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NanoVNA for sale

 

Hi All:
I am selling my recently acquired NanoVNA , this a hugen version from aliexpress, includes the necessary calibration items also I am including a ST-link V2 programmer. $55.00 includes shipping to con US.
Thanks for the consideration. K7SRB Ross Bell


Accuracy of calculated values - Nano VNA and Saver

 

Hi All,

Owen Duffy has recently posted a note about the Nano VNA on his blog.



He makes a few points about the accuracy of calculated values with both the Nano VNA and Saver in particular.

If we first deal with the issue of Return Loss, which is probably the most problematic par, and has certainly caught me out on several occasions.

Just about every instrument I can remember using, has RL shown as a negative curve, even if the units themselves are positive. This is handy if for example you are tuning a filter, as you can see the insertion gain on the uppermost trace and the RL loss on the lower one without them overlapping. It also matches the convention of SWR plots and when measuring the RL of cables it matches the convention of more attenuation being negative.

However Owen makes the point that negative loss is actually gain (double negative) and vice versa, and the existing conventions do indeed lead to confusion and mistakes being made. Maybe return loss should really be called return gain, and then everyone would be happy (well maybe - but this is not a serious suggestion).

However if we put this to one side, there is still the issue of how the values are being calculated, and if they are in fact correct. If not then I think this should be investigated in more detail and fixed, as there would seem to be an opportunity to do this before it propagates further.

Regards,

Martin - G8JNJ


Re: How many hardware versions?

 

The block diagram is missing the measurement of the reference signal?

Op 4-10-2019 om 12:31 schreef hwalker:

Pluto,
That looks like the design currently being sold. V2 will use two synthesizers that overlap and allow it to exceed a 1 GHz measurement range (see attachment).

Herb


Re: info update

 

In your web space I see many files, I need only DMR-CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU.dfu and an executable program, is it correct?
Should I find the program.exe?

..Again:
Reasons you might want to upgrade:
1. TDR capability in firmware. -> Can you measure the length of the coaxial cables?
2. Operation up to 1500 MHz (at reduced performance). -> No thanks (ugly dynamic... I imagine)!
3. DFU mode in firmware. -> So at the moment I can't delete the memory with the DMR-CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU.dfu file?
4. Change from 2 trace to 4 trace firmware (or vice versa). -> Better 2 tracks if it slows down with 4...?! With 2 tracks is the "aa" or "ch"?
5. Change to 800 MHz max operation for better device stability -> Interesting. At the moment I have an abnormal peak at 300Mhz on channel S21, maybe it could solve this problem (maybe it's a self oscillation).

Thanks..


Re: NanoVNA V2

 

Hello group,
some remarks:

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 10:21 AM, Gabriel Tenma White wrote:


* V2 won't have a bigger display because it is too expensive
take a look at Raspberry Pi 3.5" lcds with 480x320 resolution, or bare with ILI9486/ILI9488 controller (a lot of them can be found on chinese shops)

* frequency range will go to at least 3.5GHz; PLL limit is 4.4GHz.
* ADF4350 is used because of cost reasons; ADF4351 is more expensive by a
factor of 5.
please consider the MAX2871 which is cheaper than ADF4350 and offers much more than ADI chips at this price (prices compared at Farnell or Digikey - I know chinese clones are far cheaper...) -the footprint and pinout is the same.


vy73
Slawek/SP9BSL


Re: info update

 

Rob,
Please understand that "DMR-CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU.dfu" will wipe your device and it will not work until you re-load whatever firmware you are upgrading to. It is used to give you a clean slate prior to installing your new firmware. Some users have not been able to upgrade successfully it they do not load "DMR-CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU.dfu" first.

All the tools and instructions you need to perform a firmware upgrade are in the links I previously provided. My best advice is that if you are happy with how the nanoVNA is performing to hold off upgrading the firmware until you see a feature or improvement released that you want.

Reasons you might want to upgrade:

1. TDR capability in firmware.
2. Operation up to 1500 MHz (at reduced performance).
3. DFU mode in firmware.
4. Change from 2 trace to 4 trace firmware (or vice versa).
5. Change to 800 MHz max operation for better device stability

Herb


Preamp noise figure (NF) measurement?

 

I am wondering if the nanoVNA could be used to measure the noise figure for a preamp. If it could, I am assuming it would use S21 results in some manner.


Re: How many hardware versions?

 

Herb,
thanks for V2 logical schematics.
I'm following the V2 topic with a lot of interest.

Diego


Re: How many hardware versions?

 

Pluto,
That looks like the design currently being sold. V2 will use two synthesizers that overlap and allow it to exceed a 1 GHz measurement range (see attachment).

Herb


Re: info update

 

So it's not important to clear the memory?
How to use?
For other questions, what can you tell me?


Re: How many hardware versions?

 

Herb,
there appears to be both a "NanoVNA-H V2" and a (completely unrelated)
"NanoVNA 2" project. The latter project hasn't been very responsive to
questions about who they are, and just seem to have tagged onto the name
because of its popularity.

--
Rune / 5Q5R

On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 12:08, hwalker <herbwalker2476@...> wrote:

Pluto,
Hugen retailed the first NanoVNA based on edy555's open source design. It
is the hardware version that is currently being marketed by all NanoNA
clone manufacturers. In response to a request from edy555, Hugen has
changed the name of his unit from NanoVNA. to NanoVNA-H to distinguish it
from the other clone units. Hugen has said he will be offering an updated
unit in mid October that has a case but the hardware design appears to be
unchanged. A NanoVNA-H V2 is slated for release in 2020. Search this
board for "NanoVNA-H V2" for info on it. A RTOS version, called the
NanoVNA-F is now being sold, but it is a different beast.

Herb




Re: Another ebay deal?

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 05:33 PM, Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd wrote:


To now there are two options
* $28 for a board that will wear out after about 20 connections. (Date from
Hirose datasheet)
* $6 for one which will last 500 matings (Generally accepted lifetime of
SMAs)
Or three... Fit a RCA/0.1" pins/BNC/SO239/SMA (depends what freq range and what is to hand) to either side of a pcb and the DUT (Device Under Test) in between.
Even less than $6 probably assuming you have the PCB etc.
Before comments made about not using SMA yes I 100% understand you are not going to get ?100K kit/lab grade results with a couple old RCA either side of a random bit of PCB, indications probably at best, but then this is a ?50 device in the first place so got to set expectations perhaps? Think I made up and tested 1st HF BPF when and M3 using two RCA (with an expensive VNA) so I know it works, sort of.

72
Dom
M1KTA


Re: How many hardware versions?

 

Thanks hwalker !!
So the Hugen hardware schematics () *should* be that of the cards currently on the market?

Diego


Re: info update

 


Re: info update

 

Where is it?


Re: info update

 

Rob,
Your question was answered in the other topic where you asked it. Duplicating questions in different topics is bad etiquette.

Herb


Re: How many hardware versions?

 

Pluto,
Hugen retailed the first NanoVNA based on edy555's open source design. It is the hardware version that is currently being marketed by all NanoNA clone manufacturers. In response to a request from edy555, Hugen has changed the name of his unit from NanoVNA. to NanoVNA-H to distinguish it from the other clone units. Hugen has said he will be offering an updated unit in mid October that has a case but the hardware design appears to be unchanged. A NanoVNA-H V2 is slated for release in 2020. Search this board for "NanoVNA-H V2" for info on it. A RTOS version, called the NanoVNA-F is now being sold, but it is a different beast.

Herb


info update

 

I would like to update my NanoVNA 2.8"TFT with the Gecko-logo, color whide.

1) Where I find the flash-program?
2) Which files should I use for to clean (Only DMR-CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU.dfu?)?
3) Which firmware version do you recommend?

Info Hardware:
Kernel: 4.0.0
Compiler: GCC 5,4,1 20160919
Architecture: ARMv6-M
Core Variant: Cortex-M0
Port Info: Preemption thorough NMI
Platform: STM32FxB Entry Level Medium Density devices
Board: NanoVNA
Build time: May 5 2019 - 80:35:00

Thanks
Rob


Re: Installed recent firmware - was this a big mistake?

 

Rob,
The DMR-CLEAR_MEMORY_DFU.dfu writes "FF" to each memory location and is only used to clear memory prior to loading a new firmware. Larry has been kind enough to put all the current and past firmware at : /g/nanovna-users/wiki/home under the "Firmwares" section.

Links to the flash utility and instructions for it's use, as well as various other user guides, can be found here: /g/nanovna-users/wiki/User-Guides .

The Wiki and Files sub section of this group are a great resource and will answer a lot of questions for any new user of the NanoVNA.

Herb


How many hardware versions?

 

Hello everyone !
Is there anyone who can clarify the hardware versions?
To my knowledge, the first version is that of ttrftech (edy555) .
Subsequently the version of hugen79 was introduced .
Which version is sold now? I imagine that of hugen79. Is the ttrftech version still on the market?
And are there others?

Diego - I8TIF