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hi
Ive a authentic hugen vna years old still works fantasticand ive just switched it back on, ive had this problem before and Roger Need told we what to do.
i only use this for swr tests and need to set a scaleof some sort or refence, as my reading are all stuck along top of screen
many thanx Iain
how do i do a fatory reset on this
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The-F model has a 4 inch screen with either the rocker switch or pushbuttons depending upon models. Hugan made an original VanoVNA that was small and had the rocker switch. *Clyde K. Spencer* On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 10:21 AM MM6iXE via groups.io <sota= [email protected]> wrote: hi
Ive a authentic hugen vna years old still works fantasticand ive just
switched it back on, ive had this problem before and Roger Need told we
what to do.
i only use this for swr tests and need to set a scaleof some sort or
refence, as my reading are all stuck along top of screen
many thanx Iain
how do i do a fatory reset on this
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On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 10:21 AM, MM6iXE wrote:
authentic hugen
Hugen made the -H, not the -F. The "F" has a 4.2 inch screen and a metal case. (I have both.) You could try installing a new firmware update, or do a full re-calibration. " my reading are all stuck along top of screen" An "open" or break in your co-ax would also cause that display. -- Doug, K8RFT
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The Hugen -H/H4 firmware (or DiSlord FW) is not compatible with the Deepelec NanoVNA-F. There are significant hardware differences not the least of which is the screen resolution.
You really need to determine which hardware you have and make sure you load the correct firmware for your hardware.
If you have a Deepelec NanoVNA-F, be aware the firmware download zip file contains 3 files for the 3 different hardware versions.
Similarly, the -H and -H4 firmware are different for the 3" and 4" Hugen-style screen versions.
You need to ensure you flash the correct file to match your hardware.
HTH...Bob VK2ZRE
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On 20/02/2023 1:38 am, DougVL wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 10:21 AM, MM6iXE wrote:
authentic hugen
Hugen made the -H, not the -F. The "F" has a 4.2 inch screen and a metal case.
(I have both.)
You could try installing a new firmware update, or do a full re-calibration.
" my reading are all stuck along top of screen" An "open" or break in your co-ax would also cause that display.
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On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 07:16 PM, Bob Ecclestone VK2ZRE wrote:
The Hugen -H/H4 firmware (or DiSlord FW) is not compatible with the Deepelec
NanoVNA-F. There are significant hardware differences not the least of which
is the screen resolution.
And even a different microprocessor! Firmware for one will NOT work on the other. -- Doug, K8RFT
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Yes it¡¯s the small plastic with rocker so it¡¯s the H
I had this problem before for swr readings
What should my scale divisions be set to
My Elad shows my swr as a bit high, but won¡¯t let me key out of band, to see where swr is lowest
Roger need said previously set my scale divisions to ??
MM6IXE
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On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 09:27 AM, MM6iXE wrote:
Roger need said previously set my scale divisions to ??
Increase scale divisions to 2, or 5, or 10 - whatever is needed to bring the display into visibility, down from the top of the screen. It's like trying to read a 10 volt voltage with the voltmeter set for 2 or 5 volts full scale. Out of range. -- Doug, K8RFT
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Hi Bob, VK2ZRE - Your above post mentions, "There are significant hardware differences not the least of which is the screen resolution."
I have looked at the DeepVNA 101 web information and didn't see anything related to the screen resolution - it just says it has a 4.3 inch screen.
Can you elaborate on the screen resolution differences between the H4 and DeepVNA 101?
Thanks ....
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4 or 4.3 inch is higher resolution as the 2.8 or 3.2 inch models (be it a nano vna or a vna v2 or any of its clones or cousins,sister, brothers .. you name it)
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Am 22.02.2023 um 00:47 schrieb Fred, W9KEY:
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Hi Bob, VK2ZRE - Your above post mentions, "There are significant hardware differences not the least of which is the screen resolution."
I have looked at the DeepVNA 101 web information and didn't see anything related to the screen resolution - it just says it has a 4.3 inch screen.
Can you elaborate on the screen resolution differences between the H4 and DeepVNA 101?
Thanks ....
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Hi Fred,
The Deepelec NanoVNA-F and DeepVNA-101 use a 4.3" IPS Display with 800 x 480 pixel resolution.
The Hugen NanoVNA-H4 (and TinySA Ultra) use a 4" TFT (I think it is TFT) display with 480 x 320 pixel resolution.
For completeness, the Hugen NanoVNA-H (and original TinySA) uses a 2.8" TFT display with 320 x 240 pixel resolution.
The Deepelec IPS display is much better outside or in bright light but the the Hugen 4" display is still more readable than the smaller 2.8" (so called 3") used in the original Hugen-H (and original TinySA).
I have a NanoVNA-F, a TinySA Ultra as well as an original TinySA, so I can compare all three screens together.
From a screen point of view, I would go with the Deepelec product, but if you want bleeding edge firmware updates and all the measurement "bells and whistles", go with the Hugen NanoVNA-H4.
BTW, if you are also looking at a TinySA, definitely go with the Ultra. A great little box with so much capability.
HTH...Bob VK2ZRE
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On 22/02/2023 10:47 am, Fred, W9KEY wrote: Hi Bob, VK2ZRE - Your above post mentions, "There are significant hardware differences not the least of which is the screen resolution."
I have looked at the DeepVNA 101 web information and didn't see anything related to the screen resolution - it just says it has a 4.3 inch screen.
Can you elaborate on the screen resolution differences between the H4 and DeepVNA 101?
Thanks ....
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Thanks Bob (VK2ZRE) - very helpful comparison, much appreciated!
I looked closely at the DeepVNA-101 web pages, but couldn't find the screen resolution. It is listed for the older "F" model, so I expect he simply neglected to add to the "101" specs. After much procrastination, I had pretty much settled on finally ordering the "101" (available for almost a year now) versus the "H4". But then I noticed his comment implying a revised "101" would be released soon.
Nuts - that put me back into procrastination mode, wondering what new features would be included???
I've got a RigExpert AA-230 Zoom for general antenna work, so the NanoVNA would mostly be a fun toy (also need to measure some common mode chokes).
Anyone know what changes will be included in the new upcoming "101"??
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On 22/02/2023 19:42, Fred, W9KEY wrote: I looked closely at the DeepVNA-101 web pages, but couldn't find the screen resolution. It is listed for the older "F" model, so I expect he simply neglected to add to the "101" specs. After much procrastination, I had pretty much settled on finally ordering the "101" (available for almost a year now) versus the "H4". But then I noticed his comment implying a revised "101" would be released soon.
Nuts - that put me back into procrastination mode, wondering what new features would be included???
I've got a RigExpert AA-230 Zoom for general antenna work, so the NanoVNA would mostly be a fun toy (also need to measure some common mode chokes).
Anyone know what changes will be included in the new upcoming "101"?? Fred, The same folk released the "DEEPSDR 101" radio receiver with a number of defects which were widely discussed and reported. In spite of many (polite) requests there has been no firmware update forthcoming, let alone any offer of hardware updates to fix the issues. A number of us feel very disappointed about this, not to mention feeling that we have wasted our money (not a cheap device). If it were me, I would consider getting a different device. 73. David GM8ARV -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: Email: david-taylor@... Twitter: @gm8arv
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 02:42 PM, Fred, W9KEY wrote:
But then I noticed his comment implying a revised "101" would be released
soon.
Where does he imply a revision to the hardware? I can't find anything like that. Can you give the URL where you saw it? Actual hardware changes are relatively rare. The firmware, however, seems to be in continuous improvement. I have upgraded mine several times. -- Doug, K8RFT
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Hello Fred,
Re the "new version" of the -101, I think you are getting confused by his comment (in red) on the DeepVNA-101 page stating "2022 New version. Added Rotary Encoder and RTC functions".
This was actually comparing the -101 to the -F. The -101 was released in March 2022.
The two devices are basically the same except for the rotary encoder instead of push buttons (on the HW V3.1) and the added function of the RTC (which would be nice to have on the -F).
Cheers...Bob VK2ZRE
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On 23/02/2023 6:42 am, Fred, W9KEY wrote: Thanks Bob (VK2ZRE) - very helpful comparison, much appreciated!
I looked closely at the DeepVNA-101 web pages, but couldn't find the screen resolution. It is listed for the older "F" model, so I expect he simply neglected to add to the "101" specs. After much procrastination, I had pretty much settled on finally ordering the "101" (available for almost a year now) versus the "H4". But then I noticed his comment implying a revised "101" would be released soon.
Nuts - that put me back into procrastination mode, wondering what new features would be included???
I've got a RigExpert AA-230 Zoom for general antenna work, so the NanoVNA would mostly be a fun toy (also need to measure some common mode chokes).
Anyone know what changes will be included in the new upcoming "101"??
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Rtc adding is easy.. Just needs the xtal
Am 24.02.2023 14:34 schrieb Bob Ecclestone VK2ZRE <becclest@...>:
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Hello Fred,
Re the "new version" of the -101, I think you are getting confused by
his comment (in red) on the DeepVNA-101 page stating "2022 New version.
Added Rotary Encoder and RTC functions".
This was actually comparing the -101 to the -F. The -101 was released in
March 2022.
The two devices are basically the same except for the rotary encoder
instead of push buttons (on the HW V3.1) and the added function of the
RTC (which would be nice to have on the -F).
Cheers...Bob VK2ZRE
On 23/02/2023 6:42 am, Fred, W9KEY wrote:
Thanks Bob (VK2ZRE) - very helpful comparison, much appreciated!
I looked closely at the DeepVNA-101 web pages, but couldn't find the screen resolution.? It is listed for the older "F" model, so I expect he
simply neglected to add to the "101" specs.? After much procrastination, I
had pretty much settled on finally ordering the "101" (available for
almost a year now) versus the "H4".? But then I noticed his comment
implying a revised "101" would be released soon.
Nuts - that put me back into procrastination mode, wondering what new
features would be included???
I've got a RigExpert AA-230 Zoom for general antenna work, so the NanoVNA would mostly be a fun toy (also need to measure some common mode
chokes).
Anyone know what changes will be included in the new upcoming "101"??
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Hello Siegfried,
The Deepelec NanoVNA-F uses slightly different electrical design to the original "edy555" NanoVNA and so does not use the original PCB layout. So there are no "unused" crystal pads.
Therefore the Deepelec hardware is not compatible with the "normal" NanoVNA software and so misses out on the wonderful work by DiSlord and others.
But the superior screen and current Deepelec firmware works for me. (although I would like some of the latest cable measurement capabilities.)
Either way, these little boxes are absolutely wonderful and are a testament to the brilliance of some of those amongst us.
Cheers...Bob Vk2ZRE
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On 25/02/2023 3:32 am, Siegfried Jackstien wrote: Rtc adding is easy.. Just needs the xtal
Am 24.02.2023 14:34 schrieb Bob Ecclestone VK2ZRE <becclest@...>:
Hello Fred,
Re the "new version" of the -101, I think you are getting confused by
his comment (in red) on the DeepVNA-101 page stating "2022 New version.
Added Rotary Encoder and RTC functions".
This was actually comparing the -101 to the -F. The -101 was released in
March 2022.
The two devices are basically the same except for the rotary encoder
instead of push buttons (on the HW V3.1) and the added function of the
RTC (which would be nice to have on the -F).
Cheers...Bob VK2ZRE
On 23/02/2023 6:42 am, Fred, W9KEY wrote:
Thanks Bob (VK2ZRE) - very helpful comparison, much appreciated!
I looked closely at the DeepVNA-101 web pages, but couldn't find the screen resolution.? It is listed for the older "F" model, so I expect he
simply neglected to add to the "101" specs.? After much procrastination, I
had pretty much settled on finally ordering the "101" (available for
almost a year now) versus the "H4".? But then I noticed his comment
implying a revised "101" would be released soon.
Nuts - that put me back into procrastination mode, wondering what new features would be included???
I've got a RigExpert AA-230 Zoom for general antenna work, so the NanoVNA would mostly be a fun toy (also need to measure some common mode
chokes).
Anyone know what changes will be included in the new upcoming "101"??
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NanoVNA-F for outdoors use, -H for indoors. The little 2.8 inch -H is quite inexpensive, and also works well with PC software (NanoVNA-Saver and NanoVNA-APP), showing on a larger screen. With the PC software you can also take, print and save screenshots. The PC software also has different and additional graphing and analysis features than the firmware has.
A little 28 inch -F for $40 or $50 can be worth the extra cost just for the new cable measurement features! [IMHO]
There is a 'hidden' cost to these instruments, though. Adapters! The nano comes with 2 SMA cables and the calibration kit. I have since purchased adapters for PL259, SO239, BNC, and F connectors. And each adapter comes in 4 configurations: M-M, M-F, F-F and F-M. It's also very nice to have a BNC-to-'dual binding post' connector for connecting individual wires. Testing toroid cores is my main use for the binding post adapter.
Both styles of VNA use and share the same set of adapters.
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Doug, K8RFT
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I use this combination also but my indoor model is the H4. I actually have two sets and affixed UHF to SMA and BNC to SMA adapters since I use these connectors. Make sure you get the -F hardware version which uses push buttons instead of the cumbersome thumbwheel switch. It's a lot easier to tune in the cold weather.
I also made UHF and BNC OSL cal kits so that I can calibrate each unit with the adapters.
73 Mike N2MS
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On 02/25/2023 8:43 AM DougVL <k8rftradio@...> wrote:
NanoVNA-F for outdoors use, -H for indoors. The little 2.8 inch -H is quite inexpensive, and also works well with PC software (NanoVNA-Saver and NanoVNA-APP), showing on a larger screen. With the PC software you can also take, print and save screenshots. The PC software also has different and additional graphing and analysis features than the firmware has.
A little 28 inch -F for $40 or $50 can be worth the extra cost just for the new cable measurement features! [IMHO]
There is a 'hidden' cost to these instruments, though. Adapters! The nano comes with 2 SMA cables and the calibration kit. I have since purchased adapters for PL259, SO239, BNC, and F connectors. And each adapter comes in 4 configurations: M-M, M-F, F-F and F-M. It's also very nice to have a BNC-to-'dual binding post' connector for connecting individual wires. Testing toroid cores is my main use for the binding post adapter.
Both styles of VNA use and share the same set of adapters.
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Doug, K8RFT
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On 2/25/23 5:43 AM, DougVL wrote: NanoVNA-F for outdoors use, -H for indoors. The little 2.8 inch -H is quite inexpensive, and also works well with PC software (NanoVNA-Saver and NanoVNA-APP), showing on a larger screen. With the PC software you can also take, print and save screenshots. The PC software also has different and additional graphing and analysis features than the firmware has.
A little 28 inch -F for $40 or $50 can be worth the extra cost just for the new cable measurement features! [IMHO]
There is a 'hidden' cost to these instruments, though. Adapters! The nano comes with 2 SMA cables and the calibration kit. I have since purchased adapters for PL259, SO239, BNC, and F connectors. And each adapter comes in 4 configurations: M-M, M-F, F-F and F-M. It's also very nice to have a BNC-to-'dual binding post' connector for connecting individual wires. Testing toroid cores is my main use for the binding post adapter.
Both styles of VNA use and share the same set of adapters. Yes, it's kind of like buying a vertical mill. That's only the start - now you need to buy all the tooling.
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On Sunday 26 February 2023 04:54:48 pm Jim Lux wrote: On 2/25/23 5:43 AM, DougVL wrote:
NanoVNA-F for outdoors use, -H for indoors. The little 2.8 inch -H is quite inexpensive, and also works well with PC software (NanoVNA-Saver and NanoVNA-APP), showing on a larger screen. With the PC software you can also take, print and save screenshots. The PC software also has different and additional graphing and analysis features than the firmware has.
A little 28 inch -F for $40 or $50 can be worth the extra cost just for the new cable measurement features! [IMHO]
There is a 'hidden' cost to these instruments, though. Adapters! The nano comes with 2 SMA cables and the calibration kit. I have since purchased adapters for PL259, SO239, BNC, and F connectors. And each adapter comes in 4 configurations: M-M, M-F, F-F and F-M. It's also very nice to have a BNC-to-'dual binding post' connector for connecting individual wires. Testing toroid cores is my main use for the binding post adapter.
Both styles of VNA use and share the same set of adapters. Yes, it's kind of like buying a vertical mill. That's only the start -
now you need to buy all the tooling. Which is why when I ordered my unit from R&L, I also ordered adapters to BNC and UHF. What I forgot about was SMA M-F "connector savers" to spare the installed connectors on the unit from much wear and tear, but I did pick a couple of those up at a hamfest at a later date... :-) -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin
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