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Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA #measurement
Alan, Using a cavity would be roughly equivalent to my idea of using a crystal in series with the capacitor to be tested. With the crystal being suitable at HF and low VHF, and the cavity at high VHF
By Manfred Mornhinweg · #21504 ·
Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA #measurement
Everything is possible. But I do think that the main cause of the Q inaccuracy is the limits of the NanoVNA. It's just very hard to measure a very small resistance when it's in series with a very much
By Manfred Mornhinweg · #21503 ·
Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA #measurement
On 3/21/21 1:18 PM, jmr via groups.io wrote: > I think it's a bit optimistic to hope that a VNA could measure that component with a basic s11 measurement. I did a few quick sums and at 100kHz, a 485pF
By Jim Lux · #21502 ·
Re: Performance variations with different FW on NanoVNA-H v3.4
I can't really see any difference on my device when leaving this set to auto or when setting it to 8mA as you describe. /Andreas - SA0ZAP
By sunkan@... · #21501 ·
Re: Problem with Dislord V1.0.45 Solved
Well not quite, John. DiSlord has released v1.0.50 now.? :-) Mike - M0MLM ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* John [mailto:k9ka@...] *Sent:* Monday,
By Mike Millen · #21500 ·
Re: Problem with Dislord V1.0.45 Solved
Hi Group, I finally got my H4 VNA running with Dislord's V1.0.45. My solution was to first load Huygen's V1.0.45, which worked, and then follow up by loading the Dislord V1.0.45 which is now working
By John · #21499 ·
Re: Performance variations with different FW on NanoVNA-H v3.4
After reset calibration, select 8mA output (CALIBRATE->POWER->8mA) and after made calibration (this mode used in 0.8). This also reduce noise on measure. 1.0.50 version fix some bugs after 1.0.45
By DiSlord · #21498 ·
Re: Performance variations with different FW on NanoVNA-H v3.4
This is how it looks on my device now using the 1.0.50 firmware (performing same calibration procedure as described above). I think it looks better, but the 0.8.0 firmware still seems to perform the
By sunkan@... · #21497 ·
Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA #measurement
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 05:56 PM, jmr wrote: > > I tried to repeat Roger's test of a 'Hi Q' 470pF cap with my nanoVNA and > managed to see an indicated Q that was very noisy (as expected) below 10MHz.
By Roger Need · #21496 ·
Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA #measurement
I think the usual way to measure component Q with an S21 measurement is to place the cap in series with an inductor and then put this in shunt as an acceptor circuit to ground. Then measure the notch
By jmr · #21495 ·
Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA #measurement
If you don't ask, you won't find out they say. So here goes, could capacitor Q be measured using the S21 method? Richard, K8CYK [email protected]> wrote:
By Richard Jamsek · #21494 ·
Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA #measurement
I tried to repeat Roger's test of a 'Hi Q' 470pF cap with my nanoVNA and managed to see an indicated Q that was very noisy (as expected) below 10MHz. At 10MHz it was probably averaging a indicated Q
By jmr · #21493 ·
Re: Performance variations with different FW on NanoVNA-H v3.4
Thanks for the update. I appreciate the effort. Looking at the notes you have a fix in the H4 version "-For H4 now allow 7 save slots H - fix tupo on average (now noise floor more better)" Do you
By Mike N2MS · #21492 ·
Re: RF Demo Kit Testing tutorial released
If the transmission line leading to the load and the load are good 50Ohms the length of the line is irrelevant.
By Donald S Brant Jr · #21491 ·
Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA #measurement
It would be interesting to see what type of 470pF cap Roger was testing. The plot shows a Q that collapses to 200 by 1.3MHz. I'd expect the nanoVNA to be able to indicate a much higher Q than 200 at
By jmr · #21490 ·
Re: RF Demo Kit Testing tutorial released
Hello Carl, I have also some documentation around the RF Demo Kit board: /g/nanovna-users/wiki/16592 73, Rudi DL5FA
By Rudi · #21489 ·
Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA #measurement
Look for the Boonton 34A resonant line coupler. A reasonable approach of course is build your own. A target unloaded Q that would be of value is 500 to a 1000 at some target freq... say 400 MHz. Fun!
By alan victor · #21488 ·
Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA #measurement
Quite some time ago I was qualifying ceramic caps for high power PA designs. The vna measurement just can't quite make it. The approach that did work and correlated well with practice in design was to
By alan victor · #21487 ·
Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA #measurement
I think it's a bit optimistic to hope that a VNA could measure that component with a basic s11 measurement. I did a few quick sums and at 100kHz, a 485pF capacitor with ESR 0.58R, -3282R reactance, (Q
By jmr · #21486 ·
Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA #measurement
In another topic the limitations of the NanoVNA when measuring the Q of inductors and capacitors was discussed by Manfred Mornhinweg. /g/nanovna-users/message/21404 This has been my
By Roger Need · #21485 ·