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Noise on Frequency


Jim
 

Hello all, Happy Labor Day!

I'm sitting on 14.105 and trying to download the bulletins on SOLBBS and there's a "warbling" noise that seems to be right on frequency.
I've got a strong connection between me and N0HI but it's really making throughput tough.?? What is it?
My guess is it's VARA but I've never used that mode so can't tell for sure.
Is anyone else experiencing it?
I've been on the frequency now for about a week really enjoying my HF packet but this is pretty much shutting me down.??
I hope it isn't anything permanent.
Jim W1JT


Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman
 

Yes, 14.105 is the primary 20m calling frequency for VarAC You'll be fighting a whole lot of Vara users there. If you QSY up or down 250hz to 750hz, you'll have better luck.

Wayne Carpenter
73 from KN2Z


On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 09:45:08 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:


Hello all, Happy Labor Day!

I'm sitting on 14.105 and trying to download the bulletins on SOLBBS and there's a "warbling" noise that seems to be right on frequency.
I've got a strong connection between me and N0HI but it's really making throughput tough.?? What is it?
My guess is it's VARA but I've never used that mode so can't tell for sure.
Is anyone else experiencing it?
I've been on the frequency now for about a week really enjoying my HF packet but this is pretty much shutting me down.??
I hope it isn't anything permanent.
Jim W1JT


Jim
 

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Thanks Wayne.....

I can QSY but can't help but feel that my connections will be limited if not impossible unless everyone moves....

Too bad that VARA decided to sit right here.....


Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:04, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io wrote:

Yes, 14.105 is the primary 20m calling frequency for VarAC You'll be fighting a whole lot of Vara users there. If you QSY up or down 250hz to 750hz, you'll have better luck.

Wayne Carpenter
73 from KN2Z


On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 09:45:08 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:


Hello all, Happy Labor Day!

I'm sitting on 14.105 and trying to download the bulletins on SOLBBS and there's a "warbling" noise that seems to be right on frequency.
I've got a strong connection between me and N0HI but it's really making throughput tough.?? What is it?
My guess is it's VARA but I've never used that mode so can't tell for sure.
Is anyone else experiencing it?
I've been on the frequency now for about a week really enjoying my HF packet but this is pretty much shutting me down.??
I hope it isn't anything permanent.
Jim W1JT


Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman
 

I understand, but it's a bit like parking on one of the FT8 frequencies.. just too popular for too many operators to use it for anything else.

73 and all the best!

Wayne Carpenter
73 from KN2Z


On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:11:09 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:



Thanks Wayne.....

I can QSY but can't help but feel that my connections will be limited if not impossible unless everyone moves....

Too bad that VARA decided to sit right here.....


Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:04, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io wrote:
Yes, 14.105 is the primary 20m calling frequency for VarAC You'll be fighting a whole lot of Vara users there. If you QSY up or down 250hz to 750hz, you'll have better luck.

Wayne Carpenter
73 from KN2Z


On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 09:45:08 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:


Hello all, Happy Labor Day!

I'm sitting on 14.105 and trying to download the bulletins on SOLBBS and there's a "warbling" noise that seems to be right on frequency.
I've got a strong connection between me and N0HI but it's really making throughput tough.?? What is it?
My guess is it's VARA but I've never used that mode so can't tell for sure.
Is anyone else experiencing it?
I've been on the frequency now for about a week really enjoying my HF packet but this is pretty much shutting me down.??
I hope it isn't anything permanent.
Jim W1JT


Jim
 

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I suppose.? I spin the HF dial however and find so many quiet places...it's like when I'm in the SSB portion of the band and it's dead quiet except that one frequency where two people are calling CQ on top of each other.?? Naturally I realize that they probably can't even hear each other but I do hear that happen quite often.

Anyway, it's all good.?? I may move off of 20 meters if this is going to be the norm and try 40.??

Thanks for your insight.? I hope you and yours are having a nice Labor Day!


73 Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:15, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io wrote:

I understand, but it's a bit like parking on one of the FT8 frequencies.. just too popular for too many operators to use it for anything else.

73 and all the best!

Wayne Carpenter
73 from KN2Z


On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:11:09 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:



Thanks Wayne.....

I can QSY but can't help but feel that my connections will be limited if not impossible unless everyone moves....

Too bad that VARA decided to sit right here.....


Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:04, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io wrote:
Yes, 14.105 is the primary 20m calling frequency for VarAC You'll be fighting a whole lot of Vara users there. If you QSY up or down 250hz to 750hz, you'll have better luck.

Wayne Carpenter
73 from KN2Z


On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 09:45:08 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:


Hello all, Happy Labor Day!

I'm sitting on 14.105 and trying to download the bulletins on SOLBBS and there's a "warbling" noise that seems to be right on frequency.
I've got a strong connection between me and N0HI but it's really making throughput tough.?? What is it?
My guess is it's VARA but I've never used that mode so can't tell for sure.
Is anyone else experiencing it?
I've been on the frequency now for about a week really enjoying my HF packet but this is pretty much shutting me down.??
I hope it isn't anything permanent.
Jim W1JT


Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman
 

Just a heads up. VarAC also utilizes 7.105 as well as 3.590, 10.13, 18.105, 21.105, 24.905, and 28.105. Now, with all that said, I rarely? hear any Vara traffic (at least via VarAC) on anything other than the 20m and 40m "channels".? And also, packet and Vara don't really conflict much. I've seen Olivia being used right on top of a Vara QSO and it didn't seem to have any issues at all.? You might try it sometime and see how it goes. You know.. it's easier to say 'oops, sorry' than 'may I?'?EmojiEmoji

Wayne Carpenter
73 from KN2Z


On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:28:54 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:


I suppose.? I spin the HF dial however and find so many quiet places...it's like when I'm in the SSB portion of the band and it's dead quiet except that one frequency where two people are calling CQ on top of each other.?? Naturally I realize that they probably can't even hear each other but I do hear that happen quite often.

Anyway, it's all good.?? I may move off of 20 meters if this is going to be the norm and try 40.??

Thanks for your insight.? I hope you and yours are having a nice Labor Day!


73 Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:15, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io wrote:
I understand, but it's a bit like parking on one of the FT8 frequencies.. just too popular for too many operators to use it for anything else.

73 and all the best!

Wayne Carpenter
73 from KN2Z


On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:11:09 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:



Thanks Wayne.....

I can QSY but can't help but feel that my connections will be limited if not impossible unless everyone moves....

Too bad that VARA decided to sit right here.....


Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:04, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io wrote:
Yes, 14.105 is the primary 20m calling frequency for VarAC You'll be fighting a whole lot of Vara users there. If you QSY up or down 250hz to 750hz, you'll have better luck.

Wayne Carpenter
73 from KN2Z


On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 09:45:08 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:


Hello all, Happy Labor Day!

I'm sitting on 14.105 and trying to download the bulletins on SOLBBS and there's a "warbling" noise that seems to be right on frequency.
I've got a strong connection between me and N0HI but it's really making throughput tough.?? What is it?
My guess is it's VARA but I've never used that mode so can't tell for sure.
Is anyone else experiencing it?
I've been on the frequency now for about a week really enjoying my HF packet but this is pretty much shutting me down.??
I hope it isn't anything permanent.
Jim W1JT


 

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VarAC uses 14105 as a calling frequency, yes, but it¡¯s USB so there isn¡¯t usually interference with packet on LSB. This could be a misunderstanding or operator error by a new VarAC user.?

Scott
W3RED

On Sep 4, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io <mwcarpe@...> wrote:

?
Just a heads up. VarAC also utilizes 7.105 as well as 3.590, 10.13, 18.105, 21.105, 24.905, and 28.105. Now, with all that said, I rarely? hear any Vara traffic (at least via VarAC) on anything other than the 20m and 40m "channels".? And also, packet and Vara don't really conflict much. I've seen Olivia being used right on top of a Vara QSO and it didn't seem to have any issues at all.? You might try it sometime and see how it goes. You know.. it's easier to say 'oops, sorry' than 'may I?'?EmojiEmoji

Wayne Carpenter
73 from KN2Z


On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:28:54 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:


I suppose.? I spin the HF dial however and find so many quiet places...it's like when I'm in the SSB portion of the band and it's dead quiet except that one frequency where two people are calling CQ on top of each other.?? Naturally I realize that they probably can't even hear each other but I do hear that happen quite often.

Anyway, it's all good.?? I may move off of 20 meters if this is going to be the norm and try 40.??

Thanks for your insight.? I hope you and yours are having a nice Labor Day!


73 Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:15, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io wrote:
I understand, but it's a bit like parking on one of the FT8 frequencies.. just too popular for too many operators to use it for anything else.

73 and all the best!

Wayne Carpenter
73 from KN2Z


On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:11:09 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:



Thanks Wayne.....

I can QSY but can't help but feel that my connections will be limited if not impossible unless everyone moves....

Too bad that VARA decided to sit right here.....


Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:04, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io wrote:
Yes, 14.105 is the primary 20m calling frequency for VarAC You'll be fighting a whole lot of Vara users there. If you QSY up or down 250hz to 750hz, you'll have better luck.

Wayne Carpenter
73 from KN2Z


On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 09:45:08 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:


Hello all, Happy Labor Day!

I'm sitting on 14.105 and trying to download the bulletins on SOLBBS and there's a "warbling" noise that seems to be right on frequency.
I've got a strong connection between me and N0HI but it's really making throughput tough.?? What is it?
My guess is it's VARA but I've never used that mode so can't tell for sure.
Is anyone else experiencing it?
I've been on the frequency now for about a week really enjoying my HF packet but this is pretty much shutting me down.??
I hope it isn't anything permanent.
Jim W1JT


 

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VARA has been tearing it up for awhile, even though some argue otherwise. Wait awhile and their transmission will be over. USB/LSB it still destroys the packets.

?

Bill

AC0VC

?

?

Sent from for Windows

?

From: Scott - W3RED via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 10:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [network105] Noise on Frequency

?

VarAC uses 14105 as a calling frequency, yes, but it¡¯s USB so there isn¡¯t usually interference with packet on LSB. This could be a misunderstanding or operator error by a new VarAC user.?

Scott

W3RED



On Sep 4, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io <mwcarpe@...> wrote:

?

Just a heads up. VarAC also utilizes 7.105 as well as 3.590, 10.13, 18.105, 21.105, 24.905, and 28.105. Now, with all that said, I rarely? hear any Vara traffic (at least via VarAC) on anything other than the 20m and 40m "channels".? And also, packet and Vara don't really conflict much. I've seen Olivia being used right on top of a Vara QSO and it didn't seem to have any issues at all.? You might try it sometime and see how it goes. You know.. it's easier to say 'oops, sorry' than 'may I?'?EmojiEmoji

?

Wayne Carpenter

73 from KN2Z

?

?

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:28:54 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:

?

?

I suppose.? I spin the HF dial however and find so many quiet places...it's like when I'm in the SSB portion of the band and it's dead quiet except that one frequency where two people are calling CQ on top of each other.?? Naturally I realize that they probably can't even hear each other but I do hear that happen quite often.

Anyway, it's all good.?? I may move off of 20 meters if this is going to be the norm and try 40.??

Thanks for your insight.? I hope you and yours are having a nice Labor Day!

?

73 Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:15, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io wrote:

I understand, but it's a bit like parking on one of the FT8 frequencies.. just too popular for too many operators to use it for anything else.

?

73 and all the best!

?

Wayne Carpenter

73 from KN2Z

?

?

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:11:09 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:

?

?

?

Thanks Wayne....

I can QSY but can't help but feel that my connections will be limited if not impossible unless everyone moves....

Too bad that VARA decided to sit right here....

?

Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:04, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io wrote:

Yes, 14.105 is the primary 20m calling frequency for VarAC You'll be fighting a whole lot of Vara users there. If you QSY up or down 250hz to 750hz, you'll have better luck.

?

Wayne Carpenter

73 from KN2Z

?

?

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 09:45:08 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:

?

?

Hello all, Happy Labor Day!

I'm sitting on 14.105 and trying to download the bulletins on SOLBBS and there's a "warbling" noise that seems to be right on frequency.
I've got a strong connection between me and N0HI but it's really making throughput tough.?? What is it?
My guess is it's VARA but I've never used that mode so can't tell for sure.
Is anyone else experiencing it?
I've been on the frequency now for about a week really enjoying my HF packet but this is pretty much shutting me down.??
I hope it isn't anything permanent.
Jim W1JT

?


 

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Who established 14.105 as a Vara calling channel?



Prof. Chris Lance
www.ww2bsa.org
www.EastNetPacket.com
www.Network105.org
Radio Station Manager
Mount Allamuchy Scout Reservation
ARRL Life Member


-------- Original message --------
From: Bill - AC0VC <wjburek@...>
Date: 9/4/23 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [network105] Noise on Frequency

VARA has been tearing it up for awhile, even though some argue otherwise. Wait awhile and their transmission will be over. USB/LSB it still destroys the packets.

?

Bill

AC0VC

?

?

Sent from for Windows

?

From: Scott - W3RED via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 10:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [network105] Noise on Frequency

?

VarAC uses 14105 as a calling frequency, yes, but it¡¯s USB so there isn¡¯t usually interference with packet on LSB. This could be a misunderstanding or operator error by a new VarAC user.?

Scott

W3RED



On Sep 4, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io <mwcarpe@...> wrote:

?

Just a heads up. VarAC also utilizes 7.105 as well as 3.590, 10.13, 18.105, 21.105, 24.905, and 28.105. Now, with all that said, I rarely? hear any Vara traffic (at least via VarAC) on anything other than the 20m and 40m "channels".? And also, packet and Vara don't really conflict much. I've seen Olivia being used right on top of a Vara QSO and it didn't seem to have any issues at all.? You might try it sometime and see how it goes. You know.. it's easier to say 'oops, sorry' than 'may I?'?EmojiEmoji

?

Wayne Carpenter

73 from KN2Z

?

?

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:28:54 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:

?

?

I suppose.? I spin the HF dial however and find so many quiet places...it's like when I'm in the SSB portion of the band and it's dead quiet except that one frequency where two people are calling CQ on top of each other.?? Naturally I realize that they probably can't even hear each other but I do hear that happen quite often.

Anyway, it's all good.?? I may move off of 20 meters if this is going to be the norm and try 40.??

Thanks for your insight.? I hope you and yours are having a nice Labor Day!

?

73 Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:15, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io wrote:

I understand, but it's a bit like parking on one of the FT8 frequencies.. just too popular for too many operators to use it for anything else.

?

73 and all the best!

?

Wayne Carpenter

73 from KN2Z

?

?

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:11:09 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:

?

?

?

Thanks Wayne....

I can QSY but can't help but feel that my connections will be limited if not impossible unless everyone moves....

Too bad that VARA decided to sit right here....

?

Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:04, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io wrote:

Yes, 14.105 is the primary 20m calling frequency for VarAC You'll be fighting a whole lot of Vara users there. If you QSY up or down 250hz to 750hz, you'll have better luck.

?

Wayne Carpenter

73 from KN2Z

?

?

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 09:45:08 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:

?

?

Hello all, Happy Labor Day!

I'm sitting on 14.105 and trying to download the bulletins on SOLBBS and there's a "warbling" noise that seems to be right on frequency.
I've got a strong connection between me and N0HI but it's really making throughput tough.?? What is it?
My guess is it's VARA but I've never used that mode so can't tell for sure.
Is anyone else experiencing it?
I've been on the frequency now for about a week really enjoying my HF packet but this is pretty much shutting me down.??
I hope it isn't anything permanent.
Jim W1JT

?


 

The author of the software, Irad Deutsch?4Z1AC.

Thank you,
--Brad Brown Jr.


On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 6:21?PM Chris Lance WW2BSA <Ww2bsa@...> wrote:
Who established 14.105 as a Vara calling channel?



Prof. Chris Lance
Radio Station Manager
Mount Allamuchy Scout Reservation
ARRL Life Member


-------- Original message --------
From: Bill - AC0VC <wjburek@...>
Date: 9/4/23 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [network105] Noise on Frequency

VARA has been tearing it up for awhile, even though some argue otherwise. Wait awhile and their transmission will be over. USB/LSB it still destroys the packets.

?

Bill

AC0VC

?

?

Sent from for Windows

?

From: Scott - W3RED via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 10:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [network105] Noise on Frequency

?

VarAC uses 14105 as a calling frequency, yes, but it¡¯s USB so there isn¡¯t usually interference with packet on LSB. This could be a misunderstanding or operator error by a new VarAC user.?

Scott

W3RED



On Sep 4, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via <mwcarpe=[email protected]> wrote:

?

Just a heads up. VarAC also utilizes 7.105 as well as 3.590, 10.13, 18.105, 21.105, 24.905, and 28.105. Now, with all that said, I rarely? hear any Vara traffic (at least via VarAC) on anything other than the 20m and 40m "channels".? And also, packet and Vara don't really conflict much. I've seen Olivia being used right on top of a Vara QSO and it didn't seem to have any issues at all.? You might try it sometime and see how it goes. You know.. it's easier to say 'oops, sorry' than 'may I?'?EmojiEmoji

?

Wayne Carpenter

73 from KN2Z

?

?

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:28:54 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:

?

?

I suppose.? I spin the HF dial however and find so many quiet places...it's like when I'm in the SSB portion of the band and it's dead quiet except that one frequency where two people are calling CQ on top of each other.?? Naturally I realize that they probably can't even hear each other but I do hear that happen quite often.

Anyway, it's all good.?? I may move off of 20 meters if this is going to be the norm and try 40.??

Thanks for your insight.? I hope you and yours are having a nice Labor Day!

?

73 Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:15, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via wrote:

I understand, but it's a bit like parking on one of the FT8 frequencies.. just too popular for too many operators to use it for anything else.

?

73 and all the best!

?

Wayne Carpenter

73 from KN2Z

?

?

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:11:09 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:

?

?

?

Thanks Wayne....

I can QSY but can't help but feel that my connections will be limited if not impossible unless everyone moves....

Too bad that VARA decided to sit right here....

?

Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:04, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via wrote:

Yes, 14.105 is the primary 20m calling frequency for VarAC You'll be fighting a whole lot of Vara users there. If you QSY up or down 250hz to 750hz, you'll have better luck.

?

Wayne Carpenter

73 from KN2Z

?

?

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 09:45:08 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:

?

?

Hello all, Happy Labor Day!

I'm sitting on 14.105 and trying to download the bulletins on SOLBBS and there's a "warbling" noise that seems to be right on frequency.
I've got a strong connection between me and N0HI but it's really making throughput tough.?? What is it?
My guess is it's VARA but I've never used that mode so can't tell for sure.
Is anyone else experiencing it?
I've been on the frequency now for about a week really enjoying my HF packet but this is pretty much shutting me down.??
I hope it isn't anything permanent.
Jim W1JT

?


 

Hi all. Varac uses 14105 USB as a calling Freq, beacons etc. The problem is with the QSO channels, those are +- and I am pretty sure the lower ones hit the Net105 QRG. When operating varac, not very often though, I always use the upper channels for QSYing.
And, again, you have got the Winlink frequencies. Worth checking those on the respective website. There might be some new stns emerging in your area etc.
M0 IPU -9/15 YO3 FCA mobile.?


 

If I am not mistaken (I do not use it) VARAC is typically rather narrow at 500Hz so even with tight narrow filters a nearby VARAC will certainly result in QRM.

I think it worth noting though that most but certainly not all Winlink use of VARA on HF can with decent signal paths be quite wide at nearly 3k Hz and if you check as Julian suggested you will likely find a bunch jammed around both the NET105 and the NET40 freqs... and at upwards of 3k Hz wide it can be nearly impossible to avoid the Winlink QRM when several are active simultaneously on either side of the ax25 freqs.

73 de Rich WA3WLH


Gary - K7EK
 











On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 09:05:37 AM EDT, Bradley, KC1JMH <bradbrownjr@...> wrote:


The author of the software, Irad Deutsch?4Z1AC.

Thank you,
--Brad Brown Jr.


On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 6:21?PM Chris Lance WW2BSA <Ww2bsa@...> wrote:
Who established 14.105 as a Vara calling channel?



Prof. Chris Lance
Radio Station Manager
Mount Allamuchy Scout Reservation
ARRL Life Member


-------- Original message --------
From: Bill - AC0VC <wjburek@...>
Date: 9/4/23 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [network105] Noise on Frequency

VARA has been tearing it up for awhile, even though some argue otherwise. Wait awhile and their transmission will be over. USB/LSB it still destroys the packets.

?

Bill

AC0VC

?

?

Sent from for Windows

?

From: Scott - W3RED via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 10:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [network105] Noise on Frequency

?

VarAC uses 14105 as a calling frequency, yes, but it¡¯s USB so there isn¡¯t usually interference with packet on LSB. This could be a misunderstanding or operator error by a new VarAC user.?

Scott

W3RED



On Sep 4, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via <mwcarpe=[email protected]> wrote:

?

Just a heads up. VarAC also utilizes 7.105 as well as 3.590, 10.13, 18.105, 21.105, 24.905, and 28.105. Now, with all that said, I rarely? hear any Vara traffic (at least via VarAC) on anything other than the 20m and 40m "channels".? And also, packet and Vara don't really conflict much. I've seen Olivia being used right on top of a Vara QSO and it didn't seem to have any issues at all.? You might try it sometime and see how it goes. You know.. it's easier to say 'oops, sorry' than 'may I?'?EmojiEmoji

?

Wayne Carpenter

73 from KN2Z

?

?

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:28:54 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:

?

?

I suppose.? I spin the HF dial however and find so many quiet places...it's like when I'm in the SSB portion of the band and it's dead quiet except that one frequency where two people are calling CQ on top of each other.?? Naturally I realize that they probably can't even hear each other but I do hear that happen quite often.

Anyway, it's all good.?? I may move off of 20 meters if this is going to be the norm and try 40.??

Thanks for your insight.? I hope you and yours are having a nice Labor Day!

?

73 Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:15, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via wrote:

I understand, but it's a bit like parking on one of the FT8 frequencies.. just too popular for too many operators to use it for anything else.

?

73 and all the best!

?

Wayne Carpenter

73 from KN2Z

?

?

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 10:11:09 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:

?

?

?

Thanks Wayne....

I can QSY but can't help but feel that my connections will be limited if not impossible unless everyone moves....

Too bad that VARA decided to sit right here....

?

Jim W1JT

On 9/4/23 11:04, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via wrote:

Yes, 14.105 is the primary 20m calling frequency for VarAC You'll be fighting a whole lot of Vara users there. If you QSY up or down 250hz to 750hz, you'll have better luck.

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Wayne Carpenter

73 from KN2Z

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On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 09:45:08 AM CDT, Jim <jim@...> wrote:

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Hello all, Happy Labor Day!

I'm sitting on 14.105 and trying to download the bulletins on SOLBBS and there's a "warbling" noise that seems to be right on frequency.
I've got a strong connection between me and N0HI but it's really making throughput tough.?? What is it?
My guess is it's VARA but I've never used that mode so can't tell for sure.
Is anyone else experiencing it?
I've been on the frequency now for about a week really enjoying my HF packet but this is pretty much shutting me down.??
I hope it isn't anything permanent.
Jim W1JT

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