Re: Slaters L & B coach kit
I understood that there were plans to launch at NGSW in Shepton in February but there is no mention of a stand in the show's pre-publicity. Seems a bit of a missed opportunity, IMHO.
Adrian TLO
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I have had this ?from David White this morning:
?The price will be ?80.00 and we are hoping to have the first coach kit ready for the end of the month.?
Get your credit cards ready guys!
Steve
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Re: Karlgarin rail and check clearances
I can confirm that at the 12" to foot model of Woody Bay
Station in North Devon, the specification to the manufacturer for the?up
(Barnstaple) end crossover turnouts was an actual 1 in 8. All other pointwork
was made in situ so the geometry varies. However, 1 in 6 - even for yard sidings
- would be tight given the length of the fixed wheelbase of a MW, From memory
those in Pilton Yard were mostly great than 1 in 8 apart from the siding to the
turntable.
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Cheers
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KeithV??
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Hi Steve
When preparing the Templot plans for the L&B Lynton project I am
working on, which were drawn over the Measured and Drawn plan, it became clear
most of the turnouts were 1 in 10 and one was nearer 1 in 12. Only the crossover
turnouts are closer to 1 in 8. I hope this helps.
Your project sounds really interesting. Please keep us
posted.
Regards John
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On 31 Dec 2016, at 17:19, "stephenjhowe@...
[O14]" < O14@...> wrote:
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Hi John,
Looking at your Templot downloads for the L&B 1:8 turnout, a quick
query;? was 1:8 a standard on the L&B or did they use tighter
radii? i.e 1:6 in yards etc?
Pondering a potential new scheme for later in the New Year... been
researching in the Cornwall Records Office on the Padstow, Bedruthan &
Mawgan Light Railway (1902). Sadly never got built due to lack of capital and
difficult geography, however, had they done a bit of lateral thinking and
adopted narrow gauge instead of the proposed standard......
I'm saying no more for the present!
Bests for 2017
Steve
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Re: Karlgarin rail and check clearances
Hi Steve
When preparing the Templot plans for the L&B Lynton project I am working on, which were drawn over the Measured and Drawn plan, it became clear most of the turnouts were 1 in 10 and one was nearer 1 in 12. Only the crossover turnouts are closer to 1 in 8. I hope this helps.
Your project sounds really interesting. Please keep us posted.
Regards John
Sent from
On 31 Dec 2016, at 17:19, "stephenjhowe@... [O14]" < O14@...> wrote:
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Hi John,
Looking at your Templot downloads for the L&B 1:8 turnout, a quick query;? was 1:8 a standard on the L&B or did they use tighter radii? i.e 1:6 in yards etc?
Pondering a potential new scheme for later in the New Year... been researching in the Cornwall Records Office on the Padstow, Bedruthan & Mawgan Light Railway (1902). Sadly never got built due to lack of capital and difficult geography, however, had they done a bit of lateral thinking and adopted narrow gauge instead of the proposed standard......
I'm saying no more for the present!
Bests for 2017
Steve
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Re: Karlgarin rail and check clearances
Hi John,
Looking at your Templot downloads for the L&B 1:8 turnout, a quick query;? was 1:8 a standard on the L&B or did they use tighter radii? i.e 1:6 in yards etc?
Pondering a potential new scheme for later in the New Year... been researching in the Cornwall Records Office on the Padstow, Bedruthan & Mawgan Light Railway (1902). Sadly never got built due to lack of capital and difficult geography, however, had they done a bit of lateral thinking and adopted narrow gauge instead of the proposed standard......
I'm saying no more for the present!
Bests for 2017
Steve
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Wow!? Excellent stuff - she really looks to be having fun.
The trouble is, if she has enjoyed herself so much she may want to visit her twin sister more often!
Thanks John.
Cheers
David
From: "jclutterbuck2001@... [O14]"
To: O14@...
Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2016, 20:59
Subject: [O14] A visitor to the PLR
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David John's K1 (built by Paul Berntsen) came to visit the PLR over
Christmas. This is it trying out the big climb (1 in 28? with 26" radius
reverse curves) with a few wagons on the back:
There's a couple of posed photos on my blog at:
John
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Nice to see that running.? Paul Bernsten has done some wonderful modelling. Rod Hutchinson
Mooroolbark
Australia
Registrar: Australian Narrow Gauge Railway Convention, Easter 2017
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On 30 Dec 2016 07:59, " jclutterbuck2001@... [O14]" < O14@...> wrote:
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David John's K1 (built by Paul Berntsen) came to visit the PLR over
Christmas. This is it trying out the big climb (1 in 28? with 26" radius
reverse curves) with a few wagons on the back:
There's a couple of posed photos on my blog at:
John
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David John's K1 (built by Paul Berntsen) came to visit the PLR over
Christmas. This is it trying out the big climb (1 in 28? with 26" radius
reverse curves) with a few wagons on the back: There's a couple of posed photos on my blog at:
John
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I hope everyone has had a good Christmas, enjoyed your favourite food, drink and friends/family, got some things you wanted and perhaps even got some modelling in.
I have had a very busy year with a new full-time job which hampered? progress on my trackwork commission?? ; I have now got a visiting Garratt that needs some attention - I'll try and pose some double-heading shots soon. And of course I've also got Zamzoodled and help with running Narrow Gauge and Industrial Review.? Next year will be even more busy as all my three children are getting married!
Best regards to all and hope you all have a happy New Year
John
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Yes a set were done at the same time as we did Merddin Emrys over a Christmas and New Year working party 11 years ago to take advantage of the massive jig we built at the time out of two overhead crane beams but which had to be dismantled before the full time works staff returned to work in the New Year. At that time they weren¡¯t completed as, whilst in the jig, they were only welded to be structurally sound and solid enough to be lifted out of the jig. Unlike the pair we did for Merddin they were seal welded and made water tight. There wasn¡¯t time. They were, and still are, stored adjacent to 13 road at BL. ? The initial plan was to use them on the Earl at the next 10 year overhaul a few years later. However, as is often the case with loco overhauls and availability circumstances changed. To install the new tanks would have involved completely rebuilding the rest of the superstructure and re-plumbing the entire engine resulting in it being out of traffic for two years. The motive power situation at the time was such that we couldn¡¯t afford it out of traffic that long so its present shape got a very quick boiler overhaul and sent back out into traffic. ? The tanks were a product of their time and things move on. They would have produced a Merddin clone, they need finishing, they¡¯d need grit blasting before welding but they¡¯re also oil burner tanks so they¡¯d need gas axing to install coal bunkers. ? They¡¯ll probably never get used now as things move further on because¡¡.. ? Any keeping of The Square will involve keeping it square. ? Whist the new boilers will fit the Earl and Merddin the new loco will be built around the boiler to best use the shape. The cost of retro work to the stored tanks would almost certainly be more than making new with new steel to the shape actually wanted. The final persuader is that technology moves on. The new engine is designed in 3D CAD so we can see how it all fits together with the ability to make subtle changes and the ability to test the assemblies complete with tab and slot construction like an etched kit but in 6mm steel. When happy that same 3D CAD program produces a parts list and a cutting ?and bending list ready for loading directly into a laser so it gets e-mailed off to our supplier and 10 days later a giant loco kit arrives. Makes a lot more sense than beggaring about with the 11 year old ones ? Paul ? ? ? Am I correct in thinking that you built some new tanks for her a few years ago? Or was that one of the others you done that for?
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----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 8:06 PM Subject: [O14] Re: Ffestiniog Earl Oh Goodie, someone else making up nicknames for The Square and claiming they'r in popular use. That't the third this year I can think of ?:-) Someone on one of the photographic groups claimed it was known as the box and that it was all he'd ever heard it called. He got ripped to shreds as no one had ever heard of him either. I fired it in its first year, it was my regular engine for around three years and I drive to this day. Its only popular nickname is The Square or, more recently, The Mighty One (part of the campaign for keeping it) Occasional incident based temporary nickames have been The Dustbin with a loose lid - it has a sliding sun roof and it used to rattle The Amoco Cadiz - contemporary with a certain doomed supertanker its oil tanks split and dribbled oil the length of the railway, Don't hold your breathe waiting for a kit from me
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Hi Paul
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Am I correct in thinking that you built some
new tanks for her a few years ago? Or was that one of the others you done that
for?
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Regards
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Colin R
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Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 8:06
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Subject: [O14] Re: Ffestiniog Earl
Oh
Goodie, someone else making up nicknames for The Square and claiming they'r in
popular use.
That't the third this year I can think of ?:-)
Someone on one of the photographic groups claimed it was known as the box
and that it was all he'd ever heard it called. He got ripped to shreds as no
one had ever heard of him either.
I fired it in its first year, it was my regular engine for around three
years and I drive to this day. Its only popular nickname is The Square or,
more recently, The Mighty One (part of the campaign for keeping it)
Occasional incident based temporary nickames have been
The Dustbin with a loose lid - it has a sliding sun roof and it used to
rattle
The Amoco Cadiz - contemporary with a certain doomed supertanker its oil
tanks split and dribbled oil the length of the railway,
Don't hold your breathe waiting for a kit from me
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Re: Karlgarin rail and check clearances
We used to run a bead of solder along the rail foot to bond them together when handlaying code 70 for Sn3. Just hold them together, touch with flux, drop solder in or use solder paint, apply heat.
Dave Eggleston
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Re: Karlgarin rail and check clearances
Thanks John,
How very convenient!
presumably there might be some way of bonding the rails together with strips beneath. I have used Karlgarin rail before, but it was in 16.5. It looked really good though!
Steve
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Re: Karlgarin rail and check clearances
Hi Stephen,
I'm making some L&B pointwork at the moment with Karlgarin code 82 rail so am able to advise that two rails side by side do indeed produce a 1mm gap. It does of course mean you cannot have spikes or clips in-between the rails or the gap will be too big.
John
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Karlgarin rail and check clearances
Looking into using the Karlgarin code 82 rail to make some 0-14 pointwork and re-reading John Clutterbuck's invaluable articles on spiked trackwork.
I note the 'recommended' standard check rail and wing rail clearance is 1mm which should be fairly easy to achieve using 1mm thick brass or steel bar to make a feeler gauge similar to that used by the Scalefour Society. My query is this: given the prototypically wider foot of the Karlgarin rail, when two rails are set side by side i.e in a checkrail or wingrail situation, with the rail ?foot touching its neighbour, does this produce a 1mm gap or would the foot have to be reduced to allow the rail heads to come closer together?
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Oh Goodie, someone else making up nicknames for The Square and claiming they'r in popular use.
That't the third this year I can think of ?:-)
Someone on one of the photographic groups claimed it was known as the box and that it was all he'd ever heard it called. He got ripped to shreds as no one had ever heard of him either.
I fired it in its first year, it was my regular engine for around three years and I drive to this day. Its only popular nickname is The Square or, more recently, The Mighty One (part of the campaign for keeping it)
Occasional incident based temporary nickames have been The Dustbin with a loose lid - it has a sliding sun roof and it used to rattle The Amoco Cadiz - contemporary with a certain doomed supertanker its oil tanks split and dribbled oil the length of the railway,
Don't hold your breathe waiting for a kit from me
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Re: O14 Backwoods Garratt kit for sale
Hi all
I have a buyer for the Garratt
That you to those that contacted me.
Also my mistake the price was Canadian not USD
I apologize.
Regards
Keith
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Hi Mark,
I would not have thought you'd need a kit to model it, it's nickname of "The Plasticard Fairlie," is surely enough to indicate all one would need to make a model of it !!? (Said with tongue firmly in cheek. )
Cheers
Ian J
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As a Ffestiniog Railway modeller (I must?admit to?having more of a kit collection than model collection), I was disappointed to hear that the 1979 double Fairlie 'Earl of Merioneth' was to be taken out of service due to the fact that many components are worn including the boiler, cradle and side tanks. My understanding was that she was to be scrapped although?some components?such as the bogies which are relatively recent would be used under a new Fairlie to be named 'James Spooner'. I now learn that 'The Earl' will be stored until there is enough time and resources to restore her. I'm glad about this because although she's not everyone's cup of tea in terms of locomotive design, I kind of like the old brick... I'm Just hoping EDM will develop?a kit?to go alongside their model of Merddin Emrys, which will be another?one for me to collect.
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Paul Martin