Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
So how is an end fed using the coax transmission line modeled? Since the coax is two conductors, outside and inside, can the transmission line be replaced by a single wire? W8LYJ RAY
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Ray W8LYJ
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#35736
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
Mike, but she could support beans on that dangling feeder. -- Ron na2o
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Ron na2o
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#35735
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A real end feed dipole option
Cute: Box thinking. An End feed design for the "She Who Must Be Obeyed". A good alternative to the maligned (for good reason) EFD. Can you diagram some more; This could have legs. Lester B Veenstra
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Lester Veenstra
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#35734
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
I would propose measuring with both a 49:1 and a 9:1. I'll bet the two show differing "resonances". This behavior has been documented in a previous post within this thread. Also, the seemingly "good
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W0LEV
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#35733
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
Here¡¯s an idea.. coax (with an RF choke at 1/4 wavelength from end), then continue the center conductor another 1/4 wavelength. That gives you a center fed dipole (so Z is low) AND the feedline
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Jim Lux
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#35732
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
I agree with this completely. Unfortunately my garden isn't long enough for a straight dipole and my wife (the gardener) would not tolerate the dangling feeder. -- Mike
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Mike
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#35731
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
Every ham should have a simple 1/2 wave resonate dipole for A/B testing to keep a degree of sanity. And yes, I agree this is not lab grade ( direction and angle of arrival dependent) but it does,
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Lester Veenstra
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#35730
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RF output from nanoVNA-H and H4
Just sharing some data with this group on the RF power employed when making measurements with a nanoVNA. Using a TinySA Ultra spectrum analyzer, recently I made some RF power measurements from my two
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Bruce KX4AZ
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#35729
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
That implies a 49:1 Balun being used. However in instances of say 2800, the 49:1 leaves a 7:1 needing yet to be tuned. Much of what was in the prior thread still applies here, and I like the
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Andrew Harman
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
Don?t compete with those, call cq yourself. 73 Peter, DJ7WW -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [nanovna-users] where is the end fed natural resonance Datum: 2024-02-27T09:04:48+0100 Von:
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Peter Voelpel
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#35727
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
This is the EZNEC simulation of the feed point resistance of my EFHW varying with source position. -- Mike
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Mike
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
Indeed. My main problem with talking to VK land is not the efficiency of my antenna but the pile-ups of European amateurs with kilowatt transmitters and steerable beams. The fun of the hobby is
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Mike
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#35725
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
?Ok so I meant to say UNUN or a transformer could be used. I recommend reading ARRL antenna book 25 edition, 3.2.6. Counterpoise systems. If not available look at the definition of counterpoise in
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Ray W8LYJ
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#35724
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
A Balun can be a transformer, but not all transformers are baluns. A balun can also be a suitable "RF choke" that prevents RF from travelling down the outside of the coax, or unbalanced currents in a
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Jim Lux
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
I recommend Cebik¡¯s, ¡°Verticals without Vertigo¡± I find his comments about the counterpoise enlightening. QRP Quarterly Cebik Publications ( http://on5au.be/Cebic/QRP%20Quarterly.html ) on5au.be
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Ray W8LYJ
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
A balun is a device used to connect to a symmetrical fed antenna, what you mean is a transformer. 73 Peter, DJ7WW -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [nanovna-users] where is the end fed natural
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Peter Voelpel
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#35721
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
Same. I've built a lot of antennas- My wife would say a garage full. Barring a beam, the endfed gives me great results from little work. One of the better ones I've built/used.
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Will
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
A BALUN is not a transformer. If impedance matching is required, from the feedpoint toward the coax feed: 1) Attached at the feedpoint of the wire: The transformer to match impedances, then 2) In
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W0LEV
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#35719
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
?If an antenna is fed at the end it¡¯s an end fed regardless of length. There are 1/4 wave end fed AM broadcast and 1/2 wave end fed AM broadcast antennas. The BALUN is not part of the antenna
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Ray W8LYJ
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#35718
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Re: where is the end fed natural resonance
That sounds like confirmation bias. When conditions are good you can work the world on a wet noodle. When they are not good you need a kilowatt and an aviation hazard stack in the back yard. That's
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Jim Shorney
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