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Calibration Procedure


 

I downloaded v1.1 of the Calibration Procedure and all is well until
I get to Note 21.

When I connect the two ports together, my Blue Line is at the very
top of the chart and the readout fluctuates around 10 dB (+/- ~ 1 dB).

Their is a Blue tick mark down one division from the top (left side),
but the line is at the top.

What am I doing wrong ?

Tnx es 73, Dick, W1KSZ

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Hi Dick.

The readout fluctuates around 10 dB. That is a significant movement. I would make sure the cables are making a snug connection to the female adapter. Perhaps the cable on channel 1, CH1 is loose or defective.

73' Alan


 

I see information from other posts that there is a quality issue with the female adapter. Take a close look at the adapter and see if there are any obvious defects.

Alan


 

I downloaded v1.1 of the Calibration Procedure and all is well until
I get to Note 21.

When I connect the two ports together, my Blue Line is at the very
top of the chart and the readout fluctuates around 10 dB (+/- ~ 1 dB).

Their is a Blue tick mark down one division from the top (left side),
but the line is at the top.

What am I doing wrong ?

Tnx es 73, Dick, W1KSZ
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Dick,

Does the procedure include a RESET command? I recall this as being required.

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web:
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
 

On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 23:36, Dick <w1ksz@...> wrote:

I downloaded v1.1 of the Calibration Procedure and all is well until
I get to Note 21.

When I connect the two ports together, my Blue Line is at the very
top of the chart and the readout fluctuates around 10 dB (+/- ~ 1 dB).
Have you tried another cable?


What am I doing wrong ?

Quite possibly a hardware problem.



Tnx es 73, Dick, W1KSZ
--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
drkirkby@...

Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100

Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office:
Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United
Kingdom


 

I'll try another set of cables and SMA union and report back.

Thanks,

Dick, W1KSZ

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Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Calibration Procedure

On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 23:36, Dick <w1ksz@...> wrote:

I downloaded v1.1 of the Calibration Procedure and all is well until
I get to Note 21.

When I connect the two ports together, my Blue Line is at the very
top of the chart and the readout fluctuates around 10 dB (+/- ~ 1 dB).
Have you tried another cable?


What am I doing wrong ?

Quite possibly a hardware problem.



Tnx es 73, Dick, W1KSZ
--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
drkirkby@...

Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100

Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office:
Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United
Kingdom


 

Where did you download the calibration procedure from? The downloaded manual I have reads like aChinese Fortune Cookie. It makes no sense and gives me a headache to try to figure it out.


 

There is no needs to download calibration procedure from somewhere. Just use CAL menu:

1) Open CAL menu and press RESET
2) Open CALIBRATE menu
3) Connect O item to CH0 wait 2-3 seconds and press OPEN
4) Connect S item to CH0 wait 2-3 seconds and press SHORT
5) Connect L item to CH0 wait 2-3 seconds and press LOAD
6) Connect L item to CH1, and connect second L item to CH0, wait 2-3 seconds and press ISOLN
note: if you don't have second L item, just leave CH0 open.
7) Connect cable from CH0 to CH1 and press THRU
8) Press DONE

That's it.
After that you can save calibration, or just start measurement with no save.


 

Don't try to press OPEN/SHORT/LOAD/ISOLN/THRU menu for second time, for some unknown reason it leads to the wrong calibration. So, if you failed at some step, just return to CAL menu, press RESET and start it again.


 

On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 21:42, Terry Nixon <TLNixon357@...> wrote:

Where did you download the calibration procedure from? The downloaded manual I have reads like aChinese Fortune Cookie. It makes no sense and gives me a headache to try to figure it out.
This open source project was originated in Japan, enhanced in China,
and is only popular due to the Chinese industrial base.
Many of the contributors to this group are not native speakers of English.

The files section of this group has a PDF that you might find easier
to work with.
/g/nanovna-users/files

In addition, the wiki section is growing by the day, as people here in
this group add and edit new entries.
As I write this there is only a stub page for calibration, but the
good thing about the wiki is that anyone can work on it!

Regards,
--buck


 

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 06:50 PM, <qrp.ddc@...> wrote:


Don't try to press OPEN/SHORT/LOAD/ISOLN/THRU menu for second time, for some
unknown reason it leads to the wrong calibration. So, if you failed at some
step, just return to CAL menu, press RESET and start it again.
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I bought a second NanoVNA which just arrived. It had the 2 trace antenna analyzer firmware loaded. I wanted to upgrade to the recent 4 trace software so I:

1. Uploaded the "CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU" firmware.
2. Uploaded the "edy555 Release -0.2.3-oct-7-19" firmware.
3. Performed a RESET_OPEN/SHORT/LOAD/ISOLN/THRU_SAVE0 calibration.
4. Calibration did not take. OPEN/SHORT/LOAD centered in Smith chart. Thru is 10 dB below reference level.
5. Performed a RESET_OPEN/SHORT/LOAD/ISOLN/THRU_SAVE0 calibration again.
6. Calibration still did not take. OPEN/SHORT/LOAD centered in Smith chart. Thru is 10 dB below reference level.
7. Searched the group for advice, but didn't find anything similar.
8. I had never explored "CORRECTION" under the CAL menu, so decided to see what it did. Clicking on it highlighted the "CORRECTION" label and applied the OSLT correction factors to the data.
9. Performed a CAL_Save0.
10. Everything working.

Maybe when I uploaded the "CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU" firmware, the default state of correction being turned on was wiped and loading the new firmware did not restore it. In any event, hope this saves someone else some head scratching. I initially didn't perform a touchscreen calibration and the touchscreen was fine. After I was sure the unit was working, I went back and did a touchscreen calibration to be on the safe side.

Herb


 

As I write this there is only a stub page for calibration
There has been an exhaustive calibration document in Files
since early August.
Its update, among other calibration content,
is linked in the Wiki Application-Notes page,
which is linked on the main Wiki page:
/g/nanovna-users/wik

.. which now explicitly cites Calibration.

Calibration is also adequately addressed in nearly
(if not all) entries on the Wiki User-Guides page.

.. but I suppose that many are allergic to Wikis


W5DXP
 

I had what looked like the same calibration problem with OSL centered in Smith Chart. I discovered that for some reason, CH1 was selected. When I selected CH0, everything was OK.


 

On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 01:29, Oristo <ormpoa@...> wrote:
Calibration is also adequately addressed in nearly
(if not all) entries on the Wiki User-Guides page.

.. but I suppose that many are allergic to Wikis
My friend, all we can do is to remind people to look in Files and
Wikis for answers to frequently asked questions.
Thanks for helping those resources!
--buck


 

My friend, all we can do is to remind people to look in Files and
Wikis for answers to frequently asked questions.
Thanks for helping those resources!
--buck
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Perhaps the group moderator can add a pointer to the Wiki at the end of each message? We do this on some other groups and it helps - how much it helps may be a good question!

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web:
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


 

I already asked for that a month ago - moderator ignored the request

On Friday, October 11, 2019, 11:27:21 a.m. GMT-4, David J Taylor via Groups.Io <gm8arv@...> wrote:

My friend, all we can do is to remind people to look in Files and
Wikis for answers to frequently asked questions.
Thanks for helping those resources!
? --buck
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Perhaps the group moderator can add a pointer to the Wiki at the end of each
message?? We do this on some other groups and it helps - how much it helps
may be a good question!

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web:
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv