Re: Variation in readings of R value
On 7/4/23 11:16 AM, WB2UAQ wrote:
> Mike and Alan,
> I measured the loss factor for PVC and it was about 0.005 or so at 1 kHz. I did more measurements at RF but will have to go back to old note
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Jim Lux
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
Mike and Alan,
I measured the loss factor for PVC and it was about 0.005 or so at 1 kHz. I did more measurements at RF but will have to go back to old note books. I made a simple fixture to test a
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WB2UAQ
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
It's PVC water pipe.
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Mike
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Mike
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
Most coils have some parasitic C (it can be quite large). That C has a voltage on it, and a lossy dielectric leads to loss.
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Jim Lux
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
Hi Pete.
The inductor is supporting a propagating field. It is both magnetic and electric. You are correct, while the magnetic properties of a core are key to control loss, so are the dielectric
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alan victor
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Re: Best NANOVNA Version that displays reactance, not uH & C
You can change the setting in the menu to display R+jX instead of the default R +inductance/capacitance.
Roger
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Roger Need
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
Alan, How does the loss factor of the dielectric that the coil form is made from impact the magnetic circuit? I have heard others mention this but with no explanation.
Thanks, Pete
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WB2UAQ
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Best NANOVNA Version that displays reactance, not uH & C
Good evening!
I would very much appreciate recommendations on the best version of the NANOVNA that displays reactance values for the markers on the Smith chart, instead of inductance and
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Tom AE5I
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
Excellent Mike. So that is a Qul of 348. I spilt the difference between 6 and 8 ohms... lets say 7... From the appearance of your coil, that seems
reasonable. The material you wound the unit on has a
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alan victor
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
OK I had a go at this with my NanoVNA and got the attached result, which if I follow your calculation correctly equates to Rq = 8.05 ohms.
Coil64 estimates 5.9 ohms which, given the less than ideal
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Mike
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Re: nanoVNA-H net com usb port
Return it and get a refund. Then go to R & L Electronics and purchase a genuine one. Problem solved!!! PS... This is the very best advise ANYBODY can give you!!!
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Dentron
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
Alan
I found the article from your earlier link and will give it a go, thanks.
In the meantime I repeated my measurement with NanoVNA-App calibrated for 6401points and got a slightly lower value of
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Mike
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Re: Pickup Coil Construction for Inductor Measuremenfs
I had the thought to get one some time back, and started looking on ebay. It's amazing how many of these units do NOT have any of the coils with them! I know of one guy who took on one of those and
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Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
Mike,
the article is in this file
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G8DQX list
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
If difficulty in finding the paper from EDN and the figures, here is a pdf abbreviated and a test case circuit screen capture. If you are careful in fixture construction depending on operating
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alan victor
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Re: Pickup Coil Construction for Inductor Measuremenfs
I occasionally see them for sale at hamfests. I have gotten a few that way, but I shouldn't have - I haven't used any yet. Not even the big, (relatively) heavy old U.S. military one.
If you look for
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DougVL
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nanoVNA-H net com usb port
I am using nanoVNA-H
The product was purchased on Ali Express, and I thought it was genuine, but it was fake.
First of all, I am a Windows 10-64bit user.
What did you do to solve the problem
1.
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brojunes@...
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
Thanks Alan I'll have a look at that.
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Mike
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Mike
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
Mike
15 ohms is not too far from what a long inductor made with small gauge wire could have. Q of about 143.
Pete
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WB2UAQ
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Re: Variation in readings of R value
Mike, Scratch that idea about the scales because it doesn't work the same at 4 MHz where the Z should be about +j503 ohms.
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WB2UAQ
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