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Re: DiSlord build 1.2.19, saved cal files give error when reading

 

TheSpud,
I recommend a complete memory wipe before uploading the new firmware.
That will probably help. link:

--
Gyula HA3HZ ( )


Re: DiSlord build 1.2.19, saved cal files give error when reading

 

Hi Sigi,
You are talking about NanoVNA v2, where 1.3.15 is indeed the latest. In contrast, 1.2.19 is the latest version for H and H4.

--
Gyula HA3HZ ( )


Re: DiSlord build 1.2.19, saved cal files give error when reading

 

maybe you saved files without doing a full calibration (SOLT) so there are values missing?

dg9bfc sigi

ps as i have noted .. 1.3.15 is newest

Am 05.03.2023 um 02:27 schrieb TheSpud via groups.io:

Because of the problems with 1.2.14 missing the read from SD menu, I downloaded 1.2.19 and attempted to save my cal files again. They saved without errors, but when I try to read them I get format error.

Please advise what is most recent version that supports writing and reading from the SD card.

Thanks




Re: H4 display defect

 

try resetting connectors maybe?? there could be just a bad contact

try both .. the connector between the boards .. and also the flat band cable (loosen clamp on the flatband .. pull out, reseat and tighten clamp)

also a cold solder joint may cause such things (inspect solder spots around the flat cable)

good luck

dg9bfc sigi

Am 04.03.2023 um 17:32 schrieb Igor - PY3IG:

A user has the nanovna H4 with this display defect. Suggestions before switching to a new display?
Igor.




Re: DiSlord build 1.2.19, saved cal files give error when reading

 

Hi Siegfried, I went back to 1.2.0 and am seeing the format error again.

My hardware is 4.3_MS

Where can I find 1.3.15?

Thanks


Re: New user to H4 model

Steve Bowers
 

Awesome. Much obliged!

Thanks
Steve

On Mar 4, 2023, at 7:11 PM, robert miles <bob@...> wrote:

?I found the youtube videos by W2AEW on the nanovna to be excellent. He does one on updating the H4 from a dfu file

#320: How to update the NanoVNA-H4 firmware using Windows 10 and .DFU file ( )
youtu.be ( )

( )

Coupled with the beginners guide supplied by Roger et al it should get you going.
Regards
Bob
GM4CAQ


On 4 Mar 2023, at 8:32 pm, Steve Bowers <bowxyz@...> wrote:


? That¡¯s great! Much obliged!

Thanks
Steve



On Mar 4, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Roger Need via groups.io
<sailtamarack@...> wrote:



?On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 09:24 AM, Steve Bowers wrote:







I¡¯m trying but I¡¯m getting some erratic information. I¡¯m sure it¡¯s


user error.






I put a copy of the Absolute Beginner's Guide on my Box account for you to
download. Download button in upper right hand corner. Here is the link.





Roger




















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Re: NanoVNA-App in app calibration problem (bug?) #calibration #nanovna-app

 

i measured a patch antenna for 13cm with nanovna app and with calibration in the device and in nanovna app and if i compare smith of nanovna app and smith in the unit .. they look quite similar (if not exactly the same) ...

and measure a 13cm circular polarized antenna is not that easy (on 13 cm every adaptor can be seen in smith)

but ...

the unit uses the avg setting on boot that you have saved in slot 0 (first slot)

if you have a low setting there .. then also measure via app is done with a low average number and so calibration is not "smooth" ... (in other words calibration data has noise in it)

you want a high avg number (many measured and averaged points per step) ... then do a calibration (say 5 to 10 runs) ... and save that file

now you can set avg low in slot 0 (say avg2) ... so when using the software scanning goes a bit faster at 400 points per second

avg setting in unit and avg setting in the soft are two different things (averaging in calibration is a third one .. grin)

so what i do is ... at first i do a slow run (high avg setting in device) to search my correction values (others say do a calibration)

after that i set avg lower (to have a faster readout while tuning an antenna or whatever) ...

same thing for calibrating the software

i first save a high avg number in slot 0 (yes then also scanning in the soft is slower!!) .. do the calibration run .. save that file ... reload it (to make it active) ... then save a lower avg number in slot 0 and do my measurements ...

its a bit tricky to understand that (how does avg in the device correspond with avg in soft?!?)

i try an easy example

calibration in device ... avg set to x5 ... say we do 1 meg steps and only a few (just an example!!)

devide does make stepping as follows

1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,4,4,4,5,5,5,5,5... etc etc (so each point is done 5 times before stepping to next one ... noise is calibrated out that way cause noise is random)

calibration run then also uses 5 values for each point (BEFORE STEPPING TO NEXT!!)

calibration with average in the soft is a bit different

avg in calibration goes (say 5 steps and x5 avg)

12345,12345,12345,12345,12345 (and then save that file after you did those 5 runs with open short and load)

it is different if you measure a value 5 times beore you step to the next ... or if you do 5 times the same 12345 run (and average those 5 runs)

i used easy examples (only 5 steps and not 401) just to show the principle and differences)

no idea if any of you understand all my rubbish hi hi ... but .. i can do NOT find any faults here comparing nano app ... and the device itself

IF I DO THE CALIBRATION CORRECT WAY!!! (means above procedure ... use high avg IN THE UNIT first .. save file, activate and then go from there)

only v2plus4 is a bit different ... even with lower avg number it is not as noisy cause the averaging is done in the bootloader and not in main fw

(dislord may better explain how all these things interact and i do not know how it is done in the newer lite vna or other newer units)

dg9bfc sigi

Am 04.03.2023 um 04:42 schrieb Roger Need via groups.io:

On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 05:54 PM, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:

if you calibrate the cable out then all should show near similar results
.. not??

measure without cable calibration can not work good so question is ...
did you calibrate out that 3m cable??

if calibrated (and calibration IS LOADED ALSO!!) then nanovna_app shows
near perfect results compared to internal calibration

only slight variations depending how high you have set averaging in the
device

higher average gives smoother curves but also a more exact calibration ...

dg9bfc sigi
This was a comparison of how well each one calibrated the same cable and measured a 1K DUT. A new calibration using the same cal loads was done at the end of the 3M cable for each test and then they were compared. The results for NanoVNA App, NanoVNA Saver and Standalone VNA should all be very close because they all are all calibrated the same and used the same 1K SMD resistor as the DUT. Averaging was not used in these tests - just one sweep.

The standalone NanoVNA-H4 and NanoVNA Saver gave very similar results. NanoVNA did NOT do well. As "btomek" pointed out in hos first post there is something wrong with the NanoVNA App calibration algorithm.

Try it your self and see what you get and post your results...

Roger




Re: DiSlord build 1.2.19, saved cal files give error when reading

 

1.3.15 is most actual

(what hw you have??)

dg9bfc sigi

Am 05.03.2023 um 02:27 schrieb TheSpud via groups.io:

Because of the problems with 1.2.14 missing the read from SD menu, I downloaded 1.2.19 and attempted to save my cal files again. They saved without errors, but when I try to read them I get format error.

Please advise what is most recent version that supports writing and reading from the SD card.

Thanks




DiSlord build 1.2.19, saved cal files give error when reading

 

Because of the problems with 1.2.14 missing the read from SD menu, I downloaded 1.2.19 and attempted to save my cal files again. They saved without errors, but when I try to read them I get format error.

Please advise what is most recent version that supports writing and reading from the SD card.

Thanks


Re: New user to H4 model

 

I found the youtube videos by W2AEW on the nanovna to be excellent. ?He does one on updating the H4 from a dfu file

#320: How to update the NanoVNA-H4 firmware using Windows 10 and .DFU file ( )
youtu.be ( )

( )

Coupled with the beginners guide supplied by Roger et al it should get you going.
Regards
Bob
GM4CAQ


On 4 Mar 2023, at 8:32 pm, Steve Bowers <bowxyz@...> wrote:


? That¡¯s great! ?Much obliged!

Thanks
Steve



On Mar 4, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Roger Need via groups.io
<sailtamarack@...> wrote:



?On Sat, Mar ?4, 2023 at 09:24 AM, Steve Bowers wrote:







I¡¯m trying but I¡¯m getting some erratic information. ?I¡¯m sure it¡¯s


user error.






I put a copy of the Absolute Beginner's Guide on my Box account for you to
download. ?Download button in upper right hand corner. ?Here is the link.





Roger

















Re: Driver for nanVNA

 

I have determined that the problem is with the nanoVNA device. It will not
communicate with any of my PCs. I have two with Windows 10 and one with
Windows 7. The nanoVNA works well as stand alone, but will not communicate
with a computer.

Thanks to all for the help that you have been!!

David

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 2:46?PM robert miles <bob@...> wrote:

Hi david
I am not at home right now so not near my laptop but this might help?
On 2 Mar 2023, at 4:44 pm, David Reams <dwr.kj4de@...> wrote:

???It looks like it is conflicting with another port. Below is what I am
seeing on my laptop:


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It appears that it is trying to conflict with Port 3. What is the best
way
to solve the port contradiction?

Again, thanks for your help!!!

David

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 4:36?€?AM robert miles <bob@...> wrote:

Hi David
If you right click on the STM Device in dfu mode and select properties.
Go to update driver.
Browse to the install directory for the STM software ( prob in programs
x86) and press enter.
That should fix it.
Other thing to check is that the com port assigned to the STM USB driver
is correct and not clashing with another in device manager.

Worked for me with W10 on 64 bit machine.
On 1 Mar 2023, at 12:35 am, David Reams <dwr.kj4de@...> wrote:
???I am still unable to get the nanoVNA to assign a port. I have
Windows 10
and the nanoVNA will not automatically assign a port and the program
suggested above does not assign a port. When I place the nanoVNA in DFU
mode it does show "STM Device in DFU Mode". under Universal Serial bus
Controllers. Otherwise it shows "Unknown device" if not in DFU mode. No
port assignment is indicated at all. I might be having a problem with
the nanoVNA equipment itself. When not connected to a PC, the device
works
fine.

Maybe this problem can be solved, but if there is, in fact, a problem
with
the device, no solution would be forthcoming.

Again, thanks for all of your help!!

David
.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 1:31?€?PM Roger Need via groups.io
<sailtamarack=
[email protected]> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 06:33 PM, David Reams wrote:


Can you give me some more information on the STM boot loader and a
source to
download?

David,

There are two different drivers required when using a NanoVNA-H or
NanoVNA-H4. One is required to get a COMxx: port so that your PC can
exchange data with a NanoVNA. The other driver is required when you
want
to do firmware updates on your device.

COM port driver
---------------------

With Windows 10 and Windows 11 the required driver will be installed
by
Windows when you connect your NanoVNA to a USB port. With Windows 7
and
Windows 8 you have to manually install the driver and then plug in
your
NanoVNA. If Windows 10 fails to install the driver (rarely happens)
you
can use the Windows 8 driver. You can check that the driver is
working
by
plugging in and turning on your NanoVNA and then going into Device
Manager
and looking under ports to get the COM port number that has been
assigned
If you power off the NanoVNA the COM port should disappear from Device
Manager. I have put a copy of the drivers on my BOX account for you
to
download. Here is a link where you can download it >>

Unzip and select the 32 or 64 bit version for your computer.

Firmware Upgrade driver
---------------------------------
This driver is only required when you want to upgrade your firmware.
It
does not assign a COM port when the NanoVNA is plugged in and in DFU
mode.
DFU mode is activated in different ways depending on your device and
the
firmware installed. Old devices had to be put in DFU mode by opening
the
case and shorting the Boot0 and DFU pins. In other cases DFU was
accessed
by a Menu selection. DFU mode on the -H4 is activated by depressing
the
rocker switch down and powering on the anoVNA. When in DFU mode the
screen
will be black. You can check that the driver is installed correctly
by
looking under USB controllers and seeing if it shows that your device
is in
DFU mode (see attached screenshot). I have posted a link to the DfuSe
package on my Box account for you. It will install the DFU driver and
the
DfuSe firmware upgrade application.

The Absolute Beginners Guide in the file section of this group tells
you
how to install the DFU drivers that are needed for firmware update and
how
to install the latest firmware.


/g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_6.pdf

You don't have to register to get the DFU program and drivers. I have
put
a copy on my Box account for you...


Roger















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Re: New user to H4 model

Steve Bowers
 

That¡¯s great! Much obliged!

Thanks
Steve

On Mar 4, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Roger Need via groups.io <sailtamarack@...> wrote:

?On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 09:24 AM, Steve Bowers wrote:


I¡¯m trying but I¡¯m getting some erratic information. I¡¯m sure it¡¯s
user error.
I put a copy of the Absolute Beginner's Guide on my Box account for you to download. Download button in upper right hand corner. Here is the link.


Roger





Re: New user to H4 model

 

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 09:24 AM, Steve Bowers wrote:


I¡¯m trying but I¡¯m getting some erratic information. I¡¯m sure it¡¯s
user error.
I put a copy of the Absolute Beginner's Guide on my Box account for you to download. Download button in upper right hand corner. Here is the link.


Roger


Re: H4 display defect

 

If you look inside the H4 there is a connector which the flat cable from the display plugs into. Perhaps it is not seated well and needs to be reinserted and clamped down. If that does not help you will need a new display.


Roger


Re: New user to H4 model

Steve Bowers
 

I¡¯m trying but I¡¯m getting some erratic information. I¡¯m sure it¡¯s user error.

Thanks
Steve

On Mar 4, 2023, at 12:15 PM, Chris Gardner via groups.io <seaman98@...> wrote:

?No problem, enjoy your H4!
On Mar 4, 2023, at 11:17, Steve Bowers <bowxyz@...> wrote:

?Awesome!! Much obliged!!!

Thanks
Steve


On Mar 4, 2023, at 10:57 AM, Chris Gardner via groups.io <seaman98@...> wrote:
?Greetings, May I suggest that you obtain a copy of this document (Absolute Beginners Guide). I am sure you will find the information there.

Log In ( /g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_5.pdf )
groups.io ( /g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_5.pdf )
apple-icon-180x180.png ( /g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_5.pdf )

( /g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_5.pdf )
73¡¯²õ


On Mar 4, 2023, at 09:25, bowxyz@... wrote:


? Help. Newly purchased Nano VNA H4 March 2, 2023.

I've read several posts on the H4 model about firmware and each mention
identifying the proper version and the URL that is listed. Mine does not
have a URL listed. Version is 1.1.01 [p:401, IF20k, ADC:384k, Lcd480x320.
Build Time Dec 30, 2021.

I'm sure there are probably newer versions but I am unsure as to the
process to properly update.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.










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Re: H4 display defect

 

Greetings, One quick and easy check is to make sure that the front and back halves of the case aren¡¯t too tight putting excessive pressure on the display. Try loosening the screws see if the issue subsides

On Mar 4, 2023, at 11:32, Igor - PY3IG <igor.jobim@...> wrote:

?A user has the nanovna H4 with this display defect. Suggestions before switching to a new display?
Igor.





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Re: New user to H4 model

 

No problem, enjoy your H4!

On Mar 4, 2023, at 11:17, Steve Bowers <bowxyz@...> wrote:

?Awesome!! Much obliged!!!

Thanks
Steve


On Mar 4, 2023, at 10:57 AM, Chris Gardner via groups.io <seaman98@...> wrote:

?Greetings, May I suggest that you obtain a copy of this document (Absolute Beginners Guide). I am sure you will find the information there.

Log In ( /g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_5.pdf )
groups.io ( /g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_5.pdf )
apple-icon-180x180.png ( /g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_5.pdf )

( /g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_5.pdf )
73¡¯²õ


On Mar 4, 2023, at 09:25, bowxyz@... wrote:


? Help. Newly purchased Nano VNA H4 March 2, 2023.

I've read several posts on the H4 model about firmware and each mention
identifying the proper version and the URL that is listed. Mine does not
have a URL listed. Version is 1.1.01 [p:401, IF20k, ADC:384k, Lcd480x320.
Build Time Dec 30, 2021.

I'm sure there are probably newer versions but I am unsure as to the
process to properly update.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.










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H4 display defect

 

A user has the nanovna H4 with this display defect. Suggestions before switching to a new display?
Igor.


Re: New user to H4 model

 

Awesome!! Much obliged!!!

Thanks
Steve

On Mar 4, 2023, at 10:57 AM, Chris Gardner via groups.io <seaman98@...> wrote:

?Greetings, May I suggest that you obtain a copy of this document (Absolute Beginners Guide). I am sure you will find the information there.

Log In ( /g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_5.pdf )
groups.io ( /g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_5.pdf )
apple-icon-180x180.png ( /g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_5.pdf )

( /g/nanovna-users/files/Absolute%20Beginner%20Guide%20to%20The%20NanoVNA/Absolute_Beginner_Guide_NanoVNA_v1_5.pdf )
73¡¯²õ


On Mar 4, 2023, at 09:25, bowxyz@... wrote:


? Help. Newly purchased Nano VNA H4 March 2, 2023.

I've read several posts on the H4 model about firmware and each mention
identifying the proper version and the URL that is listed. Mine does not
have a URL listed. Version is 1.1.01 [p:401, IF20k, ADC:384k, Lcd480x320.
Build Time Dec 30, 2021.

I'm sure there are probably newer versions but I am unsure as to the
process to properly update.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.










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Re: New user to H4 model

 


On Mar 4, 2023, at 09:25, bowxyz@... wrote:


? Help. Newly purchased Nano VNA H4 March 2, 2023.

I've read several posts on the H4 model about firmware and each mention
identifying the proper version and the URL that is listed. ?Mine does not
have a URL listed. Version is 1.1.01 [p:401, IF20k, ADC:384k, Lcd480x320.
Build Time Dec 30, 2021.

I'm sure there are probably newer versions but I am unsure as to the
process to properly update.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.