Re: Measuring Capacitors
Nice find!
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Matthew Rapaport
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#39931
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Measuring Capacitors
I ran into a research paper on measuring capacitors using a VNA that might be of interest. It analyzes capacitance and ESR accuracy for the S11 reflection, S21 series-through, and S21 shunt-through
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Brian Beezley
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#39930
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Re: NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
Have you turned on the VNA's Smith chart? At what frequencies thru your sweep does the trace cross the chart's center (no reactance) line? Those are your antenna's resonant frequencies. The one
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Matthew Rapaport
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#39929
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Re: NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
Joe,
I got licensed a decade after you and did not have a chance to use a balun
or 50 ohms coax then. My 40 and 80m dipoles were fed by 75 ohms TV cable. I
did not have an SWR meter either. Still I
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Jon
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#39928
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Re: NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
Yup!
The Balun Craze is a new Generation thing. Got licensed in 1975, Never ever heard of a Balun.
All my dipoles were direct feed.
Only till recently has the myth of a dipole without a balun will not
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Joe WB9SBD
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#39927
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Re: NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
It's measuring the 3rd harmonic which shows a nice low SWR. how far below 172 Mhz did you start your scan?
Joe WB9SBD
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Joe WB9SBD
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#39926
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Re: NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
I have never seen a problem feeding a dipole directly with an unbalanced
feedline. The last dipoles I had up (which were for 40 and 30 meters) were
just fed by connecting the two leads of the coax
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Zack Widup
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#39925
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Re: NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
Bob,
Would you suggest a voltage balun or current balun at antenna feedpoint?
One ham told me that if you use a voltage balun, it can bring down the high
noise I have on 80m.
Regarding the original
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Jon
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#39924
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Re: NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
Hello Hobride,
Unfortunately you have not supplied a photo of your test setup.
A dipole is balanced at the feedpoint, your VNA is unbalanced.
I suspect your problem is that you do not have a balun or
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Bob Ecclestone VK2ZRE
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#39923
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Re: NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
You did not indicate the range of your sweep.
Try setting the sweep range to 150MHz to 190MHz, recalibrate open/short/load, then measure.
I suspect that you will find the lowest VSWR near 171MHz,
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Milton Engle
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Re: NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
The attchment is missing
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hobride
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Re: NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
Hello,
yes, I have also performed an OSL calibration in the 150-190 MHz range. The SWR at 172 MHz is 4.5
I made the legs from copper wire with ~1mm diameter. The legs are mounted in a plastic tube.
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hobride
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Re: NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
Did you do an OSL calibration of the NanoVNA over the frequency range of
interest? How is the antenna supported? How is it fed? I cannot imagine an
antenna being that far off. Your length calculations
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Zack Widup
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NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
Hello everyone,
I have bought a NANO VNA H4 to build simple dipole antennas.
Now I have made a simple dipole antenna for testing. This should be tuned for 172 MHz. The total length is ~83 cm (2,72
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hobride
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Re: Electrical 1/2 wave.
Hi
a Calibrated smith diagram can show you easily the serial resonance frequency and the parallele one ( Xr = 0 Omh ) ,
- use the 401 sweep points option to have maximum frequency accuracy .
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Team-SIM SIM-Mode
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Re: Electrical 1/2 wave.
Well that makes it simple doesn't it.
Make it slightly longer than expected, then partially cut through the cable or snip it completely off as needed for the short at freq! Cool!
Joe
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Joe WB9SBD
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Re: Electrical 1/2 wave.
Joe,
If you short the far end of the coax and connect the NanoVNA to the other end, each half wave will read a short on the VNA. half wavelengths repeat the impedance on the end, quarter wavelengths
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Gary W9TD
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#39915
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Electrical 1/2 wave.
I have a NanaVNA-H4,
And how would I use it to make an exact 1/2 wave or multiple there-of coax?
1/2, 1.0, 1.5, 2.0, etc...
Joe WB9SBD
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Joe WB9SBD
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Re: NEgative resistance for S11 port antenna measurement
Have you tried reducing the sweep range? It might be informative to reduce the sweep to 25MHz starting at 300MHz, OSL calibrate at the measurement plane and run the sweep. Then move up 25MHz
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Steve Withnell
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Re: NEgative resistance for S11 port antenna measurement
You might be receiving strong signals with that antenna, that interfere with the nanoVNA's measurements. If that's the case, at least some of the excursions to negative resistance should not repeat on
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Manfred Mornhinweg
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#39912
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