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Re: Idea: Measuring parameters at different drive levels
Take out the "Regards,Jim" and you won't get a "404"
By Mike C. · #31002 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
To me, the sq
By Jim Lux · #31001 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
Firstly, of course a NanoVNA can be used directly to measure some tube characteristics, such as interelectrode capacitances, without powering up the tube. And then, I don't see why it should be
By Manfred Mornhinweg · #31000 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
A vacuum tube is a multi port device. it is no different than any other device that would be characterized by matrix methods, like Z, Y, ABCD and S. In fact if you search the IEEE data base, you will
By alan victor · #30999 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
Plenty of L-band TWTs around (big honkin' things) and some Nanos go up to 1.5 GHz. But mostly in space applications, and if you're playing in that ballpark, you can probably afford suitable test
By Jim Lux · #30998 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
I learned that S Parameters came into use when devices designed for higher frequencies (UHF and Microwave) had to be characterized. Also, test equipment have to be developed which could measure S
By Mike N2MS · #30997 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
Hard to find a TWT that a Nano could test. He's thinking more 12AX7! (Been using TWT's for over 40 years, don't think I have ever seen one for under 1 GHz.) Kent
By KENT BRITAIN · #30996 ·
Re: Nanovna App v1.1.208 needs a driver?
Its working now white my laptop.
By PA1ES · #30995 ·
Re: Cant fine Aivaible DFU Devices
Its working now, only with the laptop!
By PA1ES · #30994 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
Zack Published S-parameters for a W-band TWT, Figure 5. See:?https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0075447 Regards, Jim Logic: Method used to arrive at the wrong conclusion, with confidence.?
By Jim Whartenby <old_radio@...> · #30993 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
Yes, that's true. But what is the probability that the OP wants to test a TWT? Zack W9SZ
By Zack Widup · #30992 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
Pretty much every manufacturer of Traveling Wave Tubes publishes S-parameters - In particular one tends to be interested in the S12 (reverse gain) at the second harmonic of the intended frequency
By Jim Lux · #30991 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
Most likely. In the really early days, there weren't any transistors that worked above HF. Then some VHF transistors came along. There were no high-frequency FET's in the early days. Now we have some
By Zack Widup · #30990 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
"The frequency ranges used for most commonly-available tubes do not require s-parameters. There are very few tube amps around that operate above 1296 MHz." I remember back in the day, using the giant
By Allasso · #30989 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
I have never seen any manufacturer publish s-parameters for tubes. And the design techniques are different. The parts and methods used in biasing and matching tubes are completely different than those
By Zack Widup · #30988 ·
Re: Measuring Bias-Tee
Yes, I did this kind of testing for HF to UHF range bias-T's. As others said, just connect 2 RF ports to to VNA ports, no DC of course. Look at S21 and S11. I settled on 30 turns on FT37-43 for the
By vbifyz · #30987 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
You would do it the same way you would measure a high voltage MOSFET but since you are asking the question, I would not do it considering the voltages involved.
By Dragan Milivojevic · #30986 ·
Re: Idea: Measuring parameters at different drive levels
That's the kind of capability you get when you step up to the multi-thousand dollar level. Yes. and there's all kinds of interesting measurements and analyses possible. If you look at the
By Jim Lux · #30985 ·
Re: Idea: Measuring parameters at different drive levels
DonIt seems that this thread is headed in the direction of Load Pull measurements.? Those interested can get a heads up here:https://www.maurymw.com/pdf/datasheets/5A-062.pdfRegards,Jim Logic: Method
By Jim Whartenby <old_radio@...> · #30984 ·
Re: Has anybody measured electron tubes
You don't seem to understand the NanoVNA is in NO Way a tube tester. Clyde Lambert KC7BJE
By Clyde Lambert · #30983 ·