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Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
I'm not sure the noise floor is greatly affected by shielding; it would be dominated by the noise of the input amplifier (if any - the original NanoVNA just feeds the mixer through a pad, with no gain
By Jim Lux · #26614 ·
Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
That bites microwave designers a lot - you have a gold plating over nickel, which "sticks" a lot better to many things, and doesn't have a diffusion problem like gold or silver directly on aluminum or
By Jim Lux · #26613 ·
Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
If someone has the skills to create a 3D model for the case, printing with both RF-absorbing carbon-fiber-fill FFF filament along with using cavity-style infill seems it might be a nice upgrade on the
By Dave Johnson · #26612 ·
Re: Nanovna-H4, looking for a case this will fit in.
That's what I suspected. I'd appreciate a photo or two, but I think I could work it out without them. Jim KC3DPO
By Jim Simpson · #26611 ·
Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
(apologies for the previous post; there was some fat-fingering on my part :-) ) I didn't know this, thanks. - Roland 9V1RT
By Roland Turner · #26610 ·
Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
Note that what was discussed in the article was a driven element of an antenna (a microwave horn), not a parasitic (like a parabolic reflector for example). The numbers that you suggest would make for
By Roland Turner · #26609 ·
Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
I endorse N0YWB's recommendation of using self-adhesive copper sheet. On the usual Chinese sales websites one can easily find it, in rolls of various widths, with conductive glue. This copper tape is
By Manfred Mornhinweg · #26608 ·
Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
I'm not sure I would call $45 for a 12 oz can inexpensive unless all alternatives cost more. The article refers to professional applications which can easily absorb such costs. McDermid Chemical which
By 2sheds · #26607 ·
Re: Nanovna-H4, looking for a case this will fit in.
Hi Jim, Some metal working is required: I've made a slot in the top to access the controls and it works fine. I'll put up some more pictures if you are interested. Michael (GW7BBY)
By Michael · #26606 ·
Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
It works ok (skin depth isn't much different), but the real issue is that usually, the adhesive is not conductive.? Folks use this to make toroids for Tesla Coils, but in that application, the HV
By Jim Lux · #26605 ·
Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
That's about 0.7 mil thick.? You might be able to find it with conductive adhesive - in which case you don't need to solder.? The 3M stuff is, this doesn't say one way or another, so I'd assume not.
By Jim Lux · #26604 ·
Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
How about aluminum 'duct' tape for shielding? What are the differences compared to copper tape? Mike C.
By Mike C. · #26603 ·
Re: Nanovna-H4, looking for a case this will fit in.
Here is the one I am using for my H4. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CG4691Y It has some padding, and pockets for cables, etc. ...Bob / AA2FD
By rkennyjr · #26602 ·
Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
Self-adhesive copper foil may be alternative that offers better shielding. I have used it on many plastic enclosures. I can solder bridge between sheets to cover areas wider than 4 inches.
By N0YWB · #26601 ·
Re: Nanovna-H4, looking for a case this will fit in.
I like your solution, but how do you access the controls on the Nanovna? It appears they are all inside the case. What is it that I'm missing? Thanks in advance. Jim KC3DPO
By Jim Simpson · #26600 ·
Re: Shielding and filtering #improvement
Jim, I've used that tin oxide for shielding of a few large products. Visibly it's transparent which was a requirement. But I've found it's only marginally effective, but it's better than nothing. Dave
By W0LEV · #26599 ·
Re: Shielding and filtering #improvement
in practice, touch screens usually have a transparent conductive layer on the top (indium tin oxide is common).? Or the actual LCD display has an ITO top electrode, and the touch screen is resistive
By Jim Lux · #26598 ·
Re: Shielding and filtering #improvement
And how are you going to "shield" the touch screen? And those "thin traces" to the SMAs? They are likely printed against a ground plane in the layer beneath the surface layer and likely adjusted in
By W0LEV · #26597 ·
Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
Here. I look at it this way. 10% in transmission (power) corresponds to a transmitted E field 32% of the incident E field. A surface that reflects 90% of the incident power still allows 30% of the E
By Lou W7HV · #26596 ·
Re: Metalising plastic cases (Re: [nanovna-users] JNCRadio VNA 3G - Vector Network Analyzer - 50k to 3GHz)
I'd call 10dB in power and 20dB in E-field poor shielding and 0.4 dB loss on reflection very good for an antenna. You could take another example, 50%/50%. That's 3 dB each way. We could argue ad
By Lou W7HV · #26595 ·