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Re: nanovna-saver-v0.2.1 Stops Working

 

Rune, thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

I download the '64' version of VC++ 2015 first and that didn't work...8^)

Then did the same for the '86; version and Eureka!..

There it is, a window full with a nice large Smith Chart.

Now to figure out how to use it when my Nanovna-H arrives around the end of December. I'll be doing some reading in the mean time.

Thanks for the assist.

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Chuck, W5USJ


Re: nanovna-saver-v0.2.1 Stops Working

paul larner
 

I get a similar problem,for the first few mins the screen jitters all over the place,then settles down but i have no cursor on the polar or smith chart,its pretty much unusable as it is for me.


Re: New version of NanoVNA-Saver: 0.2.1

 

Hi Kurt and others,

Sorry for wrong copied new post. I deleted it. Now the the correct reply:

Thanks for the detailed reply. You can send to me the measurements in file s1p format? You can measure this with professional grade VNA and export s1p format?

I frequently use zplots and sim smith chart ( ). Both program useful function extensions for vna-s. Many amateur grade instrument not have useful functions (Markers, cursors, graphs, etc.). I like nanovna-saver, many function available without external program. Some amateur grade commercials vna says: Laboratory grade. This is not true, i test the R&S entry level (!) handheld vna, much better.

Of course, many bad connector, adapters, cables exist. For example, my unkown (i think, Hugen, but not 100%) clone nanovna sma thru adapter very bad. Very lossy and not 50 ohm. I have another sma thru, much better. Near ideal with nanovna.

Professional adapters and calibration kit have low loss. I see many cheap adapter lossy. I think, this erros maybe compensatable. But easiest way change to good adapter.

I use lossy port extension trick on low frequncy (if osl calibration impossible), 1,8Mhz to 52 mhz. I not understand square wave signal how many bad. I think not good. Harmonics, for example.

Another questions, the calibrations. Nanova-saver see raw input values? Or selectable? I think not, use only 101 point nanovna calibration. This is bad for expert user, double calibrations. And 101*10 = 1010 point data, interpolate between 101 original calibration points not a best way. I think some ripple from this way, but i will test it. Professional instrument not recommended to use interpolated calibration point. If change frequency range, it works, but displayed the "uncalibrated" warning.

On nanovna, i can not find correct calibration. For example open short load delays not user definable. I have not zero lenght N osl calibration kit. Not all sma short has zero delay. I think requres firmware mod.


Re: 1500Mhz, usable ?

 

On 04/12/2019 14:22, matyslubin@... wrote:
Barry, looks like you are from UK.
I'm planning to buy one of NanoVNAs. Where did you buy your device, eBay ? Which firmware did you use for it?
I will be using my NanoVNA for the same purpose as you, to calibrate my antenna at 1090 MHz. So, ideally will be nice to have 1500MHz range. Thanks in advance for support.
My unit came from an eBay supplier in Basildon Essex, however the listing is no longer there.

I would suggest the nanovna-h which comes with case and all accessories including a USB-C to USB-C lead for use with phones that have USB-C.
This version includes resistors to allow the use of this cable.

Search ebay for nanovna-h and look for the supplier in Basildon.

I think it will come with the 1500MHz firmware (a friend of mine bought one recently and it did). If not it is simple to upgrade it.

For best results be sure to calibrate it over a fairly small range, say 1050 to 1150MHz before using it at 1090, or the 101 calibration points will be too widely spaced.

Nanovna-saver:
Save the calibration to a memory and also to memory 0 before using nanovna-saver.
You can then re-calibrate in the software over maybe 1000 points within the span of use, to get even higher resolution.

Have fun, hope it works out.

Barry


Re: NanoVNA-Web-Client, problem with Chromebook

GM4CID
 

Gwen,

Thank you for this interesting solution, think I will leave this Chromebook stock (Version 76.0.3809.136 (Official Build) (64-bit) as there are several laptops and desktops also in us here, the Chromebook tends to be used for casual browsing and email.

73, Bob GM4CID


Re: nanovna-saver-v0.2.1 Stops Working

 

Have you had any other versions of NanoVNA-Saver running previously?

Do you know if you have a new-ish version of the Microsoft VC++
Redistributable library installed? (I think it should be included with SP1,
but I'm not certain)

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Rune / 5Q5R

On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 at 11:39, Chuck Carpenter <w5usj@...> wrote:

Downloaded the file and moved it to a different folder.
Apps nanovna-saver-v0.2.1.exe
Clicked on the file to run it. A window opened, a flashing cursor
appeared briefly then the dialog box shown in the attached picture opened.

Environment:
HP EliteBook Folio 9470m running Windows 7 Professional SP-1

Any clues, ideas, etc...
--
Chuck, W5USJ




Re: NanoVNA-Web-Client, problem with Chromebook

Gwen Patton
 

I may just do that thing, me. Got a couple of NanoVNAs sitting here. I just hadn't gotten around to trying the web client yet with it. But that can be done.

73,
Gwen, NG3P


Re: USB cable

 

No problem.
We all get ahead when we 'play' with our 'toys'? ;-)


On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 at 5:44 AM, Gyula Molnar<gyula.ha3hz@...> wrote: Hi Larry,
I'm glad that many people have noticed what the original author wrote in the "Know issues" section of the NanoVNA alpha1 kit assembly manual.
I think the same way, thank you for trying to confirm that I'm not trying in vain.

73, Gyula

On Fri, Dec? 6, 2019 at 12:14 AM, Larry Rothman wrote:

Good to know, Bob.?
I had suggested to the devs to use 2 LiPo s with a linear 5v Reg to run the
unit in order to reduce RFI from that charger/inverter chip.?
Banggood has a 2S charging board for about $2 that you run off of an 8 to 12v
source.? I'm going to look at that setup soon in addition to modding the
bridge and freq source circuits per the discussion on Hugen's GitHub repo.?
CheersLarry


Re: USB cable

 

Hi Larry,
I'm glad that many people have noticed what the original author wrote in the "Know issues" section of the NanoVNA alpha1 kit assembly manual.
I think the same way, thank you for trying to confirm that I'm not trying in vain.

73, Gyula

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 12:14 AM, Larry Rothman wrote:

Good to know, Bob.?
I had suggested to the devs to use 2 LiPo s with a linear 5v Reg to run the
unit in order to reduce RFI from that charger/inverter chip.?
Banggood has a 2S charging board for about $2 that you run off of an 8 to 12v
source.? I'm going to look at that setup soon in addition to modding the
bridge and freq source circuits per the discussion on Hugen's GitHub repo.?
CheersLarry


nanovna-saver-v0.2.1 Stops Working

 

Downloaded the file and moved it to a different folder.
Apps nanovna-saver-v0.2.1.exe
Clicked on the file to run it. A window opened, a flashing cursor appeared briefly then the dialog box shown in the attached picture opened.

Environment:
HP EliteBook Folio 9470m running Windows 7 Professional SP-1

Any clues, ideas, etc...
--
Chuck, W5USJ


Re: USB cable

 

When I received my first nano a white gecko clone, the first thing I did was drop it with the dinky microusb cable plugged in. The entire usb connector pulled off and was basically destroyed.. So I did a cludgey fix. I took a scrap piece of PC board and made four islands on it using a Harbor Freight 3/8" spot welder cutter bit.(#63657). Th hen cut one end off an old type A USB cable.and attached one end to the scrap PC board and soldered the leads to the pads. Then I used a small gauge enameled wire and attached to the traces remaining from the old micrusb connector traces. This is the hard part. I cheated on the ground wire and attached it nearby as shown. After I was satisfied I covered the fragile connections in epoxy. The enameled wires are terminated on the other end on the appropriate pad. Its ugly but really pretty usable. Could be improved in a hundred ways. If you wanted you could probably fashion this into a PC board case. Your board could be different so double check where everything goes. I am just throwing out the general idea of how it might be done.


Re: New version of NanoVNA-Saver: 0.2.1

 

For everyone that wants to do complex transmission line analysis and has access to a sufficiently new MSOffice suite I suggest they use ZPlot, a free tool written in Excel
It can be downloaded from here

The excel file contains the calculation models for complex transmission line measurement calculation and compensation using a k0,k1,k2 model.
Using nanoVNA saver you can measure your antenna feedline with the antenna disconnected and replaced with a OPEN/SHORT
The resulting two touchstone files can be imported into ZPlot and ZPlot will calculate a full transmission line model (k0,k1,k2) for your antenna feed cable including the delay.
Then you measure your antenna connected to the feedline and import in ZPlot using the calculated transmission line model and have all the details of your antenna without the impact of the cable or you use the calculated delay in nanoVNA saver to quickly eliminate the biggest impact of the feedline
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NanoVNA Wiki: /g/nanovna-users/wiki/home
NanoVNA Files: /g/nanovna-users/files
Erik, PD0EK


Re: New version of NanoVNA-Saver: 0.2.1

 

Hi Paul,
I did ask you to clarify what the problem was, and what environment you're
running it on. Your description of the problem is in no way clear
enough for me to be able to answer it as it stands.

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Rune / 5Q5R

On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 at 09:49, paul larner <quadzillatech@...> wrote:

is no one going to answer my question then?




Re: New version of NanoVNA-Saver: 0.2.1

paul larner
 

is no one going to answer my question then?


Re: RF Demo Kit Testing tutorial released

 

Hi,
Starting from the end of November 2019, we(NanoVNA-F team) no longer produce RF Demo Kits with WWW.S*T.COM mark.

On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 05:06 AM, El Sid wrote:


What¡¯s the difference between the Deepelec and the many s**t boards
offered at AliExpress, besides the higher price?


Re: NanoVNA-Web-Client, problem with Chromebook

 

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 04:15 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:

" ¡­ Maybe this will work better with NanoVNA-Web-Client. I don't know, I haven't tried it myself, but this is a way to keep the Chromebook useful..."

==================================================================================================
Gwen,
If you have a NanoVNA could you try running the NanoVNA-Web-Client under the GalliumOS and letting the group know if it works.

Tks,

-Herb


Re: NanoVNA-Web-Client, problem with Chromebook

Gwen Patton
 

You have another option, Bob.

We have two older Chromebooks, the Acer 11.6" CB3-111-C8UB. They've long been out of updates, and we replaced them with a couple of newer Asus Flip Chromebooks that really work well. But what to do with the OLD ones? The CROUTON tool lets you sort of dual-boot it with a flavor of Ubuntu Linux, but I found that GalliumOS is much easier to install and use. You can do the dual boot thing if you want, or if you don't care if it still has the ChromeOS partition, you can just reflash the whole thing over to Linux using GalliumOS, a distro of Xubuntu, yet another Ubuntu derivative. It has a live version you can burn to a thumb drive and try out, and if you like it, you can update the firmware to support it as the sole OS on the machine, then do an install from that same thumb drive. It takes about 10 minutes to get everything all set up, then about another 20 minutes to half an hour for it to download and install everything.

GalliumOS supports a whole pile of ham radio programs, including WSJT-X and JS8Call, Qtel (an Echolink client), and a number of loggers of varying degrees of complexity. I got the latest version of JS8Call working with no trouble whatsoever. There's a whole suite of antenna design apps for it, and electronics tools like Fritzing, and you can install whatever browser you like that's available for Linux, such as Firefox. It comes with Chromium, but it's a far more up to date version than what the Chromebook itself had at this point.



Maybe this will work better with NanoVNA-Web-Client. I don't know, I haven't tried it myself, but this is a way to keep the Chromebook useful.

73,
Gwen, NG3P


Re: USB cable

Bob Albert
 

Herb, no idea of the short.? In fact the removed connector seems to have disappeared.? If I could find it (I will) and figure out how to reattach it (I doubt that) I will have a perfect unit.? Oh well.? My best guess is a solder bridge under the plug but it looks okay with the plug gone.? If it were misaligned that could do it.
I found an old cellphone charging cable with an obsolete connector so cut that off and hard wired to the nano.? Then I plugged the USB into a 5V charger I had laying around and I am good to go.
I calibrated the nano and made some antenna measurements and now have two working units.? They agree with one another in impedance.
Only about 20 more projects to go.
I want to thank all for helping.? Larry Rothman gave me the exact point to use.
Bob On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 03:31:43 PM PST, hwalker <herbwalker2476@...> wrote:

Bob,
? Any idea what caused the short at the connector?? Usually the USB-C connectors are not easy to misalign so I was curious as to what you thought might have occurred.

- Herb


Re: errors of "error" models

 

Dear GIN&PEZ;

The process you describe is the one I have been using, and it works just fine. It is just an annoying and unnecessary extra step in the printing process. I still have to walk over to my XYL¡¯s office to get my copy from the printer. :-)

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73

Gary, N3G


Re: NanoVNA-Q out of memory while compiling

 

just tried to clone it from scratch and compile - compiled okay with no errors.

Clone and compile sequence is the following:

$ git clone
$ cd NanoVNA-Q/
$ git submodule update --init --recursive
$ make