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When I wrote my post I HAD two blank lines that Yahoo Mail removed!
Max
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On Saturday, December 17, 2022, 02:50:41 AM CST, Max via groups.io <kg4pid@...> wrote: 'Unfortunately I find that I can read that message as a result.' Was that "I can" or should it have been "I can not"? I stopped trying to read that post after just a couple of lines. Max ? ? On Saturday, December 17, 2022, 02:26:30 AM CST, David J Taylor via groups.io <david-taylor@...> wrote:? On 16/12/2022 21:44, Jim Lux wrote: For some reason, there were no line breaks in your message. Was it via email, or the web client, or what? Unfortunately I find that I can read that message as a result. David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: Email: david-taylor@... Twitter: @gm8arv
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Re: NO JOY ? MORE MYSTIFIED THAN EVER
'Unfortunately I find that I can read that message as a result.'
Was that "I can" or should it have been "I can not"?
I stopped trying to read that post after just a couple of lines.
Max
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On Saturday, December 17, 2022, 02:26:30 AM CST, David J Taylor via groups.io <david-taylor@...> wrote: On 16/12/2022 21:44, Jim Lux wrote: For some reason, there were no line breaks in your message. Was it via email, or the web client, or what? Unfortunately I find that I can read that message as a result. David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: Email: david-taylor@... Twitter: @gm8arv
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On 16/12/2022 21:44, Jim Lux wrote: For some reason, there were no line breaks in your message. Was it via email, or the web client, or what? Unfortunately I find that I can read that message as a result. David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: Email: david-taylor@... Twitter: @gm8arv
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Re: NO JOY ? MORE MYSTIFIED THAN EVER
Phil, why are you concerned about a specific port number? The port numbers
can change, and update when you plug in a device. They do commonly stay
the same if you plug the same device into the same port, but can change
under various circumstances. You should (with computer and nanoVNA on),
and device manager open, unplug the nanoVNA USB cable, wait a few seconds,
then plug it back in. When you unplug, a USB port should
disappear/deactivate, unless it didn't register originally for some reason
(note that it takes Windows a few seconds to scan and update the device
list). When you plug back in, a USB port should appear/activate - use
whichever port number that is. It should be labeled starting with "STM
...". If there is a little yellow triangle by the new port that appears,
the correct driver may not be loaded. If no port appears, something else
is wrong. First, try another known good cable. Yes, those USB cables are
very prone to error and malfunctioning connectors - so try this first, even
though you think your cable is fine. If it still doesn't work, look in
device manager's USB Controllers section and see if the port is appearing
there - that's where you will see it if the nano is in the firmware update
mode. If it doesn't appear either place, something may be wrong with your
nanoVNA.
Stan
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On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 1:44 PM Jim Lux <jimlux@...> wrote: For some reason, there were no line breaks in your message. Was it via
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NO JOY ? MORE MYSTIFIED THAN EVER
Hi guys & gals, For everyone who has replied, to me, before, this If this none doesnt test your computer, Com Port mettle, nothing will. I just UNinstalled all Com Ports; devices not drivers. I shut-down the system, plugged-in - via USB - rig, hub for ham sftwr, NanoVna, directly into the computer, i.e., NO hubs [the hub for Ham sftwr is in a computer, rear, USB port] Upon booting, the Ports displayed - Device Mgr - were 3, 5 & 6 {4 & 7 are missing, now} One port is Enhanced, one Standard; before, I had 2 sets of Enhanced & Standard. I GOOGLEd how to install NEW Com Ports and the instructions were click on the TARGET DEVICE. ADD means to provide a brand-new, not already present thing. WSJT and HRD are working perfectly, one on 5, the other mon 6. Experimenting, I opened PROPERTIES > Port Settings > Advanced and tried adding Port - well, it was only for the "name" of the Port. Ports already in use said IN USE. ONE OF THE PORTS IN USE was Port 8! The port previously used by Nanovna-saver but NOT appearing in DM, now, even for hidden ports. Since neither SAVER nor APP, work and 8 does not appear in any drop-down list, wither goest Port 8???????????????????????????????? USBDeview shows the following for Porty 8: Port_#0005.Hub_#0001 USB to UART Adapter Communication No Yes No No COM8 DEMO 12/16/2022 3:24:57 PM 12/12/2022 3:21:52 PM 04b4 0008 0.01 02 02 01 WF3W CypressSerial @oem5.inf,%CypressPort%;VIRTUALCOMPORT CypressUsbConsoleWindowsDriver64.sys A~ Cypress USB to UART Adapter 3.13.0.59 CypressUsb.NTamd64 oem5.inf USB\VID_04B4&PID_0008\DEMO Removable, UniqueID, SurpriseRemovalOK
When I clicked-on Port 8, I got: USB-to-UART Adapter Communication NOT connected Safe to unplug NOT disbaled NO USB Hub and DEMO as serial #.I got this as an "error" msg: NirSoft Freeware, the URL and >> USB.IDS is not loaded As an aside, howe DOES one, add a new Com Port? But if 8 is being used, do I need to do this? My only consolation is the pizza I took-home, from last night's PackRat [Mt AIry VHF Club] XMAS feast. Couldnt understand why this crowd is so huge, only in Dec meetings... Thanks for any and all help. Ive "met" some mighty, unique Hams.
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On 12/16/22 5:46 AM, Chris Gardner via groups.io wrote: Very true I prefer a paper copy also for reference material. So many of the questions I see posted are answered within that Beginners Guide.
On Dec 16, 2022, at 07:27, John <johnm@...> wrote:
?@Chris Gardner
I agree totally, the document is exceptionally well written and illustrated. I will be making a paper copy for reference, somehow it registers better that way.
John M0MJE
And this is why I'm not so wild about videos as "reference material". A video is great for a demonstration of how to do something. I just disassembled and regreased my Kitchenaid mixer, and frankly, seeing someone else do it made it a lot easier. The written instructions say something like "apply sufficient grease" - seeing someone do it tells you a lot more. But a video to tell me how to install software, entirely from the command line? 1 page of cut and paste from the screen would have met the need, I didn't need to hear someone talking about "now I'm entering the sudo pip install numpy command" and watching them type on the screen.
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Anyone thinking of printing out this file, I just finished printing in a booklet form.... 2 pages per 8-1/2 x 11 sheet both sides and it was reproduced quite clearly and very readable using only 19 sheets of paper.? Folding and stapling takes a little manual effort.??
JohnKK4ITX
Click Here for Zephyrhills Area Amateur Radio ClubMany of life's failures are people whodid not realize how close they were tosuccess when they gave up.?????? Thomas A. Edison
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On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 08:46:53 AM EST, Chris Gardner via groups.io <seaman98@...> wrote: Very true I prefer a paper copy also for reference material. So many of the questions I see posted are answered within that Beginners Guide. On Dec 16, 2022, at 07:27, John <johnm@...> wrote:
?@Chris Gardner
I agree totally, the document is exceptionally well written and illustrated.? I will be making a paper copy for reference, somehow it registers better that way.
John M0MJE
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Very true I prefer a paper copy also for reference material. So many of the questions I see posted are answered within that Beginners Guide.
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On Dec 16, 2022, at 07:27, John <johnm@...> wrote:
?@Chris Gardner
I agree totally, the document is exceptionally well written and illustrated. I will be making a paper copy for reference, somehow it registers better that way.
John M0MJE
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@Chris Gardner
I agree totally, the document is exceptionally well written and illustrated. I will be making a paper copy for reference, somehow it registers better that way.
John M0MJE
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Another thing to try is to remove the current device driver associated with that port, and then let Windows reinstall that driver when you plug in the nanoVNA...
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On 12/15/22 02:40, Phil, WF3W wrote: Thanks to all who replied to my Com Port problem! It is much easier to add info to the group en masse The following is happening in Device Mgr: when I turn the nanovna on or off, DM registers this hardware change I discovered 2 hidden ports Standard Ports 4 & 5 report: This device cannot start. (Code 10) The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device
Enhanced Ports 6 & 7 report:Currently, this hardware device is not connected to the computer. (Code 45) To fix this problem, reconnect this hardware device to the computer I have no clue how to "connect" these to the system [although, I tried updating the driver] When I turn-on the power supply, for my station, Ports 6 & 7 work properly. However, although Ports 3, 6 & 7 now appear in the drop list, in nano-app, when I click on either one, CONNECTed is displayed for a few seconds, then reverts to DISCONNECTed. Nano-saver still displays no ports and RESCAN does nothing. Can the order, in which I turn-on hardware & softwr, make a difference? Thanks to all, for previous, and upcoming, help. 73Phil, WF3W
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Re: File //NanoVNA PC Software/NanoVNA-App.rar updated
#file-notice
In Windows Device Manager, there's an option (I believe under View) to see inactive devices. :-)
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On 12/15/22 03:46, Ken Sejkora wrote: I found a useful app for inspecting USB ports. There are several out there, but the most useful I¡¯ve found is USBDview. It lets you know which ports are active, as well as which ¡®inactive¡¯ ones are stored in the system that Device Manager won¡¯t display because they are inactive. That helps to identify some ports for which drivers might be installed, but aren¡¯t actively being used. Here¡¯s a link to their website:
Good luck, and have a great day.
Ken -- WB?OCV
From: William Heller
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 07:33 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] File //NanoVNA PC Software/NanoVNA-App.rar updated #file-notice
USB comm ports are assigned a number only when they are connected and can
change when a diffrrent USB port is used so you need to see which port is
added in dev mngr whenyou plug in the nanovna. Hope this helps.
On Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 5:22 PM Phil, WF3W<WF3W@...> wrote:
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Greetings, I can't say for sure whether the solution to your specific questions now may be answered?in the attached document from the files section of this Nano VNA group. But, what I can say, please?do not let the name of the document fool you. There truly is a wealth of information for users at all?levels of this device. I personally refer to it often. The individual who took the time to craft this made?an outstanding contribution.?The name of the document is: Absolute Beginner Guide to The NanoVNA
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On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 03:00:36 PM EST, Roger Need via groups.io <sailtamarack@...> wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 10:16 AM, Phil, WF3W wrote:
Fully admitting full stupidity and/or ignorance, If the nanovna is, in
reality, connected to the sftwr, how can I tell? A self-deprecating way to
ask, how do you choose functions, e.g., SWR, RL, etc. How do you initiate a
sweep? Can only one graph be displayed at one time?
Phil, Here is a link to what the buttons do in NanoVNA App.? Right click on any graph to select graph type and scaling options.? /g/nanovna-users/message/28114Here is a link to a discussion about NanoVNA App. Click on bottom of post to read all 55 messages. /g/nanovna-users/message/28096Roger
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 10:16 AM, Phil, WF3W wrote:
Fully admitting full stupidity and/or ignorance, If the nanovna is, in
reality, connected to the sftwr, how can I tell? A self-deprecating way to
ask, how do you choose functions, e.g., SWR, RL, etc. How do you initiate a
sweep? Can only one graph be displayed at one time?
Phil, Here is a link to what the buttons do in NanoVNA App. Right click on any graph to select graph type and scaling options. /g/nanovna-users/message/28114Here is a link to a discussion about NanoVNA App. Click on bottom of post to read all 55 messages. /g/nanovna-users/message/28096Roger
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In NanoVNA-APP, the right mouse button is your friend.
Click it on the graph (and other places) for tons of options.
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 10:16 AM Phil, WF3W <WF3W@...> wrote: Hi Group-ees,
I may have made progress with Com Ports, using NANOVNA-APP...
When all ports appear in Device Mgr, APP opens with one of these ports
chosen and the Conn/DISConn box says DISconnected [I belive the author
meant "disconnect" or "connect"] Does this sugnify the next click will
disconnect the nanovna?
Fully admitting full stupidity and/or ignorance, If the nanovna is, in
reality, connected to the sftwr, how can I tell? A self-deprecating way to
ask, how do you choose functions, e.g., SWR, RL, etc. How do you initiate a
sweep? Can only one graph be displayed at one time?
Ive searched for a user's manual/guide/tutorials with only SAA-2N found by
GOOGLE. How do guys & gals figure-out this stuff, cold?
73
Phil, WF3W
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Hi Group-ees,
I may have made progress with Com Ports, using NANOVNA-APP...
When all ports appear in Device Mgr, APP opens with one of these ports chosen and the Conn/DISConn box says DISconnected [I belive the author meant "disconnect" or "connect"] Does this sugnify the next click will disconnect the nanovna?
Fully admitting full stupidity and/or ignorance, If the nanovna is, in reality, connected to the sftwr, how can I tell? A self-deprecating way to ask, how do you choose functions, e.g., SWR, RL, etc. How do you initiate a sweep? Can only one graph be displayed at one time?
Ive searched for a user's manual/guide/tutorials with only SAA-2N found by GOOGLE. How do guys & gals figure-out this stuff, cold?
73
Phil, WF3W
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Re: File //NanoVNA PC Software/NanoVNA-App.rar updated
#file-notice
What about clicking on VIEW HIDDEN PORTS? Then delete all and start from scratch.
Greg
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-------- Original Message -------- On Dec 15, 2022, 4:46 AM, Ken Sejkora wrote: I found a useful app for inspecting USB ports. There are several out there, but the most useful I¡¯ve found is USBDview. It lets you know which ports are active, as well as which ¡®inactive¡¯ ones are stored in the system that Device Manager won¡¯t display because they are inactive. That helps to identify some ports for which drivers might be installed, but aren¡¯t actively being used. Here¡¯s a link to their website: Good luck, and have a great day. Ken -- WB?OCV From: William Heller Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 07:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] File //NanoVNA PC Software/NanoVNA-App.rar updated #file-notice USB comm ports are assigned a number only when they are connected and can change when a diffrrent USB port is used so you need to see which port is added in dev mngr whenyou plug in the nanovna. Hope this helps. On Wed, Dec 14, 2022, 5:22 PM Phil, WF3W wrote:
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Siegfried is correct. Click the link that he provided:
Will take you here: See image.
and you will download the latest .exe file to run.
Hope this helps
BTW (by the way) RMB is Right Mouse Button
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On 12/15/22 2:40 AM, Phil, WF3W wrote: Thanks to all who replied to my Com Port problem! It is much easier to add info to the group en masse The following is happening in Device Mgr: when I turn the nanovna on or off, DM registers this hardware change I discovered 2 hidden ports Standard Ports 4 & 5 report: This device cannot start. (Code 10) The specified request is not a valid operation for the target device
Enhanced Ports 6 & 7 report:Currently, this hardware device is not connected to the computer. (Code 45) To fix this problem, reconnect this hardware device to the computer I have no clue how to "connect" these to the system [although, I tried updating the driver] When I turn-on the power supply, for my station, Ports 6 & 7 work properly. However, although Ports 3, 6 & 7 now appear in the drop list, in nano-app, when I click on either one, CONNECTed is displayed for a few seconds, then reverts to DISCONNECTed. Nano-saver still displays no ports and RESCAN does nothing. Can the order, in which I turn-on hardware & softwr, make a difference? Thanks to all, for previous, and upcoming, help. 73Phil, WF3W
Short answer, yes, the order in which you turn on and off hardware and software can make a difference in how the ports enumerate. NanoVNA-Saver uses the python serial package (pyserial) for serial port access. If you have python installed (I'm not sure if you install from the .exe, it actually installs python), you can see how pyserial sees your devices. At the command prompt(>), enter: python -m serial.tools.list_ports -v and you'll get a list of what it sees. NanoVNA-Saver looks through that list looking for VID:PID combinations that it recognizes as being a NanoVNA.
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You could try going into Device Manager->View->Show Hidden Devices then right-click and uninstall all of the USB devices. Then reboot and it should re-find all of the devices and assign them new ports. This may clear up a corrupted entry.
73, Don N2VGU.
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