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Re: NanoVNA-App in app calibration problem (bug?)
#calibration
#nanovna-app
Thank you, Roger.
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73, Gary At 11:55 AM 3/7/2023, you wrote:
On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 05:44 PM, Gary - W6GVS wrote:Attached to this message... |
Re: NanoVNA-App in app calibration problem (bug?)
#calibration
#nanovna-app
On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 05:44 PM, Gary - W6GVS wrote:
Attached to this message... Roger |
Re: New user to H4 model
Steve Bowers
Yes. Otherwise how would it get the firmware updated.
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Thanks Steve On Mar 6, 2023, at 7:40 PM, Geoff Peters - AB6BT <AB6BT@...> wrote: |
Re: NanoVNA-App in app calibration problem (bug?)
#calibration
#nanovna-app
Exactly where is the file you mention below? I've been unable to locate it. Thanks.
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73, Gary - W6GVS At 02:56 PM 3/5/2023, you wrote:
I looked through the file "NanoVNA traces and formulas.doc" and did not find this there. Maybe there is a newer version of this file somewhere that contains this, or is it somewhere else? |
Re: New user to H4 model
Steve Bowers
Geoff Peters.
I have that file but when I follow the instructions, heres what I get. It in the path you listed. On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 8:49?PM Geoff Peters - AB6BT <AB6BT@...> wrote: C:\Program Files (x86)\STMicroelectronics\Software\DfuSe |
Re: New user to H4 model
Sorry Steve, I do not know anything about updating the nano. I just use mine as it was sent to me.
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Larry? N8CWU On 3/5/2023 3:38 PM, Steve Bowers wrote:
Does not find the STM Device in DFU Mode file. I manually tried to locate |
Re: New user to H4 model
Thanks.? More power to nanovna.
On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 11:15?AM Chris Gardner via groups.io <seaman98= [email protected]> wrote: No problem, enjoy your H4!On Mar 4, 2023, at 11:17, Steve Bowers <bowxyz@...> wrote:[email protected]> wrote: |
Re: New user to H4 model
The last I looked, support for DfuSeDemo had been dropped in favor of StmCube, which, fortunately, supports far more platforms.
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On March 6, 2023 9:25:53 AM CST, N2MS <mstangelo@...> wrote:
Steve, --
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On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 07:25 AM, N2MS wrote:
My version of STMicroelectronics DfuSeDemo does not show a driver for WindowsThe Windows 10 driver works in Windows 11 Roger |
Re: New user to H4 model
64 bit system and loaded 32 bit dfu tools, so no compat driver?
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On March 5, 2023 8:33:54 PM CST, Steve Bowers <bowxyz@...> wrote:
Hmm. That file is there but when I point to it, windows 11 says it¡¯s a non compatible file and if I choose to use it the system mdt become unstable. I chose it anyway and the when going back to the update driver process, the dfu mode still does not show up as an option. --
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Re: New user to H4 model
Steve Bowers
Hmm. That file is there but when I point to it, windows 11 says it¡¯s a non compatible file and if I choose to use it the system mdt become unstable. I chose it anyway and the when going back to the update driver process, the dfu mode still does not show up as an option.
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Thanks Steve On Mar 5, 2023, at 8:49 PM, Geoff Peters - AB6BT <AB6BT@...> wrote: |
Re: New user to H4 model
Steve Bowers
I have Windows 11 pro so maybe that¡¯s the problem.
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What is the actual name of the file? Thanks Steve On Mar 5, 2023, at 5:36 PM, Geoff Peters - AB6BT <AB6BT@...> wrote: |
Re: NanoVNA-App in app calibration problem (bug?)
#calibration
#nanovna-app
OneOfEleven developed the NanoVNA App for personal use and after moving on to other projects kindly posted it as open source for the community to use and modify. Owen Duffy has created a fork of the OneOfEleven App and corrected some of the errors in the program especially on the info sidebar. I assume that he is reading (but unfortunately not posting) this thread because he has written a 3 part informative blog post on calibration in the NanoVNA App. Readers interested in this topic can use these links:
Part 1 - Part 2 - Part 3 - In his discussion he shows that straight line interpolation can result in worse errors than using Cubic spline interpolation. The latter is used in NanoVNA App. He also states that when operating over a wide frequency band that more scan points is better. With that in mind I did some more tests using a NanoVNA-H4 in standalone mode and with NanoVNA App OD12 and version 5.4 of NanoVNA Saver. Calibration conditions ----------------------------- 1. In all cases the SOL was done at the end of 3M of RG-316 coaxial cable fitted with SMA male connectors on both ends. A SMA female was used with a pin header to do the SOL calibration. A 50 ohm 0805 SMD resistor was used as one of the cal loads. See attached photo. Sweep range was 50 kHz. to 900 MHz. 2. The NanoVNA was calibrated on the device using 401 scan points with the default bandwidth setting. 3. NanoVNA Saver was configured to use 401 scan points with 5 averaged sweeps for the calibration. 4. NanoVNA App OD12 was calibrated with 401 and 3201 scan points to see if more scan points made a difference. 8 traces were time averaged and trace smoothing set to 3. Test Conditions -------------------- A 75 ohm 0805 SMD resistor was used as the DUT and swept over the 50 kHz. to 900 MHZ. range. Note that interpolation was NOT required/used and scan point frequencies were the same as that done for calibration. The NanoVNA Saver and NanoVNA Standalone DUT measurements were exported as a Touchstone s1p files and imported into NanoVNA app for comparison. The results are attached. Observations ------------------ NanoVNA standalone and NanoVNA Saver both gave results that are consistent with what is expected for this DUT. NanoVNA app had a downward trend (for 401 and 3201 scanpoints) after 200 MHz. which is not correct. Conclusions ---------------- My suspicion is that something is wrong with the implementation of the cubic spline interpolation in NanoVNA App. Perhaps DiSlord or Owen Duffy will consider adding linear interpolation as an option and removing or fixing the cubic spline interpolation. Roger |
Re: NanoVNA-App in app calibration problem (bug?)
#calibration
#nanovna-app
On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 11:56 AM, <btomek@...> wrote:
The calibration algorithm takes a bit of effort to understand. It was discussed in a previous series of posts. /g/nanovna-users/topic/68975032?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C1%2C0%2C0 There is also a paper by Rytting that describes the one port SOL calibration. You need to solve 3 equations with 3 unknowns and then use the error terms to adjust the measured gamma to get the actual gamma. Roger |
Re: DiSlord build 1.2.19, saved cal files give error when reading
Hi Sigi, I have identified the problem. I was naming my saved files as XX-METER, for easy identification. But recalls always failed. So I tried saving the file as XXMETER, with no dash, and it worked. So somehow the parsing of the file name didn't like the dash.
HTH TheSpud |
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