fldigi 4.2.06.19 posted for testing
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Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Wed Jan 1 20:39:59 2025 -0600
??? THOR-25
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????? * add new THOR modem with following characteristics
??????? . symlen = 320
??????? . samplerate = 8000
??????? . flushlength = 40
??????? . bandwidth = 460
??????? . interleave depth = 50, 2 second
??????? . IEEE coefficients for viterbi encode/decode algorithms
????????? THOR_K15? 15
????????? K15_POLY1 044735
????????? K15_POLY2 063057
??????? . objective to provide highest baud within 500 Hertz
bandwidth for
????????? European amateurs
??????? . CPS test for THOR-25
????????? - text:
??????????? 0123456789
??????????? abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
??????????? ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
????????? - # chars:????? 65
????????? - overhead:???? 10.720000 sec
????????? - xmt time:???? 10.080000 sec
????????? - xmt samples:? 166400
????????? - sample rate:? 8000
????????? - chars/sec:??? 6.45
????? * assigned secondary RsID code 691 to THOR-25
????? * increased flush length for all THOR baud rates
????? * added configurable start and end of signal shaping to
these modem types:
??????? . dominoEX
??????? . psk
??????? . mfsk
??????? . rtty
??????? . thor
??????? . selectable on configuration tab Modem/General
????? * restored selectable paths to all THOR modem types
????? * added individual tone shaping for all THOR modem types
Increased the interleave duration to 2
seconds.? Not compatible with earlier test versions.
73, David, W1HKJ
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Thank You? for all the effort. Happy New Year.
On 1/1/25 09:04, Dave wrote:
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HNY to all.? Hope that 2025
brings good health and happy digital QSOs to all.? Lord
willing and the creek don't rise, I plan on continuing support
of all of the fl applications during this year.
73, David
W1HKJ
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Happy New Year to you Dave and the very best health. Thanks for your ( and others) work on fldigi. It is a mainstay for my ham radio operations.
73, tom w7sua Arizona
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On 1/1/2025 7:04 AM, Dave via groups.io wrote: HNY to all.? Hope that 2025 brings good health and happy digital QSOs to all.? Lord willing and the creek don't rise, I plan on continuing support of all of the fl applications during this year.
73, David
W1HKJ
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Happy New Year to you, Dave! Have I told you lately how much I appreciate your genius creation? Well, it is the very best in my opinion! Thank you and for your continuing effort, a Big Thank YOU!
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73
Karl
KI4ZUQ
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Same back at you Dave! Looking forward to
helping with testing as I can.
Jack Spitznagel
KD4IZ FM19oo
Parkton, MD
On 1/1/2025 9:04 AM, Dave wrote:
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HNY to all.? Hope that 2025
brings good health and happy digital QSOs to all.? Lord
willing and the creek don't rise, I plan on continuing support
of all of the fl applications during this year.
73, David
W1HKJ
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Thank you David and Happy New Year to you and continued work on
the FLdigi suite of tools. It is a wonderful program. I'm learning
something new all the time about the program's and how they work.
Many Thanks
73
Bruce WA1YZN
On 1/1/2025 09:04, Dave wrote:
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HNY to all.? Hope that 2025
brings good health and happy digital QSOs to all.? Lord
willing and the creek don't rise, I plan on continuing support
of all of the fl applications during this year.
73, David
W1HKJ
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HNY to all.? Hope that 2025
brings good health and happy digital QSOs to all.? Lord willing
and the creek don't rise, I plan on continuing support of all of
the fl applications during this year.
73, David
W1HKJ
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Re: [winfldigi] fldigi 4.2.06.18 test version available at
Thanks Dave,
I thought it was an update for all of the Thor modes when I saw the
General tab.
Ron NY3J
On 12/31/24 10:59, Dave wrote:
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Only Thor-25.? Not available
in earlier versions.
David
On 12/31/24 04:30, Ron NY3J via
groups.io wrote:
Dave,
With the new shaping of the Thor modes is there a problem during
a net of older versions of Fldigi receiving the alpha versions?
73, Ron NY3J
On 12/30/24 19:13, Dave wrote:
Hi Tobias,
I'll fix the tooltip.? I tested for Mid-Latitude-Disturbed
NVIS 0 dB s/n; with 0, 1, 2 msec shaping.? Did not see any
decrease in decode performance.? 4 or more msec will
effect decode under stressful HF conditions.? The shaping
does reduce the bandwidth for those situations where that
is critical and signal is expected to be strong.
David
On 12/30/24 16:20, T? via
groups.io wrote:
Hello David,
Thanks, interesting option.
Is there an expected effect on robustness worth testing or
'just' the bandwidth influence?
Note: The Tooltip in Config still shows the text of the
selection above it.
73s Tobias
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Re: [winfldigi] fldigi 4.2.06.18 test version available at
Only Thor-25.? Not available
in earlier versions.
David
On 12/31/24 04:30, Ron NY3J via
groups.io wrote:
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Dave,
With the new shaping of the Thor modes is there a problem during a
net of older versions of Fldigi receiving the alpha versions?
73, Ron NY3J
On 12/30/24 19:13, Dave wrote:
Hi Tobias,
I'll fix the tooltip.? I tested for Mid-Latitude-Disturbed
NVIS 0 dB s/n; with 0, 1, 2 msec shaping.? Did not see any
decrease in decode performance.? 4 or more msec will effect
decode under stressful HF conditions.? The shaping does
reduce the bandwidth for those situations where that is
critical and signal is expected to be strong.
David
On 12/30/24 16:20, T? via groups.io
wrote:
Hello David,
Thanks, interesting option.
Is there an expected effect on robustness worth testing or
'just' the bandwidth influence?
Note: The Tooltip in Config still shows the text of the
selection above it.
73s Tobias
.-.-.
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Re: [winfldigi] fldigi 4.2.06.18 test version available at
DE K3EUI
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Added configurable tone shaping.? This is specifc to THOR.
???????????????????????????? 0 msec risetime???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 4 msec risetime
4 msec leading/trailing edge is similar to a CW signal.
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Re: [winfldigi] fldigi 4.2.06.18 test version available at
Dave,
With the new shaping of the Thor modes is there a problem during a
net of older versions of Fldigi receiving the alpha versions?
73, Ron NY3J
On 12/30/24 19:13, Dave wrote:
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Hi Tobias,
I'll fix the tooltip.? I tested for Mid-Latitude-Disturbed
NVIS 0 dB s/n; with 0, 1, 2 msec shaping.? Did not see any
decrease in decode performance.? 4 or more msec will effect
decode under stressful HF conditions.? The shaping does reduce
the bandwidth for those situations where that is critical and
signal is expected to be strong.
David
On 12/30/24 16:20, T? via groups.io
wrote:
Hello David,
Thanks, interesting option.
Is there an expected effect on robustness worth testing or
'just' the bandwidth influence?
Note: The Tooltip in Config still shows the text of the
selection above it.
73s Tobias
.-.-.
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Re: [winfldigi] fldigi 4.2.06.18 test version available at
Hi Tobias,
I'll fix the tooltip.? I tested for Mid-Latitude-Disturbed NVIS
0 dB s/n; with 0, 1, 2 msec shaping.? Did not see any decrease
in decode performance.? 4 or more msec will effect decode under
stressful HF conditions.? The shaping does reduce the bandwidth
for those situations where that is critical and signal is
expected to be strong.
David
On 12/30/24 16:20, T? via groups.io
wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hello David,
Thanks, interesting option.
Is there an expected effect on robustness worth testing or
'just' the bandwidth influence?
Note: The Tooltip in Config still shows the text of the
selection above it.
73s Tobias
.-.-.
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fldigi 4.2.06.18 test version available at
Added configurable tone shaping.? This is specifc to THOR.
???????????????????????????? 0 msec
risetime????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
4 msec risetime
4 msec leading/trailing edge is similar to a CW signal.
David
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Re: Update FLDIGI, Config settings lost
Also be aware Neil that there are some absolute directory
references in the config files;
In my fldigi_def.xml for example
<THOR_AVATAR_IMAGE_FILE>/home/user/.fldigi/avatars/vk2yqa.png</THOR_AVATAR_IMAGE_FILE>
<CTYDAT_PATHNAME>/home/user/.fldigi/</CTYDAT_PATHNAME>
<XMLRIGFILENAME>/home/user/.fldigi/rigs/IC-9100-D.xml</XMLRIGFILENAME>
<LOGBOOKFILENAME>/home/user/.fldigi/logs/logbook.adif</LOGBOOKFILENAME>
<WEFAXSAVEDIR>/home/user/.fldigi/wefax/</WEFAXSAVEDIR>
<KML_SAVE_DIR>/home/user/.fldigi/kml/</KML_SAVE_DIR>
<AUTO_PROG3_PATHNAME>/home/user/bin/logsn3</AUTO_PROG3_PATHNAME>
and in my fldigi.prefs
last_macro_file:/home/user/.fldigi/macros/macros.mdf
The upshot being that if the referenced directory vanishes then
fldigi will probably revert to the default for that parameter.
I was thinking too about the change in default structure that
occurred some years ago. Initially there was an fldigi and nbems
directory hanging off home. More recently there is an fldigi
folder then two subfolders, fldigi and nbems. A running "old"
structure will work fine, but transferring/copying things may get
into a mess. This maybe what happened with Doug as the macro
location is one of those affected.
Cheers Bob VK2YQA
On 30/12/24 14:26, Neil Preston W0NRP
via groups.io wrote:
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Doug and all...
IIRC, I ran into this early on and saved a backup of my config
files.? However, once I set up a dual configuration of FLDigi,
one for VHF FM and one for HF, the problem goes away.
The process is detailed in message # 1797 dated 12/19/09 by Gary
Wescom and forwarded by w1hkj.? While it is intended for having
multiple configurations of FLDigi, it can work well to preserve
configuration settings for a single configuration.
In simplest form, when you have FLDigi configured properly, COPY
the folder "fldigi.files" to a new folder with a unique name.?
In my case, for a dual configuration, I have a folder called
"fldigi_VHF.files" and one called "fldigi_HF.files".? For a
single configuration, only make one unique folder.
I don't change the original folder, but it will likely get
overwritten in an upgrade.?
Next, modify the properties of your desktop shortcut for fldigi
as follows:
? Right click on your new icon.
? ? Select the properties option. ?There will be line labeled
"Target." ?
It should contain something like this: "C:\Program
Files\Fldigi-3.13BD\fldigi.exe" ?
The actual filename may change as versions change but it should
look similar to this.
? ? Add the following text to the Target line (except use the
name of the directory you created in step 1 above):
(space)--config-dir C:\fldigi_VHF ?(Note that it is dash dash
config dash dir)
? ? Click "Apply" and "OK" to exit the properties box.
? ? Click on the your new icon to start the second copy of
fldigi and configure it as needed.
In my case, my shortcut target reads as follows:
"C:\Program Files\Fldigi-4.2.06\fldigi.exe" --config-dir
C:\Users\<username>\fldigi_VHF.files
Now, when you upgrade to a newer version of FLDigi, copy the
configuration pointer into the new shortcut target.?
All of your configurations will have been retained.
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73,
Neil W?NRP
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Re: Update FLDIGI, Config settings lost
Doug and all...
IIRC, I ran into this early on and saved a backup of my config files.? However, once I set up a dual configuration of FLDigi, one for VHF FM and one for HF, the problem goes away.
The process is detailed in message # 1797 dated 12/19/09 by Gary Wescom and forwarded by w1hkj.? While it is intended for having multiple configurations of FLDigi, it can work well to preserve configuration settings for a single configuration.
In simplest form, when you have FLDigi configured properly, COPY the folder "fldigi.files" to a new folder with a unique name.? In my case, for a dual configuration, I have a folder called "fldigi_VHF.files" and one called "fldigi_HF.files".? For a single configuration, only make one unique folder.
I don't change the original folder, but it will likely get overwritten in an upgrade.?
Next, modify the properties of your desktop shortcut for fldigi as follows:
? Right click on your new icon.
? ? Select the properties option. ?There will be line labeled "Target." ?
It should contain something like this: "C:\Program Files\Fldigi-3.13BD\fldigi.exe" ?
The actual filename may change as versions change but it should look similar to this.
? ? Add the following text to the Target line (except use the name of the directory you created in step 1 above):
(space)--config-dir C:\fldigi_VHF ?(Note that it is dash dash config dash dir)
? ? Click "Apply" and "OK" to exit the properties box.
? ? Click on the your new icon to start the second copy of fldigi and configure it as needed.
In my case, my shortcut target reads as follows:
"C:\Program Files\Fldigi-4.2.06\fldigi.exe" --config-dir C:\Users\<username>\fldigi_VHF.files
Now, when you upgrade to a newer version of FLDigi, copy the configuration pointer into the new shortcut target.?
All of your configurations will have been retained.
--
73,
Neil W?NRP
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Re: Update FLDIGI, Config settings lost
Sri...? Yes, running on thumbdrive in Win11
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Re: Update FLDIGI, Config settings lost
Robert... ?'fldigi_UI_colors.colors' does update @ close, but not every 'Save Config' while running. Today, I changed a few colors. ?Using SAVE in Config window and SAVE CONFIG, 'fldigi_UI_colors.colors' was unchanged. It updates @ Closing. Today, it's working correctly; I can't explain why I lost all color changes previously. It must be Op Error. I don't see another explanation.?
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In 'Configure/Colors-Fonts/Rx-Tx', Text Highlighting, the 'XMT' control isn't working 4 me. All others OK. The color select screen works, but color doesn't change from Red.
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I don't see well; I change nearly everything to make fldigi easier to operate for long periods. ?I really appreciate the NBEMS apps and your work and commitment.? FLDIGI sets the standard in Amateur digital operations.
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Am I correct in thinking that archiving/restoring a copy of 'fldigi_UI_colors.colors' along with the other 2 config files will restore all my config settings?? TU Doug
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fldigi 4.2.06.17 posted for testing
Change to THOR-25 modem, increasing interleave depth to 1
second.? NOT compatible with previous test releases.? This change
should improve the decoder under NVIS conditions, such as
Mid-Latitue disturbed:
??? THOR-25
?? ?
????? * add new THOR modem with following characteristics
??????? . symlen = 320
??????? . samplerate = 8000
??????? . flushlength = 20
??????? . bandwidth = 460
??????? . interleave depth = 25, 1 second
??????? . IEEE coefficients for viterbi encode/decode
algorithms
????????? THOR_K15? 15
????????? K15_POLY1 044735
????????? K15_POLY2 063057
??????? . objective to provide highest baud within 500 Hertz
bandwidth for
????????? European amateurs
????????? .CPS test text:
???????????? "0123456789
????????????? abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
????????????? ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"
???????????? number chars:????? 66
???????????? overhead:???? 6.480000 sec
???????????? xmt time:???? 10.280000 sec
???????????? xmt samples:? 134080
???????????? chars/sec:??? 6.42
????? * assigned secondary RsID code 691 to THOR-25
????? * increased flush length for all THOR baud rates
????? * added configurable start and end of signal shaping to
these modem types:
??????? . dominoEX
??????? . psk
??????? . mfsk
??????? . rtty
??????? . thor
??????? . selectable on configuration tab Modem/General
????? * restored selectable paths to all THOR modem types
Bench tests with the above test parameters
produced 100% decode.
73, David
W1HKJ
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Re: Update FLDIGI, Config settings lost
Doug,
Is the file "fldigi_UI_colors.colors" located on the thumb drive? if so, when saved/updated does the file date update to the save on date?
Robert
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Re: Update FLDIGI, Config settings lost
Doug,
Yes, the script engine was not designed to save the superficial look of FLDIGI, just the internal operations part of it.
Robert
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Dave
Karl
Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ)
Ron NY3J
K3EUI Barry
Doug K7KY