Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA
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Maybe the misunderstanding is in the fact that the reflectioncoefficient has another phaseangle than the phaseangle between current and voltage on the load. These are two different things. The
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Arie Kleingeld PA3A
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Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA
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Gregg-
I concur with your understanding 100%.
Reflection phase with an open is zero degrees and is 180 degrees with a short. Reactive loads (inductive or capacitive) will have phase angles somewhere
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Ray Anderson
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Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA
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Where Roger and I have differed in the past is with regards to the concept of the S11 phase as measured by the nanoVNA.
While Roger has firmly stated in previous conversations that there is no
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Gregg Messenger VE6WGM
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Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA
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Forgot to my Signature
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Cheers,
Ian
Melbourne, Australia
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tinkera123
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Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA
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Hi Roger et al,
I am not about to admit to how many of those misconceptions I have fallen for .... publicly .... :)
I have been 'safe' in the analogue, low frequency, ideal component electronic
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tinkera123
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Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA
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The use of a small piece of Teflon or other plastic between the contacts of the clothespin for doing the OPEN calibration may be a bit problematic.
It will increase the capacitance between the
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Ray Anderson
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Re: nanoVNA - Measuring Inductors and Capacitors (Vers. 3)
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#tutorials
#video
Was just over reading Roger’s excellent thread on using a VNA to examine discrete components. I figured I should be clear with everyone that the method I presented below is not and was never
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Gregg Messenger VE6WGM
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Re: #features #nanovna-saver
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The NanoVNA app by One Of Eleven has this feature built in. It records .s2p files that contain the S11 data that you need. You go into continuous scan mode and then click the record button. It
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Roger Need
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Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA
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Manfred,
Thank you for your detailed and informative post. Lots of good information and tips on how to measure components. I have not seen the same problem with cables up to 30 cm but I will keep
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Roger Need
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Re: #features #nanovna-saver
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#nanovna-saver
There is some python code in the NanoVNA repo that gives examples of how to access the NanoVNA, send commands, and retrieve data. It's somewhat simpler than NanoVNA_Saver, which is also
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Jim Lux
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Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA
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Roger,
I think you basically said it all with this list of pitfalls:
I can only add a little about my own experiences measuring components:
When trying to measure through20cm long SMA cables and
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Manfred Mornhinweg
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Re: #features #nanovna-saver
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Adnan,
Do a search on the message forum for OCTAVE (similar to MATLAB)
There is a lot of info on using it with the instrumentation library - that may be useful to you.
...Larry
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Larry Rothman
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#features #nanovna-saver
#features
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Dear All,
I want to use NanoVNASaver for continuously reading and storing S1.p data i.e. automating my experiments for long duration tests (few hours). Since there is no LabVIEW tool available for
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Adnan Yousaf <adnan.yousaf@...>
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Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA
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This is very good. Thank you for sharing!
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Gregg Messenger VE6WGM
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Re: nanoVNA - Measuring Inductors and Capacitors (Vers. 3)
#measurement
#tutorials
#video
Hi Mike
Here is a brief textual overview of what I shared in the video..
To measure an inductor or capacitor, use a shunt configuration (basically attach the component to your nanoVNA using
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Gregg Messenger VE6WGM
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Re: Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA
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Hello Roger,
Thank you very much for the professional description.
I think alligator leads are not useful in VNA measurements above 5 MHz.
73, Rudi DL5FA
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Rudi
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Re: nanoVNA - Measuring Inductors and Capacitors (Vers. 3)
#measurement
#tutorials
#video
References were given as convenient clickable links in the description below the YouTube video.
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Gregg Messenger VE6WGM
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Pitfalls of measuring components with the NanoVNA
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I thought it might be interesting to start a post dealing with how to accurately measure components like inductors, capacitors and resistors on a NanoVNA. As an RF engineer I have made mistakes over
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Roger Need
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Make menu buttons/font larger?
Can the menu buttons/text be made larger? My eyes are getting old :-)
The TinySA's menu system is much larger and easier to see.
Thanks!
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Tim Marsh
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Re: nanoVNA - Measuring Inductors and Capacitors (Vers. 3)
#measurement
#tutorials
#video
Gregg,
I really appreciate your videos but I am old school and like stuff in writing. Would you have this procedure documented? Nothing fancy but just a short synopsis
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Mike N2MS
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