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Hank,
Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one.
Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage?
Let me know.
Thanks.
Tim AE7OG
On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via groups.io <hbjr@...> wrote:
What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim Kaminski via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 8:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [network105] Seeking a Timewave PK232MBX w/ firmware 7.1 or higher ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA.
Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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Talking to Randy the owner of Timewave, there are few if any MBX models badged as Timewave.?The MBX models were a single board TNC last produced by AEA. ?The old battery tray had since been replaced with a coin cell sometime in the early nineties. After AEA closed in 1996, Timewave first sold a DSP labeled 232. It had the same mbx capable motherboard with a new daughter board with the DSP filtering. This required 7.0 EPROMs. ?There was a grey version with XLR connectors used by the military. It is still available via special order. ?The PSK version (no soundcard) was released with a transformer isolated radio path to a pc with 7.1 EPROMs. The soundcard or SC version was released with an actual soundcard installed including all other previous upgrades adding USB connectivity, etc. ?The motherboard was eventually ?redone to include the the + version that is sold now allowing 2 radios to be active simultaneously connected to a single pc for soundcard modes on one port and a traditional TNC for packet, RTTY, pactor etc on the other port. 7.2 was the software.?
Our club maintains a packet network using pk-232’s. Among our group we probably have 25 units from the original all red LED to the Heathkit version, all the way to the PK-232sc+ which is current production.?
They are all upgradeable with kits from Timewave.?
I have several PK-232MBX’s: some with red LEDs, some with daughter boards for the enhanced MBX function, a few with multi color LEDs. None have the old battery trays. They were all made with coin cells. One has a 2400 baud modem board.?
I have never seen a Timewave PK-232MBX. Maybe there are some.?
I have 3 AEA pk-232 MBXs on the desk all with upgraded 7.2 firmware. ?They all have factory installed coin cell batteries. ’m adding the reset switch option to them before they go into winlink gateway operation.?
I should have a Timewave PK-232DSP ready to go soon I could sell you ?as soon as parts arrive from Timewave. It needs the Radio selector switch replaced - it no longer latches. I haven’t specifically checked the firmware but it will be at least 7.1. I’ve got about $60 in it.?
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On Mar 7, 2024, at 9:38?PM, Tim Kaminski via groups.io <kaminsti@...> wrote:
? Hank,
Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one.
Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage?
Let me know.
Thanks.
Tim AE7OG
On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via groups.io <hbjr@...> wrote:
What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ? ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA.
Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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Thanks Hank.
I too am working off of a conversation I had with Randy earlier today. I'll be in contact with him again tomorrow and will ask him if he truly meant the specific branding of "Timewave." That's what I heard multiple times in our conversation and that's what I wrote down. I don't usually get details wrong from conversations. It may simply be I may not have understood the nuances inherent in the product line names during our conversation. We'll see.
It's good to know you have equipment available for sale.
On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 08:27:29 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via groups.io <hbjr@...> wrote:
Talking to Randy the owner of Timewave, there are few if any MBX models badged as Timewave.?The MBX models were a single board TNC last produced by AEA. ?The old battery tray had since been replaced with a coin cell sometime in the early nineties. After AEA closed in 1996, Timewave first sold a DSP labeled 232. It had the same mbx capable motherboard with a new daughter board with the DSP filtering. This required 7.0 EPROMs. ?There was a grey version with XLR connectors used by the military. It is still available via special order. ?The PSK version (no soundcard) was released with a transformer isolated radio path to a pc with 7.1 EPROMs. The soundcard or SC version was released with an actual soundcard installed including all other previous upgrades adding USB connectivity, etc. ?The motherboard was eventually ?redone to include the the + version that is sold now allowing 2 radios to be active simultaneously connected to a single pc for soundcard modes on one port and a traditional TNC for packet, RTTY, pactor etc on the other port. 7.2 was the software.?
Our club maintains a packet network using pk-232’s. Among our group we probably have 25 units from the original all red LED to the Heathkit version, all the way to the PK-232sc+ which is current production.?
They are all upgradeable with kits from Timewave.?
I have several PK-232MBX’s: some with red LEDs, some with daughter boards for the enhanced MBX function, a few with multi color LEDs. None have the old battery trays. They were all made with coin cells. One has a 2400 baud modem board.?
I have never seen a Timewave PK-232MBX. Maybe there are some.?
I have 3 AEA pk-232 MBXs on the desk all with upgraded 7.2 firmware. ?They all have factory installed coin cell batteries. ’m adding the reset switch option to them before they go into winlink gateway operation.?
I should have a Timewave PK-232DSP ready to go soon I could sell you ?as soon as parts arrive from Timewave. It needs the Radio selector switch replaced - it no longer latches. I haven’t specifically checked the firmware but it will be at least 7.1. I’ve got about $60 in it.?
On Mar 7, 2024, at 9:38?PM, Tim Kaminski via groups.io <kaminsti@...> wrote:
? Hank,
Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one.
Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage?
Let me know.
Thanks.
Tim AE7OG
On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via groups.io <hbjr@...> wrote:
What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ? ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA.
Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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I hate to say buying used PKs is truly a buyer beware kind of market.? There are so many variations on the road and so many people have “modified” them in one way or another, it’s good to open it up and peak inside before you buy. ? Hank K4HYJ ?
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Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 12:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [network105] Seeking a Timewave PK232MBX w/ firmware 7.1 or higher? I too am working off of a conversation I had with Randy earlier today. I'll be in contact with him again tomorrow and will ask him if he truly meant the specific branding of "Timewave." That's what I heard multiple times in our conversation and that's what I wrote down. I don't usually get details wrong from conversations. It may simply be I may not have understood the nuances inherent in the product line names during our conversation. We'll see. It's good to know you have equipment available for sale. On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 08:27:29 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via groups.io <hbjr@...> wrote: Talking to Randy the owner of Timewave, there are few if any MBX models badged as Timewave.?The MBX models were a single board TNC last produced by AEA. ?The old battery tray had since been replaced with a coin cell sometime in the early nineties. After AEA closed in 1996, Timewave first sold a DSP labeled 232. It had the same mbx capable motherboard with a new daughter board with the DSP filtering. This required 7.0 EPROMs. ?There was a grey version with XLR connectors used by the military. It is still available via special order. ?The PSK version (no soundcard) was released with a transformer isolated radio path to a pc with 7.1 EPROMs. The soundcard or SC version was released with an actual soundcard installed including all other previous upgrades adding USB connectivity, etc. ?The motherboard was eventually ?redone to include the the + version that is sold now allowing 2 radios to be active simultaneously connected to a single pc for soundcard modes on one port and a traditional TNC for packet, RTTY, pactor etc on the other port. 7.2 was the software.? Our club maintains a packet network using pk-232’s. Among our group we probably have 25 units from the original all red LED to the Heathkit version, all the way to the PK-232sc+ which is current production.? They are all upgradeable with kits from Timewave.? I have several PK-232MBX’s: some with red LEDs, some with daughter boards for the enhanced MBX function, a few with multi color LEDs. None have the old battery trays. They were all made with coin cells. One has a 2400 baud modem board.? I have never seen a Timewave PK-232MBX. Maybe there are some.? I have 3 AEA pk-232 MBXs on the desk all with upgraded 7.2 firmware. ?They all have factory installed coin cell batteries. ’m adding the reset switch option to them before they go into winlink gateway operation.? I should have a Timewave PK-232DSP ready to go soon I could sell you ?as soon as parts arrive from Timewave. It needs the Radio selector switch replaced - it no longer latches. I haven’t specifically checked the firmware but it will be at least 7.1. I’ve got about $60 in it.?
On Mar 7, 2024, at 9:38?PM, Tim Kaminski via groups.io <kaminsti@...> wrote:
? Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one. Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage? On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via groups.io <hbjr@...> wrote: What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ? ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA. Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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Thanks Hank. I'd prefer a new one, but the HRO website has it on back order for an unknown period of time. Will they even be made anymore? Randy gave me a few tips on what to look for. I've had a few discussions with folks selling on Ebay and it is always buyer beware. When you ask questions and ask them to take off the cover and check something they run away. :>) I think they figure we know more than they do and won't pay the (usually) ridiculous price they are asking. You and folks in this Group are probably a safer venue to make a purchase from because you have skin in the game and have reputations to uphold.
Tim AE7OG
On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 08:57:47 AM PST, HB K4HYJ via groups.io <hbjr@...> wrote:
I hate to say buying used PKs is truly a buyer beware kind of market.? There are so many variations on the road and so many people have “modified” them in one way or another, it’s good to open it up and peak inside before you buy. ? Hank K4HYJ ?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tim Kaminski via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 12:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [network105] Seeking a Timewave PK232MBX w/ firmware 7.1 or higher ? I too am working off of a conversation I had with Randy earlier today. I'll be in contact with him again tomorrow and will ask him if he truly meant the specific branding of "Timewave." That's what I heard multiple times in our conversation and that's what I wrote down. I don't usually get details wrong from conversations. It may simply be I may not have understood the nuances inherent in the product line names during our conversation. We'll see. It's good to know you have equipment available for sale. On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 08:27:29 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via groups.io <hbjr@...> wrote: Talking to Randy the owner of Timewave, there are few if any MBX models badged as Timewave.?The MBX models were a single board TNC last produced by AEA. ?The old battery tray had since been replaced with a coin cell sometime in the early nineties. After AEA closed in 1996, Timewave first sold a DSP labeled 232. It had the same mbx capable motherboard with a new daughter board with the DSP filtering. This required 7.0 EPROMs. ?There was a grey version with XLR connectors used by the military. It is still available via special order. ?The PSK version (no soundcard) was released with a transformer isolated radio path to a pc with 7.1 EPROMs. The soundcard or SC version was released with an actual soundcard installed including all other previous upgrades adding USB connectivity, etc. ?The motherboard was eventually ?redone to include the the + version that is sold now allowing 2 radios to be active simultaneously connected to a single pc for soundcard modes on one port and a traditional TNC for packet, RTTY, pactor etc on the other port. 7.2 was the software.? Our club maintains a packet network using pk-232’s. Among our group we probably have 25 units from the original all red LED to the Heathkit version, all the way to the PK-232sc+ which is current production.? They are all upgradeable with kits from Timewave.? I have several PK-232MBX’s: some with red LEDs, some with daughter boards for the enhanced MBX function, a few with multi color LEDs. None have the old battery trays. They were all made with coin cells. One has a 2400 baud modem board.? I have never seen a Timewave PK-232MBX. Maybe there are some.? I have 3 AEA pk-232 MBXs on the desk all with upgraded 7.2 firmware. ?They all have factory installed coin cell batteries. ’m adding the reset switch option to them before they go into winlink gateway operation.? I should have a Timewave PK-232DSP ready to go soon I could sell you ?as soon as parts arrive from Timewave. It needs the Radio selector switch replaced - it no longer latches. I haven’t specifically checked the firmware but it will be at least 7.1. I’ve got about $60 in it.?
On Mar 7, 2024, at 9:38?PM, Tim Kaminski via groups.io <kaminsti@...> wrote:
? Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one. Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage? On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via groups.io <hbjr@...> wrote: What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ? ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA. Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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I have 3 SCS modems and they are small but multi-model giant killers. ? Joseph D. Yuna
Joseph D. Yuna (LCDR USN/ret.) 1006 River Hills Rd. Beavercreek, OH 45430-1124 United States of America Primary:? +617.943.2635 W4JDY1953@... ?
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Subject: Re: [network105] Seeking a Timewave PK232MBX w/ firmware 7.1 or higher? Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one. Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage? On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via groups.io <hbjr@...> wrote: What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ? ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA. Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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Not trying to hijack your thread Tim, but since you and Hank have had recent discussions with Timewave, would yall mind telling me the price of a new unit (assuming there was one available)? And Hank, do you have an idea of what the special order military model runs? Just curious. I started my packet journey about a year and a half ago with a single board AEA in immaculate shape and totally unmolested / unmodified. I have since bought numerous TNCs (mostly Paccom). And I am finally able to make two of them converse with one another clear across the bench! Anyways, my AEA is a versatile unit, but is plagued with the well known lockup issue when left unattended too long. I appreciate the info already provided in this thread gentlemen. Mike K5MZM
I have 3 SCS modems and they are small but multi-model giant killers. ? Joseph D. Yuna
Joseph D. Yuna (LCDR USN/ret.) 1006 River Hills Rd. Beavercreek, OH 45430-1124 United States of America Primary:? +617.943.2635 W4JDY1953@... ? ? Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one. Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage? On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via <hbjr@...> wrote: What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ? ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA. Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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Hi Michael,
I didn't think they make "new" AEA/Timewaves anymore, but I did see a listing on Ham Radio Outlet for one that was "out of stock." What is truth these days?
From my two discussions with Randy at Timewave he said folks shouldn't pay too much. (What does that mean?) In reality that's tough to do because there really aren't many out there to begin with. I figured if someone on this forum is willing to sell one that has been substantially upgraded its probably a safer bet than ebay, or QRZ, EHam classifieds, etc. where you have to do dental surgery asking questions and ask them to send more pictures of the guts of the machine to determine condition, age and upgrades.?
I just bought one from KY4JW that he substantially upgraded. It was more than what Randy at Timewave said I should pay, but I figure with everything being upside down these days that I wasn't going to do much better anytime soon and I really cannot afford to delay my project any longer looking for a "perfect" solution. Jim (KY4JW) did a lot of upgrades so its probably a very good deal all things considered. Plan B for me is Kantronics if the AEA turns into a nosebleed.
I think Hank (can't recall call sign) is your best source of supply. He said in a previous Group thread he has several he is willing to sell that have been upgraded. I think he should be your point of focus in order to get a machine that has been upgraded substantially or fully if you want an upgraded AEA.
Not sure I can be much more help to you, but I'll be happy to try.
Tim AE7OG
On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 05:35:14 PM PDT, Michael DeNicola <michael.denicola@...> wrote:
Not trying to hijack your thread Tim, but since you and Hank have had recent discussions with Timewave, would yall mind telling me the price of a new unit (assuming there was one available)? And Hank, do you have an idea of what the special order military model runs? Just curious. I started my packet journey about a year and a half ago with a single board AEA in immaculate shape and totally unmolested / unmodified. I have since bought numerous TNCs (mostly Paccom). And I am finally able to make two of them converse with one another clear across the bench! Anyways, my AEA is a versatile unit, but is plagued with the well known lockup issue when left unattended too long. I appreciate the info already provided in this thread gentlemen. Mike K5MZM
I have 3 SCS modems and they are small but multi-model giant killers. ? Joseph D. Yuna
Joseph D. Yuna (LCDR USN/ret.) 1006 River Hills Rd. Beavercreek, OH 45430-1124 United States of America Primary:? +617.943.2635 W4JDY1953@... ? ? Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one. Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage? On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via <hbjr@...> wrote: What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ? ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA. Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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You are correct Tim... I gave $150 for the AEA and then sent it to Timewave and gave them $270 for the upgrades. That is over $400 in the TNC. That is two much mony.? ?BUT I am a HAM and sometimes we do irrational things when it comes to our hoby.? ?jw
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Date 3/21/2024 9:36:36 PM
Subject Re: [network105] Seeking a Timewave PK232MBX w/ firmware 7.1 or higher
Hi Michael,
I didn't think they make "new" AEA/Timewaves anymore, but I did see a listing on Ham Radio Outlet for one that was "out of stock." What is truth these days?
From my two discussions with Randy at Timewave he said folks shouldn't pay too much. (What does that mean?) In reality that's tough to do because there really aren't many out there to begin with. I figured if someone on this forum is willing to sell one that has been substantially upgraded its probably a safer bet than ebay, or QRZ, EHam classifieds, etc. where you have to do dental surgery asking questions and ask them to send more pictures of the guts of the machine to determine condition, age and upgrades.?
I just bought one from KY4JW that he substantially upgraded. It was more than what Randy at Timewave said I should pay, but I figure with everything being upside down these days that I wasn't going to do much better anytime soon and I really cannot afford to delay my project any longer looking for a "perfect" solution. Jim (KY4JW) did a lot of upgrades so its probably a very good deal all things considered. Plan B for me is Kantronics if the AEA turns into a nosebleed.
I think Hank (can't recall call sign) is your best source of supply. He said in a previous Group thread he has several he is willing to sell that have been upgraded. I think he should be your point of focus in order to get a machine that has been upgraded substantially or fully if you want an upgraded AEA.
Not sure I can be much more help to you, but I'll be happy to try.
Tim AE7OG
Not trying to hijack your thread Tim, but since you and Hank have had recent discussions with Timewave, would yall mind telling me the price of a new unit (assuming there was one available)? And Hank, do you have an idea of what the special order military model runs? Just curious. I started my packet journey about a year and a half ago with a single board AEA in immaculate shape and totally unmolested / unmodified. I have since bought numerous TNCs (mostly Paccom). And I am finally able to make two of them converse with one another clear across the bench! Anyways, my AEA is a versatile unit, but is plagued with the well known lockup issue when left unattended too long. I appreciate the info already provided in this thread gentlemen. Mike K5MZM
I have 3 SCS modems and they are small but multi-model giant killers. ? Joseph D. Yuna
Joseph D. Yuna (LCDR USN/ret.) 1006 River Hills Rd. Beavercreek, OH 45430-1124 United States of America Primary:? +617.943.2635 W4JDY1953@... ? ? Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one. Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage? On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via <hbjr@...> wrote: What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ? ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA. Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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I just bought a new PK-232sc+ from a mom and pop ham shop in Ohio. It was $569 plus shipping. ? Maybe it was NOS.?
I have a couple PK’s on the bench that I’m waiting on repair parts. ?They will be at least those specs. One has the DSP option which is nice. One has the soundcard which is really nice.?
I’ll have pricing once they are repaired.?
Hank K4HYJ?
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On Mar 22, 2024, at 10:42?AM, KY4JW <ky4jwextra@...> wrote:
? You are correct Tim... I gave $150 for the AEA and then sent it to Timewave and gave them $270 for the upgrades. That is over $400 in the TNC. That is two much mony.? ?BUT I am a HAM and sometimes we do irrational things when it comes to our hoby.? ?jw
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Date 3/21/2024 9:36:36 PM
Subject Re: [network105] Seeking a Timewave PK232MBX w/ firmware 7.1 or higher
Hi Michael,
I didn't think they make "new" AEA/Timewaves anymore, but I did see a listing on Ham Radio Outlet for one that was "out of stock." What is truth these days?
From my two discussions with Randy at Timewave he said folks shouldn't pay too much. (What does that mean?) In reality that's tough to do because there really aren't many out there to begin with. I figured if someone on this forum is willing to sell one that has been substantially upgraded its probably a safer bet than ebay, or QRZ, EHam classifieds, etc. where you have to do dental surgery asking questions and ask them to send more pictures of the guts of the machine to determine condition, age and upgrades.?
I just bought one from KY4JW that he substantially upgraded. It was more than what Randy at Timewave said I should pay, but I figure with everything being upside down these days that I wasn't going to do much better anytime soon and I really cannot afford to delay my project any longer looking for a "perfect" solution. Jim (KY4JW) did a lot of upgrades so its probably a very good deal all things considered. Plan B for me is Kantronics if the AEA turns into a nosebleed.
I think Hank (can't recall call sign) is your best source of supply. He said in a previous Group thread he has several he is willing to sell that have been upgraded. I think he should be your point of focus in order to get a machine that has been upgraded substantially or fully if you want an upgraded AEA.
Not sure I can be much more help to you, but I'll be happy to try.
Tim AE7OG
Not trying to hijack your thread Tim, but since you and Hank have had recent discussions with Timewave, would yall mind telling me the price of a new unit (assuming there was one available)? And Hank, do you have an idea of what the special order military model runs? Just curious. I started my packet journey about a year and a half ago with a single board AEA in immaculate shape and totally unmolested / unmodified. I have since bought numerous TNCs (mostly Paccom). And I am finally able to make two of them converse with one another clear across the bench! Anyways, my AEA is a versatile unit, but is plagued with the well known lockup issue when left unattended too long. I appreciate the info already provided in this thread gentlemen. Mike K5MZM
I have 3 SCS modems and they are small but multi-model giant killers. ? Joseph D. Yuna
Joseph D. Yuna (LCDR USN/ret.) 1006 River Hills Rd. Beavercreek, OH 45430-1124 United States of America Primary:? +617.943.2635 W4JDY1953@... ? ? Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one. Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage? On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via <hbjr@...> wrote: What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ? ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA. Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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I just finished talking to Randy at Timewave about the availability of new machines. It appears Hank got lucky finding one in stock. Randy projects it will be several months before the parts shortage will be solved so it probably won't be uncommon to see more of these on back order. Until then upgraded older units are probably the best and only option if folks want to stick with the Timewave/AEA PK-232 products for their implementation.
On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:51:12 AM PDT, HB K4HYJ via groups.io <hbjr@...> wrote:
I just bought a new PK-232sc+ from a mom and pop ham shop in Ohio. It was $569 plus shipping. ? Maybe it was NOS.?
I have a couple PK’s on the bench that I’m waiting on repair parts. ?They will be at least those specs. One has the DSP option which is nice. One has the soundcard which is really nice.?
I’ll have pricing once they are repaired.?
Hank K4HYJ?
On Mar 22, 2024, at 10:42?AM, KY4JW <ky4jwextra@...> wrote:
? You are correct Tim... I gave $150 for the AEA and then sent it to Timewave and gave them $270 for the upgrades. That is over $400 in the TNC. That is two much mony.? ?BUT I am a HAM and sometimes we do irrational things when it comes to our hoby.? ?jw
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Date 3/21/2024 9:36:36 PM
Subject Re: [network105] Seeking a Timewave PK232MBX w/ firmware 7.1 or higher
Hi Michael,
I didn't think they make "new" AEA/Timewaves anymore, but I did see a listing on Ham Radio Outlet for one that was "out of stock." What is truth these days?
From my two discussions with Randy at Timewave he said folks shouldn't pay too much. (What does that mean?) In reality that's tough to do because there really aren't many out there to begin with. I figured if someone on this forum is willing to sell one that has been substantially upgraded its probably a safer bet than ebay, or QRZ, EHam classifieds, etc. where you have to do dental surgery asking questions and ask them to send more pictures of the guts of the machine to determine condition, age and upgrades.?
I just bought one from KY4JW that he substantially upgraded. It was more than what Randy at Timewave said I should pay, but I figure with everything being upside down these days that I wasn't going to do much better anytime soon and I really cannot afford to delay my project any longer looking for a "perfect" solution. Jim (KY4JW) did a lot of upgrades so its probably a very good deal all things considered. Plan B for me is Kantronics if the AEA turns into a nosebleed.
I think Hank (can't recall call sign) is your best source of supply. He said in a previous Group thread he has several he is willing to sell that have been upgraded. I think he should be your point of focus in order to get a machine that has been upgraded substantially or fully if you want an upgraded AEA.
Not sure I can be much more help to you, but I'll be happy to try.
Tim AE7OG
Not trying to hijack your thread Tim, but since you and Hank have had recent discussions with Timewave, would yall mind telling me the price of a new unit (assuming there was one available)? And Hank, do you have an idea of what the special order military model runs? Just curious. I started my packet journey about a year and a half ago with a single board AEA in immaculate shape and totally unmolested / unmodified. I have since bought numerous TNCs (mostly Paccom). And I am finally able to make two of them converse with one another clear across the bench! Anyways, my AEA is a versatile unit, but is plagued with the well known lockup issue when left unattended too long. I appreciate the info already provided in this thread gentlemen. Mike K5MZM
I have 3 SCS modems and they are small but multi-model giant killers. ? Joseph D. Yuna
Joseph D. Yuna (LCDR USN/ret.) 1006 River Hills Rd. Beavercreek, OH 45430-1124 United States of America Primary:? +617.943.2635 W4JDY1953@... ? ? Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one. Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage? On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via <hbjr@...> wrote: What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ? ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA. Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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I've been following the thread. I have about 7 Aea pk-232s sitting on the shelf. Do you want me to fire them up and see what version they are if you're still looking?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Tim Kaminski via groups.io" <kaminsti@...> Date: 3/22/24 2:26 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [network105] Seeking a Timewave PK232MBX w/ firmware 7.1 or higher
I just finished talking to Randy at Timewave about the availability of new machines. It appears Hank got lucky finding one in stock. Randy projects it will be several months before the parts shortage will be solved so it probably won't be uncommon to see more of these on back order. Until then upgraded older units are probably the best and only option if folks want to stick with the Timewave/AEA PK-232 products for their implementation.
On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 08:51:12 AM PDT, HB K4HYJ via groups.io <hbjr@...> wrote:
I just bought a new PK-232sc+ from a mom and pop ham shop in Ohio. It was $569 plus shipping. ? Maybe it was NOS.?
I have a couple PK’s on the bench that I’m waiting on repair parts. ?They will be at least those specs. One has the DSP option which is nice. One has the soundcard which is really nice.?
I’ll have pricing once they are repaired.?
Hank K4HYJ? On Mar 22, 2024, at 10:42?AM, KY4JW <ky4jwextra@...> wrote:
? You are correct Tim... I gave $150 for the AEA and then sent it to Timewave and gave them $270 for the upgrades. That is over $400 in the TNC. That is two much mony.? ?BUT I am a HAM and sometimes we do irrational things when it comes to our hoby.? ?jw
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Date 3/21/2024 9:36:36 PM
Subject Re: [network105] Seeking a Timewave PK232MBX w/ firmware 7.1 or higher
Hi Michael,
I didn't think they make "new" AEA/Timewaves anymore, but I did see a listing on Ham Radio Outlet for one that was "out of stock." What is truth these days?
From my two discussions with Randy at Timewave he said folks shouldn't pay too much. (What does that mean?) In reality that's tough to do because there really aren't many out there to begin with. I figured if someone on this forum is willing to sell one that has been substantially upgraded its probably a safer bet than ebay, or QRZ, EHam classifieds, etc. where you have to do dental surgery asking questions and ask them to send more pictures of the guts of the machine to determine condition, age and upgrades.?
I just bought one from KY4JW that he substantially upgraded. It was more than what Randy at Timewave said I should pay, but I figure with everything being upside down these days that I wasn't going to do much better anytime soon and I really cannot afford to delay my project any longer looking for a "perfect" solution. Jim (KY4JW) did a lot of upgrades so its probably a very good deal all things considered. Plan B for me is Kantronics if the AEA turns into a nosebleed.
I think Hank (can't recall call sign) is your best source of supply. He said in a previous Group thread he has several he is willing to sell that have been upgraded. I think he should be your point of focus in order to get a machine that has been upgraded substantially or fully if you want an upgraded AEA.
Not sure I can be much more help to you, but I'll be happy to try.
Tim AE7OG
Not trying to hijack your thread Tim, but since you and Hank have had recent discussions with Timewave, would yall mind telling me the price of a new unit (assuming there was one available)? And Hank, do you have an idea of what the special order military model runs? Just curious. I started my packet journey about a year and a half ago with a single board AEA in immaculate shape and totally unmolested / unmodified. I have since bought numerous TNCs (mostly Paccom). And I am finally able to make two of them converse with one another clear across the bench! Anyways, my AEA is a versatile unit, but is plagued with the well known lockup issue when left unattended too long. I appreciate the info already provided in this thread gentlemen. Mike K5MZM
I have 3 SCS modems and they are small but multi-model giant killers. ? Joseph D. Yuna
Joseph D. Yuna (LCDR USN/ret.) 1006 River Hills Rd. Beavercreek, OH 45430-1124 United States of America Primary:? +617.943.2635 W4JDY1953@... ? ? Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one. Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage? On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via <hbjr@...> wrote: What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ? ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA. Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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For that price, one could have bought a SCS modem. ? Joseph D. Yuna
Joseph D. Yuna (LCDR USN/ret.) 1006 River Hills Rd. Beavercreek, OH 45430-1124 United States of America Primary:? +617.943.2635 W4JDY1953@... ?
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Subject: Re: [network105] Seeking a Timewave PK232MBX w/ firmware 7.1 or higher? I just bought a new PK-232sc+ from a mom and pop ham shop in Ohio. It was $569 plus shipping. ? Maybe it was NOS.? I have a couple PK’s on the bench that I’m waiting on repair parts. ?They will be at least those specs. One has the DSP option which is nice. One has the soundcard which is really nice.? I’ll have pricing once they are repaired.? ? You are correct Tim... I gave $150 for the AEA and then sent it to Timewave and gave them $270 for the upgrades. That is over $400 in the TNC. That is two much mony.? ?BUT I am a HAM and sometimes we do irrational things when it comes to our hoby.? ?jw ------ Original Message ------ Date 3/21/2024 9:36:36 PM Subject Re: [network105] Seeking a Timewave PK232MBX w/ firmware 7.1 or higher I didn't think they make "new" AEA/Timewaves anymore, but I did see a listing on Ham Radio Outlet for one that was "out of stock." What is truth these days? From my two discussions with Randy at Timewave he said folks shouldn't pay too much. (What does that mean?) In reality that's tough to do because there really aren't many out there to begin with. I figured if someone on this forum is willing to sell one that has been substantially upgraded its probably a safer bet than ebay, or QRZ, EHam classifieds, etc. where you have to do dental surgery asking questions and ask them to send more pictures of the guts of the machine to determine condition, age and upgrades.? I just bought one from KY4JW that he substantially upgraded. It was more than what Randy at Timewave said I should pay, but I figure with everything being upside down these days that I wasn't going to do much better anytime soon and I really cannot afford to delay my project any longer looking for a "perfect" solution. Jim (KY4JW) did a lot of upgrades so its probably a very good deal all things considered. Plan B for me is Kantronics if the AEA turns into a nosebleed. I think Hank (can't recall call sign) is your best source of supply. He said in a previous Group thread he has several he is willing to sell that have been upgraded. I think he should be your point of focus in order to get a machine that has been upgraded substantially or fully if you want an upgraded AEA. Not sure I can be much more help to you, but I'll be happy to try. ? Not trying to hijack your thread Tim, but since you and Hank have had recent discussions with Timewave, would yall mind telling me the price of a new unit (assuming there was one available)? And Hank, do you have an idea of what the special order military model runs? Just curious. I started my packet journey about a year and a half ago with a single board AEA in immaculate shape and totally unmolested / unmodified. I have since bought numerous TNCs (mostly Paccom). And I am finally able to make two of them converse with one another clear across the bench! Anyways, my AEA is a versatile unit, but is plagued with the well known lockup issue when left unattended too long. I appreciate the info already provided in this thread gentlemen. ? I have 3 SCS modems and they are small but multi-model giant killers. ? Joseph D. Yuna
Joseph D. Yuna (LCDR USN/ret.) 1006 River Hills Rd. Beavercreek, OH 45430-1124 United States of America Primary:? +617.943.2635 W4JDY1953@... ? ? Thank you for your questions, but a Timewave is my requirement. I may change my requirement at some later point in time, but at this point in time my requirement is non negotiable for my specific use case. I may actually need a second in the future, but I can start my project with one. Do you have a fully functional Timewave PK232MBX you want to sell with firmware 7.1 or higher installed and no battery leakage? On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 06:00:27 PM PST, HB K4HYJ via <hbjr@...> wrote: What is making you say there is a difference?? No MBX daughterboard? Or DSP added? ? Hank K4HYJ ? ? Must be a Timewave and not an AEA. Timewave is my requirement. You either have a Timewave to sell or not. I don't appreciate anyone second guessing my requirement.
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