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Re: NanoVNA
#calibration
Hi all,
Having some confidence I've completed calibration on the band of interest to me (I think I did 10MHz to 11MHz), I am getting the same titled scan of pretty much any number of filters I threw at this (I enclose a sample). I am not sure if I need to return this, or request a replacement some other way. I contacted the seller (R&L), but it doesn't look like they have stock at all and they haven't had any in a while. [image: image.png] Thank you all for you input. Radu. <> Virus-free. www.avg.com <> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 8:23 PM Radu Bogdan Dicher via groups.io <vondicher= [email protected]> wrote: I think I figured it, a bit trial and error and such. The idea seems to be<> Virus-free. www.avg.com <> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> |
Re: NanoVNA 10k-1.5GHz Antenna Network Analyzer?
I purchased the H4 from Alibaba. I'm very satisfied. It was $70 USD delivered in less than a month.
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The vendor was recomended by a microwave group I'm a member of. ?___ Sent from my two way wrist watch 73 de W3AB/GEO? On May 23, 2020, 11:12, at 11:12, Dave B <davebullockmbe@...> wrote:
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NanoVNA 10k-1.5GHz Antenna Network Analyzer?
I am looking for a nanoVNA that will cover 23cms band and has a larger screen that my old eyes can see :-(
At the moment, there are several Ebay sellers offering what appears to be the 4" screen 1.5GHz version of the nanoVNA at a very attractive price? (attached screen grab) The pictured device claims to be a 4.2 Version (I assume they mean firmware?) so seems pretty current? However they call it an Antenna Network Analyser rather than VNA. I am sure I read on this group that when upgrading the firmware there is VNA, and a separate Antenna Analyser firmware. Also there is a spelling mistake in the on-screen menu :- MARKER is spelled MARKEY leading me to suspect it is a clone? I would welcome all your experienced advice and advice please :- 1) Has anyone purchased one of these devices recently off Ebay ? 2) Is it running the full VNA firmware ie. Logmag, Phase, Delay, Smith, SWR, etc? 3) Does it have the full input screening? 4) is it a Hugen device or a clone? 5) how well does it work at 1296MHz Having bought a cheap nanoVNA only to discover is was rated as a BAD clone on this forum (and spent today adding screening cans to 'tame' the input noise), I thought I had better get some advice from you before making the same mistake again. Thanks in anticipation..... Dave |
Re: Frequency error SOLVED by FW thanks to DiSlord !
I agree with you. My problem was how to modify this ratio into the NanoVNA firmware; thanks to DiSlord, who modified the code with "my" oscillator value and giving to me the modified dfu file,
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i was able to upgrade my NanoVNA with this file and get a very acceptable 1 ppm error instead of the previous -85.5 ppm. Le 23.05.2020 ¨¤ 19:20, avvidclif a ¨¦crit?:
That's the method HP uses in a lot of their gear. They use a very stable TCXO and to calibrate the frequency you change the divide by ratio. On my 8920 to calibrate the frequency you input a 10MHz frequency from a standard (GPS or whatever) and it compares the 2 and then changes the divide by on the internal oscillator (which doesn't run at 10 MHz) to match the reference. Very easy this way, no tweaking. |
Re: Homebrew sheilding
Hi Rudi what did you wish to know?
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My nanoVNA was the 'BAD' clone without screening cans over the input stages and exhibited unwanted vectors due to noise pickup when is Smith Chart mode. Since adding the cans the noise is cured :-) Dave On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 17:05, <reuterr@...> wrote:
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Re: Frequency error SOLVED by FW thanks to DiSlord !
That's the method HP uses in a lot of their gear. They use a very stable TCXO and to calibrate the frequency you change the divide by ratio. On my 8920 to calibrate the frequency you input a 10MHz frequency from a standard (GPS or whatever) and it compares the 2 and then changes the divide by on the internal oscillator (which doesn't run at 10 MHz) to match the reference. Very easy this way, no tweaking.
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Re: Frequency error SOLVED by FW thanks to DiSlord !
Why not ?
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As i want to replace my oscillator in the future, a good idea to reverse to a new value ! Thank you one more time and all the best. Rudi Le 23.05.2020 ¨¤ 18:38, DiSlord a ¨¦crit?:
Good, possibly in future i add command for allow user set this correction. |
Re: Frequency error SOLVED by FW thanks to DiSlord !
BINGO !
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After upgrading with your DFU file, i enter 100MHz in "CW" mode and get 100.00010 MHz at the GPS locked frequency meter. 1 ppm instead of the initial -85.5 ppm ! Fine Job DiSlord and many thanks for your help and DFU file ! Best regards, Rudi Le 23.05.2020 ¨¤ 17:14, DiSlord a ¨¦crit?:
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Re: I produced S-A-A V2.2
#nanovna-v2
I suggest you launch a kit for those who bought and did not have a small display.
Case + display module 4 inches + firmware. |
Re: Frequency error
After reading the option "01", seems that you dfu file should be written into target option "00" (internal flash 64 sectors).
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A 2nd point: NanoVNA v0.8.4.6 Xtail 25997748.dfu is 82 Ko but the uploaded file from my NanoVNA is 129 Ko , is this ok ? Rudi Le 23.05.2020 ¨¤ 10:43, DiSlord a ¨¦crit?:
Try this firmware, just quick build vs XTALFREQ 25997748 |
Re: Frequency error
Hi DiSlord,
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I installed DfuSe, connected to the NanoVNA after "Reset and enter DFU" activated; on the DfuSe screen i have 2 Targets options: -1- 00 Internal Flash 64 sectors or -2- 01 Option Bytes??? 1 sector. What is the correct target ? Thank you for your help. Rudi Le 23.05.2020 ¨¤ 10:43, DiSlord a ¨¦crit?:
Try this firmware, just quick build vs XTALFREQ 25997748 |
Re: Calibration issue causing ripples in SWR?
#calibration
Ed,
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*1)* You've got a typo in your callsign: it should be KC1D*YK* (ROKBL!) *2)* In terms of verifying the fundamental measuring impedance of the nanoVNA, that's a lot trickier. The essence of most VNAs is that the VNA is approximately correct, but to take an accurate measurement the VNA is compared to a set of reference impedances (the SOL calibration). [The nanoVNA S_11 bridge can be seen in the circuit diagram (schematic) for whichever model of nanoVNA you are using.] *3)* Given that you are an M.Math, but I a mere subverter of otherwise pristine mathematics towards practical application (also known as Engineer), then you can probably imagine the system of matrices which make this more-or-less work. *4)* On a very practical note, the cost of a good calibration set can, for good reason, easily exceed the cost of the VNA itself, since nanoVNAs are so very cheap, but accuracy is demanding. *5)* I admire your experimenter's attitude of "Let's just measure it", which the nanoVNA readily allows one to do. The discrepancy that you've measured is one which, a few years ago, would simply have passed unnoticed, without access either to very expensive test gear, or to cheaper test gear that requires a slow manual process that few would undertake as a matter of course! *6)* There is also the question of the impedance of CH1, for S_21 measurements, but that's a rabbit hole for another day. *7)* In short, the measurements that one gets from the nanoVNA are only as good as the calibration references in use. Or if one prefers, the numerical results from a VNA directly come from the calibration set used for those measurements. The numbers *are* the calibration. [That's the essence of it.] HTH, 73, Stay Safe, Robin, G8DQX On 23/05/2020 04:39, ed@... wrote:
So it looks like these SWR ripples can be explained without any problem with the calibration or vna. However, if anyone has suggestions for verifying the output impedance of my nanovna, I'd still like to do it! |
Homebrew sheilding
Hi just spent a UK windy afternoon confined to my radio 'shack' , so decided to upgrade the screening on my 'basic' clone nanoVNA to see if the INPUT 'noise' could be reduced.
I made the screens out of some 'shim' brass foil and formed them round some srbp (Tufnol) formers THAT I made first. I am pleased with the improvement that just a couple of hours 'metal bashing' has produced. Hopefully this will inspire others to have a go? Dave |
Re: Frequency error
Thank you very much DiSlord for your help and work.
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I will install this file this afternoon and inform you for the result. Regards, Rudi Le 23.05.2020 ¨¤ 10:43, DiSlord a ¨¦crit?:
Try this firmware, just quick build vs XTALFREQ 25997748 |
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