
design, with basic materials ( 6 mm x 6 mm dressed timber from the hardware
store, and craft “ice cream” sticks or “coffee stirrers” from the variety
stores. The road bridge handrail is made from Evergreen. I use a NWSL Chopper
which helps to quickly cut styrene and craft wood to the required sizes.
Weathering is with cheap acrylic artists paints.
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Until you do a display on such a small footprint, you don’t realise how
small it is! I have 2? - 3 “trademark” accessory items which I like to
include in all my model railways, and whilst these items are small, I had
difficulty placing them, without making the scene look cluttered or unnatural.
When you put the (small) size of the display into perspective, you do understand
how quickly you can construct a display such as this, and I will stick with my
“10 hours of work time”.
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Best regards
Bruce
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Looks great Bruce. I doubt if I could do that much in 10
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David Hughes
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