Re: Accuracy
Stan, here's Rudy's answer to your question:
"Yes, I always reset before a new calibration and then check afterwards with Smith Chart OSL."
Brian
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Brian Beezley
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#31411
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Re: Is this NanoVNA faulty with the menu shown like this?
The "scale/div" menu item does not use those other range keys on the
keyboard, like some other items do (at least for the traces with dB values
and phase angles, I didn't try all trace types).
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Stan Dye
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#31410
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Re: How to set up for the Demo RF kit for the 30 Mhz band pass filter reading
#learning
i don't think so, but it runs fine on my Win 10 64 bit machine.
It also runs in parallels on Mac OSX, Win 10 64 bit R85
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Jim Lux
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#31409
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Re: How to set up for the Demo RF kit for the 30 Mhz band pass filter reading
#learning
That's more like it, although it sure doesn't look like a *30 MHz* LPF. More like 10 MHz. You might zoom in on 1-21 MHz.
OTOH those ceramic filters are not necessarily 50 ohms in and out,
Try the
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Jim Lux
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#31408
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Re: How to set up for the Demo RF kit for the 30 Mhz band pass filter reading
#learning
Definitely Log mag is what you want.
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Jim Lux
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#31407
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Re: How to set up for the Demo RF kit for the 30 Mhz band pass filter reading
#learning
Well, it sure looks like a low pass filter - the cutoff looks a bit high for a filter described as a 30 MHz Low Pass. I'd set the span to something like 0.1 to 100.1 (that makes the divisions on the
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Jim Lux
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#31406
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Re: How to set up for the Demo RF kit for the 30 Mhz band pass filter reading
#learning
Is there a 64 bit version?
Thanks, larry
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Lawrance A. Schneider
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#31405
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Re: Is this NanoVNA faulty with the menu shown like this?
Not an issue - you pressed the Scale button and you need to enter a new scale reference then click ENT
Press the <- key to return to the main display.
It's normal for the keyboard to cover part of
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Larry Rothman
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#31404
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Re: How to set up for the Demo RF kit for the 30 Mhz band pass filter reading
#learning
Set it to LOGMAG.
Freq. range was 1 - 100 Mhz.
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PDXer
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#31403
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Re: How to set up for the Demo RF kit for the 30 Mhz band pass filter reading
#learning
I can tell it was wrong setting. It is showing resistance?
I should have set it for LOGMAG?
Will try again later.
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PDXer
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#31402
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Re: How to set up for the Demo RF kit for the 30 Mhz band pass filter reading
#learning
This is what I got.
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PDXer
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#31401
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Is this NanoVNA faulty with the menu shown like this?
The menu display containing k M G is cut off.
It happens in certain occasions, not all the time.
Is this faulty? Or is it because something else?
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PDXer
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#31400
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Re: Accuracy
Sorry to ask, but is he resetting the calibration each time before
calibrating? Missing that requirement was my problem last time I had a
similar issue.
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Stan Dye
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#31399
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Re: Accuracy
I put less emphasis on the 25-ohm measurement after calibrating with 50 ohms because then the load accuracy matters. I think he used a pair of highly accurate HP loads, but who knows the exact values.
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Brian Beezley
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#31398
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Re: Accuracy
Here it is. Same resistance offset (looks like same percentage, too). The reactance slope now extends throughout the frequency span.
Brian
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Brian Beezley
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#31397
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Re: Accuracy
That is weird. The reflection coefficient (raw) is going to be (50-25)/(50+25) or 0.333 That's not getting anywhere near the noise floor.
It would be interesting to see what he gets if he
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Jim Lux
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#31396
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Re: Accuracy
Yes. N6LF calibrated with a 25-ohm load and then immediately measured it. That's why I don't understand the result. The resistance offset looks like a numerical bias issue. I don't know what to make
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Brian Beezley
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#31395
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Re: Accuracy
The actual limitation is the SNR into the detectors. That's driven more by circuit noise within the 5 kHz measurement bandwidth.
In round numbers, each measurement is about 50-60 dB SNR. 60 dB SNR
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Jim Lux
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#31394
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Re: Accuracy
Thanks, Jim. I'll read the analysis.
I didn't realize the ADC was 16 bits. That's a lot. Now I feel even less forgiving about the observed performance.
I don't understand why the possible
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Brian Beezley
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#31393
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Re: Accuracy
The measurements are made by integrating over 1 millisecond, after a I/Q conversion to 5kHz. It's a 16 bit ADC, but the noise floor isn't quite that good, and there's system noise too.
I started a
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Jim Lux
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#31392
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