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Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
In post 17730 I wrote: "Jeff has a bunch of really good blog posts about directional couplers." Here's the blog post I was thinking of but could not find:
By Jerry Gaffke · #17748 ·
Re: Free DSP books, LTSpice
There is also a version of LTSpice for Mac OS/X. The menus are pretty non-standard, but the program is solid.
By Clifford Heath · #17747 ·
Re: Do I have a nanoVNA, or a nanoVNA-H ?
It could be a NanoVNA-H v3.3 by Hugen. He did make some in the "sandwich" style before he used plastic cases. BTW - from the picture it looks like your battery is swelling. If so time to get rid of
By Roger Need · #17746 ·
Re: Do I have a nanoVNA, or a nanoVNA-H ?
All Nanovna 1st iteration devices , including the H are all essentially the same and can use the same firmware.?The newer unit is the H4 and the F, both which use different processors and different
By Larry Rothman · #17745 ·
Do I have a nanoVNA, or a nanoVNA-H ?
Look at the attached photo.... on the back of my 2.8" nanoVNA you can read "NanoVNA", but on the PCB it is clearly readable "NanoVNA-H", followed by the version number 3.3 So, is my unit an -H model,
By Alberto I2PHD · #17744 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
hi, I took the original query "amp" as amplifier - final amplifier power level. bark less - wag more
By Bill Cromwell · #17743 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
The N5ESE probe sees the peak to peak voltage across the diode. The diode should be rated for at least 50 volts, and have just a few pF of capacitance when reverse biased. The low capacitance
By Jerry Gaffke · #17742 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
Most DVM's cannot measure voltage or current at a mhz or more. Best bet with a DVM is to use a diode RF probe such as this: http://www.n5ese.com/rfprobe1.htm Keep the power down to something
By Jerry Gaffke · #17741 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
A current transformer is probably a better way to measure the current. 100:1 turns would be nice. There's some trickiness in making a good transformer, but it is galvanically isolated, and
By Jim Lux · #17740 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
The original question was sparked by having a radio (HF frequencies) that no one can hear transmissions from. The transmission line includes surge protectors, baluns, and HF coax and connectors. Of
By Steve Johnson · #17739 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
Yes, indeed.. Put a T in the coax near the antenna, say, 1/10th wavelength away, and by measuring voltage and phase you could measure fwd and reflected, etc, as well.
By Jim Lux · #17738 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
Assuming it's a sine wave and assuming the load is resistive, a $1 Harbor Freight DVM and $0.50 worth of diode RF probe with calibration chart should do far better than 5% accuracy in measuring power.
By Jerry Gaffke · #17737 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
Differentiating between the "currents going in both directions" doesn't work so well in the case of DC, we need AC signals for that. Jerry
By Jerry Gaffke · #17736 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
The original query was to "test power level (amps) at antenna?". Assuming he means watts instead of amps, we still have to figure out what he means by "at antenna". If he wants to know the power
By Jerry Gaffke · #17735 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
But, the beauty of this method is that one is not locked to 50-ohms. If one chooses to use something other than 50-ohms the measurement is still correct. Dave - W?LEV
By W0LEV · #17734 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
Assuming the dummy load is 50 ohms (viz all that discussion on the list about the loads for the NanoVNA) Most oscilloscopes don't have very tight tolerances on their amplitude accuracy. A Rigol DS1000
By Jim Lux · #17733 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
This method is highly likely more accurate than the Bird Watt Meters at 5% of full scale and other wattmeters offered into the amateur market. Excellent procedure! Dave - W?LEV -- *Dave - W?LEV*
By W0LEV · #17732 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
I measure power into my 50 ohm dummy load by transmitting in CW and measuring the RMS voltage on my scope. P = V*V/50.
By Howard Fidel · #17731 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
Jeff has a bunch of really good blog posts about directional couplers. As I recall, he had a thorough analysis of the Tandem Match, showing exactly how it arrived at a figure for SWR. Unfortunately,
By Jerry Gaffke · #17730 ·
Re: Can Nano be used to test for power level (amps) at antenna?
Jeff, You are correct,. Power delivered to the load is Forward-Power minus Reflected-Power. Unfortunately, none of the popular SWR meters actually measure power. What they do is sample RF voltage and
By Jerry Gaffke · #17729 ·