Re: Estimating coaxial cable length - using TDR
It's useful to know how to make the TDR work - I've found more than one feedline problem by using TDR - yeah, sometimes if there's combinations of solid, foam, and air dielectric, the distances don't
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Jim Lux
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#33035
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Re: Estimating coaxial cable length - using TDR
Is your coax foam or solid dielectric - RG-6 comes in both forms.
What does the trace look like? (can you save it and post it?) I'd expect around 41-42 meters if set to VF=1 (or 100%).
if it's set
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Jim Lux
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#33034
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Re: NanoVNA Saver Error Message
If it is indeed a USB communication error as others have suggested, have you tried using a different USB cable between the NanoVNA and PC? Maybe even try a different USB port on the PC. Are you
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Ken Sejkora
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#33033
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Re: Estimating coaxial cable length - using TDR
Why are you using TDR to do this task? Just sweep from 50 kHz to 20 MHz and set yellow trace to s11 Phase and Green to Smith chart. Then just spin the marker and you can see what you want.
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Roger Need
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#33032
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Re: Estimating coaxial cable length - using TDR
To directly answer this, what you need to know is the electrical length of the cable, not the physical length. And nanovna-saver can directly display this without the complication of TDR and VF
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Stan Dye
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#33031
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Re: Estimating coaxial cable length - using TDR
Here is a new twist ....
I replaced current , unknown type , unmarked type of coax with
known, good RG6 length plainly marked in cubits and converted them to meters - approximately 35 meters.
Now
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Anne Ranch <anneranch2442@...>
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#33029
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Re: NanoVNA Saver Error Message
I tried a couple of ferrite beads also tried updated software but no luck. I need to get a few more beads to see if that works. Like Stan, I am suspicious that it might be RF. May be a few weeks
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Wes Winkler
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#33028
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Re: Estimating coaxial cable length - using TDR
Step size (span/number of points) sets the "unambiguous range" - if the steps are too far apart, then the true length might be a multiple of 1/step size longer.
So, if you've got, say, 100 ft of coax
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Jim Lux
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#33027
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Re: Estimating coaxial cable length - using TDR
OK, the discussion did covered the theory , now is the time to apply it and be practical.
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I shall repeat
the task is -
is the unknown length of cable in multiples of 1/4 wavelength @ 14 MHz
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Anne Ranch <anneranch2442@...>
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#33026
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Re: Estimating coaxial cable length - using TDR
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Maynard Wright, P. E., W6PAP
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#33025
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Re: Nanovna or antenna analyzer?
#buying
#newbie
I have a NanoVNA H4 and it's great for measuring antennas from inside the shack, but not quite rugged enough to used outside up a ladder. Also the display is hard to read in the sunshine.
For outside
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Mike
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#33024
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Re: Estimating coaxial cable length - using TDR
This would be known as "dispersion" and would cause problems with either the pulsed (time domain) or swept frequency (synthetic time domain) approach. A fast pulse (as used in TDR) has all
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Jim Lux
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#33023
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Re: Estimating coaxial cable length - using TDR
Coax is, of course, not identical to paired cable, but using a low end of 50 kHz makes me wonder whether the velocity might be lower than the published high frequency value sufficiently to skew the
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Anne Ranch <anneranch2442@...>
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#33022
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Re: Measuring swr on fan dipole or windom antenna
All of them together. It will show the SWR of the combined elements, it has no way to distinguish one from another. 73, Don N2VGU
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Donald S Brant Jr
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#33021
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Tdr physical coax length and VF
#measurement
I take a known length of the coax of the same physical batch and do a TDR and see what the measurement is and physically measure the sample coax and then can change the velocity factor to equal the
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K8HTB
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#33020
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Re: Nanovna or antenna analyzer?
#buying
#newbie
There are many models. The smallest, cheapest is about $60. And any (nanovna) model will also need connector adapters.
The models with larger screens than the small 2.8 inch $60 model are easier to
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DougVL
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#33019
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Re: Measuring swr on fan dipole or windom antenna
That depends on your "sweep width" setting - the START and STOP frequencies.
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Doug, K8RFT
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DougVL
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#33018
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Re: Measuring swr on fan dipole or windom antenna
If you are sweeping across all bands the antenna is designed for as the
NanoVNA sweeps across each resonant point it will indicate the SWR for each
band. If you had a fan for 40, 20, and 15 meters
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Clyde Spencer
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#33017
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Re: Nanovna or antenna analyzer?
#buying
#newbie
my friend....dont listen to what people say when they tell you nano vna
isnt as good as a REAL antenna analyzer because that exactly what a nano
vna is. only is generally has more features than
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Brandon Parker <bmanthug@...>
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#33016
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Re: Measuring swr on fan dipole or windom antenna
All of them together. It is showing the swr of the system of antennas. If
one of the elements is for 20M, the swr at 14MHz is primarily affected by
the 20M element - but the other nearby elements
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Stan Dye
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#33015
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