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thor25 is only available as alpha test mode

 

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http://w1hkj.com/alpha/fldigi/readme.txt

suggestion - let’s try thor25 for traffic over next few weeks
on PA NBEMS (3583 kHz at 0730 hr EST) and MidAtlantic nbems net (7068 kHz at 1000 hr est) on Sunday mornings


Barry
k3eui




THOR25

 

I am going to suggest that the PA NBEMS ?(Sunday 0730 hr EST on 3583 kHz) and the Mid-Atlantic NBEMS net (Sunday 1000 hr EST on 7068 kHz) test THOR25 as the traffic mode (we use FLMSG and FLAMP)
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Our experience in early morning hours on 80m and mid-morning hours on 40m is that there are occasional deep fades (1 or 2 S units) which clobbers a second of data, hence the “bad file” designation of FLMSG
?
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We have been using THOR32 and MFSK32 and both work well as long as the S/N is in the positive range.
I seem to get most (but not all) of the file if the S/N drops to -10dB.
?
I encourage folks on this IO group who can copy the PA or Mid-Atlantic NBEMS (we usually get checkins from PA/MD/DE and many from NY/NJ and a few from New England stations, as far south as VA/NC and west to WV and sometimes OH) to try THOR25
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A few of us can remain on the net frequency (3583 kHz or 7068 kHz) after the nets end for further testing.
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de k3eui. barry
(Philadelphia region)


TEST THOR 25 on HF on weekends

 

I am going to suggest that the PA NBEMS ?(Sunday 0730 hr EST on 3583 kHz) and the Mid-Atlantic NBEMS net (Sunday 1000 hr EST on 7068 kHz) test THOR25 as the traffic mode (we use FLMSG and FLAMP)
?
?
Our experience in early morning hours on 80m and mid-morning hours on 40m is that there are occasional deep fades (1 or 2 S units) which clobbers a second of data, hence the “bad file” designation of FLMSG
?
?
We have been using THOR32 and MFSK32 and both work well as long as the S/N is in the positive range.
I seem to get most (but not all) of the file if the S/N drops to -10dB.
?
I encourage folks on this IO group who can copy the PA or Mid-Atlantic NBEMS (we usually get checkins from PA/MD/DE and many from NY/NJ and a few from New England stations, as far south as VA/NC and west to WV and sometimes OH) to try THOR25
?
A few of us can remain on the net frequency (3583 kHz or 7068 kHz) after the nets end for further testing.
?
de k3eui. barry
(Philadelphia region)
?
?


AndFlmsg -- volume setting drops unexpectedly when starting to transmit

 

John VK2ETA,?
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Recently a new situation arose which is troublesome when transmitting from the wonderful AndFlmsg phone app.?
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When I click "TX OVER RADIO," the media volume setting of the Android phone drops from 100% to about 10%. Although I can quickly reset the volume level to 100%, the beginning of the transmission occurs at too low a volume setting. This new situation started a few weeks ago.?
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Perhaps there was a Samsung Android software update which now causes the phone media volume setting to battle the AndFlmsg output? I am looking for suggestions to block the automatic volume drop. Is there an Android setting I should change??
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Thank you for all you do.?
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73 de
. . . Rob
K6RJF?
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fldigi 4.2.06.14 development test version posted at

 

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Most recent change:

commit 0169172527f33938496aa6672adf7b0947922def
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Sun Dec 8 17:20:08 2024 -0600

??? THOR25
?? ?
????? * add new thor modem with following characteristics
??????? . symlen = 320
??????? . samplerate = 8000
??????? . flushlength = 20
??????? . bandwidth = 460
??????? . IEEE coefficients for viterbi encode/decode algorithms
????????? THOR_K15? 15
????????? K15_POLY1 044735
????????? K15_POLY2 063057
????? * increased flush length for all baud rates
????? * added configurable start of signal shaping to these modem types:
??????? . psk
??????? . mfsk
??????? . rtty
??????? . thor
????? * removed end of signal shaping
????? * assigned secondary RsID code 691

Thor-25 signal showing RsID and 200 msec rise time at start of data stream.

73, David
W1HKJ


RF spectra of the THOR modes caught on 80m SSB

 

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?? RF SPECTRA of the THOR speeds on HF SSB


There is a new (alpha) THOR mode with the designation? THOR 25

We tried THOR25 after the PA NBEMS net? (Sunday 0730 hr on 3583.0 kHz) and it worked well as a traffic mode, compared

to THOR32 which we have been using (as well as MFSK32).


I wanted to compare the RF SPECTUM of each of the THOR speeds, so I used a SDR? (RSP play hardware) and RSP Spectrum Analyzer (software)

and set it on 3585.5 kHz center frequency with a very high resolution bandwidth.

Transmitter was an Icom 7610 (built in sound card) with VFO set to 3585.0 kHz


Here are the results, showing the? "peak" bandwidth of the THOR speeds, as well as the BW at ? 30dB below the peak.

I think the present definition of "bandwidth" is? that width at? -26dB below the peak, so? -30dB is close to that standard and easy to see.

I think the other definition of BW is that signal containing 99% (or was it 99.9%) of the energy.



THOR25 is still in testing (alpha) and does not yet have an assigned TXID/RXID? identifier.

But you can manually go to OP MODE on top menu and select? THOR25.


The goal of the 80m and 40m NBEMS nets is to use one mode for taking check-ins (usually THOR22) and to send the call sign twice,

then the name, location (county if in Pa) and traffic/no traffic or? QTC/QRU, and many send a?? S/N? of the net control.


THOR vs. MFSK

THOR modes are far easier to tune in on SSB compared to MFSK modes.

I find if I mistune a MFSK32 signal by about 15 Hz? then I lose all copy.

THOR can be badly mistuned and still get full print.

THOR also uses the "difference in pitch" from one tone to the next tone as the character, not the absolute pitch.

There are other reasons I prefer THOR on HF NBEMS nets.


So take a look at the RF? spectra? (not the audio spectra) and see for yourself the pros/cons of each speed.

As FLDIGI develops the THOR 25 mode, we will have more data to report back to W1HKJ.


de k3eui? Barry

Kennett Square PA? (near Phila)

Dec 08 2024



THOR 11 mode on 3585 kHz.jpg
THOR 22 mode on 3585 kHz.jpg
THOR 25 mode on 3585 kHz.jpg
THOR 32 mode on 3585 kHz.jpg
THOR 56 mode on 3585 kHz.jpg


flrig 2.0.05.85 posted

 

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at

See readme.txt for most recent changes.

73, David
W1HKJ


Re: fldigi 4.2.06.09 posted at

 

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Probably because it is not part of the FLdigi group, I'm guessing?

Bruce WA1YZN
On 11/24/2024 11:50, N2BHD via groups.io wrote:

Hi David,
I'd like to understand SCAMP better.? Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.? I don't see any RsID mode change for SCAMP.? Can you point me to a description of SCAMP?
?
Also, I noticed that the tool tip for Rx/Tx RsID EOT doesn't seem correct (Config->IDs->RsID).
?
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Thanks,
Ed N2BHD


Re: fldigi 4.2.06.09 posted at

 

I found some SCAMP documentation at
73,
Ed N2BHD


Re: fldigi 4.2.06.09 posted at

 

Hi David,
I'd like to understand SCAMP better.? Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.? I don't see any RsID mode change for SCAMP.? Can you point me to a description of SCAMP?
?
Also, I noticed that the tool tip for Rx/Tx RsID EOT doesn't seem correct (Config->IDs->RsID).
?
?
Thanks,
Ed N2BHD


fldigi 4.2.06.09 posted at

 

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Latest changes:

commit 61d36174e96cb6c5c2d118521036b316b05fdbb2
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Thu Nov 21 07:55:00 2024 -0500

??? alpha

commit 5b70d60ea16937ab77ed37c9deed8cbf47d6949f
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Wed Nov 20 11:04:17 2024 -0600

??? band mode
?? ?
????? * fix save/load of tx level

commit 920a1af0c717edce79bbb4a0a3597caaaf11f674
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Wed Nov 20 07:16:15 2024 -0600

??? fmt time scale
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????? * add 4, 8, 16, 24 and 48 hour scales

commit ff91d937903ce30cc825d30b6470cc37c5f6f9e4
Author: Daniel Marks <profdc9@...>
Date:?? Tue Nov 12 08:34:18 2024 -0600

??? scamp
?? ?
????? * port SCAMP from github fldigi/scamp repository

73, David, W1HKJ


fldigi 4.2.06.07 posted at

 

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Note:
? - added SCAMP mode
? - added additional time scales to fmt mode; 4, 8, 16, 24 and 48 hour



? -? MacOS users on MacOS > 13.x.x will have to ignore the "malicious" software warning during first execution.
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Should only require a single response to the "use microphone" dialog.



Re: C-Media PTT

 

NP Ken!? Glad it is working in windows.

On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 5:22?PM Kenneth G. Gordon via <kgordon2006=[email protected]> wrote:

On 29 Oct 2024 at 14:42, Don Rolph wrote:

>
> I sm using?the CM108 PTT in FLDIGI successfully on windows.
>
> What leads you to conclude that it does not work on Windows?

Yes. It works just great in WIndows: doesn't work in FreeBSD...yet!.

Sorry for the confusion.

Ken W7EKB

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Don Rolph


Re: C-Media PTT

 

On 29 Oct 2024 at 14:42, Don Rolph wrote:


I sm using?the CM108 PTT in FLDIGI successfully on windows.

What leads you to conclude that it does not work on Windows?
Yes. It works just great in WIndows: doesn't work in FreeBSD...yet!.

Sorry for the confusion.

Ken W7EKB

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Re: C-Media PTT

 

I sm using?the CM108 PTT in FLDIGI successfully on windows.

What leads you to conclude that it does not work on Windows?

On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 12:29?PM Kenneth G. Gordon via <kgordon2006=[email protected]> wrote:

Hello, All:

I am using one of Kevin's DRA units with Fldigi, VARA-HF and Winlink Express in my daily
traffic handling work. So far, it has proven to be the best digital interface I have ever used.

I prefer to use the C-Media sound-chip's PTT function which is available with any of Kevin's
(Masters Communications) DRA units as it is faster, more reliable, and is easier to contrtol
than using VOX to key the transmitter.

Fldigi has that funtion built into it, but it is apparently, only available to users of Linux.

I have two computers here which can dual-boot either Win10, or FreeBSD ver 14.1. I much
prefer to use FreeBSD over Win10 or any of the many distros of Linux.

However, although I have "translated" the UDEV setup, listed in the PTT setup of Fldigi which
is required for Linux to the correct settings of the UDEV-equivalent in FreeBSD (DEVD), I
cannot get the C-Media PTT to work. My only solution to that issue here is to activate keying
by VOX in the DRA unit when using FreeBSD. Although VOX can be acrivated in the DRA
unit by moving one jumper, I am concerned that doing so will affect the use of PTT keying via
the C-Media chip in Win10.

So, my question to Dave and to anyone else here, what, exactly, are the commands in Fldigi
which activate the C-Media chip's PTT function in Linux? I am hoping that by learning this, I
MAY be able to "translate" those commands to FreeBSD.

vy 73,

Ken W7EKB

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Re: C-Media PTT

 

Ken,

You can also use hamlibs to key your radio and that's with both bsd & w$.

GL & 73
Jaye

On 10/29/24 9:29 AM, Kenneth G. Gordon wrote:
Hello, All:

I am using one of Kevin's DRA units with Fldigi, VARA-HF and Winlink Express in my daily
traffic handling work. So far, it has proven to be the best digital interface I have ever used.

I prefer to use the C-Media sound-chip's PTT function which is available with any of Kevin's
(Masters Communications) DRA units as it is faster, more reliable, and is easier to contrtol
than using VOX to key the transmitter.

Fldigi has that funtion built into it, but it is apparently, only available to users of Linux.

I have two computers here which can dual-boot either Win10, or FreeBSD ver 14.1. I much
prefer to use FreeBSD over Win10 or any of the many distros of Linux.

However, although I have "translated" the UDEV setup, listed in the PTT setup of Fldigi which
is required for Linux to the correct settings of the UDEV-equivalent in FreeBSD (DEVD), I
cannot get the C-Media PTT to work. My only solution to that issue here is to activate keying
by VOX in the DRA unit when using FreeBSD. Although VOX can be acrivated in the DRA
unit by moving one jumper, I am concerned that doing so will affect the use of PTT keying via
the C-Media chip in Win10.

So, my question to Dave and to anyone else here, what, exactly, are the commands in Fldigi
which activate the C-Media chip's PTT function in Linux? I am hoping that by learning this, I
MAY be able to "translate" those commands to FreeBSD.

vy 73,

Ken W7EKB
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C-Media PTT

 

Hello, All:

I am using one of Kevin's DRA units with Fldigi, VARA-HF and Winlink Express in my daily
traffic handling work. So far, it has proven to be the best digital interface I have ever used.

I prefer to use the C-Media sound-chip's PTT function which is available with any of Kevin's
(Masters Communications) DRA units as it is faster, more reliable, and is easier to contrtol
than using VOX to key the transmitter.

Fldigi has that funtion built into it, but it is apparently, only available to users of Linux.

I have two computers here which can dual-boot either Win10, or FreeBSD ver 14.1. I much
prefer to use FreeBSD over Win10 or any of the many distros of Linux.

However, although I have "translated" the UDEV setup, listed in the PTT setup of Fldigi which
is required for Linux to the correct settings of the UDEV-equivalent in FreeBSD (DEVD), I
cannot get the C-Media PTT to work. My only solution to that issue here is to activate keying
by VOX in the DRA unit when using FreeBSD. Although VOX can be acrivated in the DRA
unit by moving one jumper, I am concerned that doing so will affect the use of PTT keying via
the C-Media chip in Win10.

So, my question to Dave and to anyone else here, what, exactly, are the commands in Fldigi
which activate the C-Media chip's PTT function in Linux? I am hoping that by learning this, I
MAY be able to "translate" those commands to FreeBSD.

vy 73,

Ken W7EKB

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fldigi and fllog development releases at

 

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Index of /alpha/fllog

commit 04f7b0cc942612e5174594b2dab99cdce3a16aa2
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Sat Oct 19 20:47:41 2024 -0500

??? alpha

commit f6928791bcd46949d13d745dc34dea14494d8661
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Sat Oct 19 20:47:23 2024 -0500

??? Hell modes
?? ?
????? * dup check all Hell submodes as a single mode

commit c5766d56911ef79f5441740bfe5867ebe66493b0
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Tue Jan 16 20:00:00 2024 -0600

??? Version 1.2.8

=======================================================

and


Index of /alpha/fldigi

commit 53d71ba5e6a32a0944398dfdb3af237a529e2201
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Sat Oct 19 19:51:00 2024 -0500

??? alpha

commit 6eae131e98abb68c477f214bb87c3072ae42b1ee
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Sat Oct 19 20:53:24 2024 -0500

??? Hell modes
?? ?
????? * Make all modes equal for duplicate test.? Include
??????? mode designations prior to ADIF conformance code change.

commit b4e763fe467d8067c4b420d53c4859327fed02c9
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Fri Oct 18 06:37:04 2024 -0500

??? ui_colors
?? ?
????? * fix bugs introduced by commit 9bd273df32722882f4761651

commit ea5302cfe740a469354f98f9a3300351ac3d3b64
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Fri Oct 11 08:51:29 2024 -0500

??? Version 4.2.06

73, David, W1HKJ



Re: [winfldigi] fldigi 4.2.06 posted at

 

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Thank you for the bug report Graeme.? I confirm that this is occuring and will do further testing and coding to correct the problem.

David, W1HKJ

On 10/16/24 04:50, G Davidson wrote:

Hi David,
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Thank you for your ongoing efforts!
?
I little observation since updating to this version. The waterfall colour scheme seems no longer to be honoured after changing it from default, closing and re-launching fldigi. The correct pallete is opened on launch but the colour scheme remains the default one.

In the example below blue1.pal is saved in the config and displays/renders correctly at the time of configuring but on restarting Fldigi, blue1.pal is loaded but the palette is not blue1.pal
?



Thanks in advance for any assistance!
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fldigi 4.2.06 posted at

 

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Index of /files/fldigi

and at

Refer to readme.txt for list of changes since 4.2.05.

73, David
W1HKJ