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Re: errors of "error" models

 

#94: facupov in our sow : From our Real 4-Port to our Virtual-Real 2-Port - A Simple Proof

Hello,

Allow us, please, to announce that we just finished our simple proof and uploaded the
results at:



Sincerely,

gin&pez@arg

:94#


Re: errors of "error" models

 

ann : next-to-come - facupov in our sow : how our general 4-port
results in our virtual 2-port - a simple proof using high-school math


Re: New version of NanoVNA-Saver: 0.2.1

 

Hi, Rune!
Thanks for your answer in NanoVNA-Saver0.2.0 thread.
I will continue here.
There was a task to find out an impedance of unknown teflon coax cable, which looks like 75 Ohm.
I did it with the help of NanoVNA TDR measurements. A 500 mm piece of 50 Ohm teflon coax cable with SMA connector was plugged into the device and a piece of unknown cable was soldered to its other end and left open. The results are on the device screen photo.
Then I decided to do the same with the help of the built in TDR function of NanoVNA-Saver, as you suggested.
What I saw in TDR window, looks correctly, but when I put marker on the curve, only distance was displayed, but not an impedance value. See the next screenshort. The impedance value can only be read approximately from the impedance axis. I think that it would be very useful to display an impedance under marker.
After that I put device in TDR mode again, menu item - TRANSFORM/LOW PASS STEP and run Sweep in NanoVNA-Saver. The results were very interesting. TDR window displays something wrong. But ¡°S11R+jX¡± window seems to be alike device screen. See the next screenshort. The markers shows true values of impedance of two pieces of cables. Only horizontal axis is in MHz. :)
I think, that it is one of the ways to measure transmission line impedance with NanoVNA-Saver.
Thank you very much!
Merry Christmas!
73! Andy, UA3RAW


Re: First PCB pictures of the V2

 

The design is to be finalized (last prototype verification) in a week. After that it depends on the manufacturer, but I'm guessing a month or so. However I may have a few excess prototypes that I can offer to software/firmware developers early for free (I'm not authorized to sell it).


Re: errors of "error" models

 

#92 ' : Our General Picture of [TheLeastVNA] - Update

Hello,

Allow us, please, to update our General Picture of [TheLeastVNA] [1]
by * c o r r e c t i n g * its its very part referenced to Erik's, PD0EK arrows,
in such a way that our new rephrasing to not be affected by any possible
new look of his picture [2], that is as follows:

"
however, * A N Y * O T H E R * VNA operating in a similar way as a
[LeastVNA], can be effectively considered as this 4-port [LeastVNA]
above :



e.g. the schematic one in the picture by Erik, PD0EK at [2]:



where, the 4 Graphic Symbols shown at the whole upper half of it:

(1) [Sinusoidal Generator]
(2) [a0]
(3) [b0]
(4) [couple of opposite arrows a1 and b1, just before the DUT]

also consist such a 4-port [LeastVNA].

Sincerely,

gin&pez@arg

REFERENCES:

[1] #92: Our General Picture of [TheLeastVNA]:
24 December 2019 - /g/nanovna-users/message/8612

[2] Will do:
24 December 2019 - /g/nanovna-users/message/8635

:#92'


Re: First PCB pictures of the V2

 

Hi Gabriel, based on your experience, what would be an educated guess for the release date and general availability of the new VNA design of yours?

Pablo
LU8ACO


Re: Thermal effect?

 

Thanks QRP and jlxsolutions,

it seems as if I intuitively did the right thing. But I gives a much better feeling, reading about your observations and solutions.

Happy New Year,
Chris, OE1CGS


Re: New extended Tutorial Version 1.5. for the NanoVNA-H

 

Yep!! Thanks for that fix. I did have it there at one point becuase I tested it. But somewhere dropped it the version below. Good spot.

On Dec 24, 2019, at 10:00, Jim Allyn - N7JA <jim@...> wrote:

On 12/24/19 8:19 AM, Rick Commo wrote:
Here is the link wihtout the embedded spaces.

NanoVNA-H.pdf

Not quite. (Missing one %20.) Here it is:



Re: Calibration Algorithm #calibration

 

On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 02:55 PM, hb9 iiu wrote:

And here the mentioned code.....
======================================================
Daniel,
Thanks for sharing the script. Good example of why Python is popular for quick and dirty programming tasks. Has inspired me to try my hand at automating the task of generating transfer impedance conversion factors for RF current probes using the NanoVNA. Your script is good procedural code for doing so.

I attribute part of the popularity of the nanoVNA's to their ease of programming, and ability to accept commands via a terminal program for prototyping. Hopefully other members will be similarly inspired to script and share their solutions to measurement tasks using the NanoVNA.

- Herb


 

There will be one but it takes time to translate.?



On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 at 6:31 PM, Randall Steffens II via Groups.Io<pomology@...> wrote: Hi Luc,

Thanks for the very interesting pdf presentation.? I only wish there were an English version!

Randy
NC8U

On Dec 23, 2019, at 2:46 AM, Luc ON7DQ <on7dq@...> wrote:

Hi All,
Last friday, I gave a 4 hour presentation on the nanoVNA for the local radio club in Ostend, Belgium.
It was attended by over 50 people, see a short report here

A video will be posted online too (but needs some time editing, so be patient ...).

I uploaded a pdf with clickable links in the File section in a new folder "Presentations"
All is in the DUTCH language, but the pictures explain themselves (I hope) ... and Google Translate is your friend ;-)

If anyone wants to do the translation into English, mail me off-list for the original .pptx file.
(my address is good on qrz.com)

73,
Luc - ON7DQ/KF0CR



 

Hi Luc,

Thanks for the very interesting pdf presentation. I only wish there were an English version!

Randy
NC8U

On Dec 23, 2019, at 2:46 AM, Luc ON7DQ <on7dq@...> wrote:

Hi All,
Last friday, I gave a 4 hour presentation on the nanoVNA for the local radio club in Ostend, Belgium.
It was attended by over 50 people, see a short report here

A video will be posted online too (but needs some time editing, so be patient ...).

I uploaded a pdf with clickable links in the File section in a new folder "Presentations"
All is in the DUTCH language, but the pictures explain themselves (I hope) ... and Google Translate is your friend ;-)

If anyone wants to do the translation into English, mail me off-list for the original .pptx file.
(my address is good on qrz.com)

73,
Luc - ON7DQ/KF0CR



Re: Calibration Algorithm #calibration

 

And here the mentioned code.....


Calibration Algorithm #calibration

 

Dear All,

I finally managed to get what I was looking for, but taking a somewhat lazy approach.
I used the excellent open source scikit-rf Python library () developed for RF/Microwave engineering.
To learn using it, I developed the attached small code to very quickly find the resonance frequency of a Magnetic Loop antenna (high Q factor/narrow bandwidth) tuned somewhere between 6 and 30 Mhz.
For the calibration standards I considered ideal characteristics (zero ohms, infinite, 50 ohms) as I do not have a professional calibrated kit.
Purists might be shocked with my coding style, but it has the advantage to be easily understood by beginners like me.
You are of course welcome to modify and improve it, and if so, please share your work.
The code was attached for those who would like to use it as a snippet for other applications, but due to a lack of time, I can unfortunately not make any commitments as regards support.
Thank you for your understanding

Enjoy!

73 de HB9IIU

Daniel

P.S The App was developed, and is running on a Raspberry Pi which I access with my Mac via VNC


App in action:


Re: First PCB pictures of the V2

 

On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Marks <profdc9@...> wrote:

edy555,

I am unfamiliar with Japanese law, but under American law, unless you have
registered the name NanoVNA as a trademark, others can use it freely. I
would personally not use for something that is not the NanoVNA device as
you designed it, but that is my choice. There are many choices for names
and I do not see why all of these variants and redesigns must have the name
NanoVNA. I think it is reasonable to ask that others who create their own
VNAs name them differently to avoid confusion.

I must admit that I find it annoying that I released ATLC under the GPL



then find someone else has released ATLC2



which is very similar in function. To be fair, the author does state

¡° This program was inspired by the *atlc* program written by Dr. David
Kirkby, G8WRB¡±.

However, I wish a very different name had been used by the author of the
other program, as I receive questions about a program that I never wrote.

I have never checked to see if the other program has a single line of code
that I wrote. That would not bother me at all, as I released the code under
the GPL. If you release code under the GPL, then you are inviting others to
use it.

But it is a bit annoying to have someone else write a program totally
independently, and call it by a name that associates it with oneself.

I think next time I release code under the GPL, I will write something in
the source code *requesting* that others don¡¯t use a similar name if they
write a similar program.

Few of us are going to go to the expensive of registering a trademark in
lots of countries, for items or code we give away free. Even if one did, it
would be uneconomic to try to enforce it.


Dave







Best regards,
Daniel Marks
KW4TI

On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 9:24 AM <edy555@...> wrote:

Someone takes the account name of "nanovna" on github.
In that repository, there are projects named NanoVNA-V2 you mention.


You and your team don't have any morals.
As an original developer, I feel my project was stolen.

I cannot cooperate with you and I would like to prohibit you to use my
copyrighted property, Temma.





--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
drkirkby@...

Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100

Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office:
Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United
Kingdom


Re: New extended Tutorial Version 1.5. for the NanoVNA-H

 

On 12/24/19 8:19 AM, Rick Commo wrote:
Here is the link wihtout the embedded spaces.

NanoVNA-H.pdf

???? Not quite.? (Missing one %20.)? Here it is:



Re: First PCB pictures of the V2

 

Can you be more specific as to what copyright you are referring to? The hardware is our own design with nothing taken from your design, and the firmware uses your UI code in compliance with the GPLv3 (as stated in your source code). The name "NanoVNA" is a generic street name by now because there is no registered trademark and everyone is already selling under this name. I'll talk to my customer about possible name changes but as I said we are a contractor and it isn't under our/my control.


Re: First PCB pictures of the V2

 

Our customer owns the "nanovna" account on GitHub and I have commit access. I'll bring up the naming issue with them, but as a contractor we aren't in a position to directly make changes to our customer's accounts. I'll see what I can do.


Re: errors of "error" models

 

Will do

--
NanoVNA Wiki: /g/nanovna-users/wiki/home
NanoVNA Files: /g/nanovna-users/files
Erik, PD0EK


Re: errors of "error" models

 

@Erik, PD0EK - 24 December 2019: /g/nanovna-users/message/8632 :
Dear Erik, Take into account, please, that we already * c o r r e c t l y * rephrased what
you are quoting -obviously by mistake- with your above message, with our message:
/g/nanovna-users/message/8630 , and allow us, please, to definitely
point that we showed the way in which it is proved what you are saying, by our message:
/g/nanovna-users/message/8618 . By the way, in addition of your Maxima
code, of which we are still expecting its correct results, after we answered what you
asked from us, with our message: /g/nanovna-users/message/8482 ,
would you also correct, please, your picture currently existing at your website at:
, because its contents
appear -at least to us- as to be self-contradictory ? Kind regards - gin&pez@arg


Re: New extended Tutorial Version 1.5. for the NanoVNA-H

 

Here is the link wihtout the embedded spaces.

NanoVNA-H.pdf

On Dec 24, 2019, at 06:40, Kurt Poulsen <kurt@...> wrote:

Hi Piotr
The link is as follows to my document
and female calibration NanoVNA-H.pdf
Please note that the female female adaptor you have been supplied with the NanoVNA might differ. The Hugen-H supplied from end of October has a female female adaptor with low loss and the earlier delivered has much higher loss and different delay if length differ. In the document the female female delay is 50.7ps and has a length end to end off 15mm. The previous delivered female female adaptor has the same length but as said higher loss. If you have another female female adaptor test it after S21 calibration with the previous supplied one, and if it show S21 dB trace above the reference line (showing gain) it has lower loss and use it. After my best memory we are dealing with 0.3dB difference and also obscure the calibration when used for female kit calibration.
If it has a different length then adjust the delay with 4.796ps per mm length difference
Kind regards
Kurt

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Emne: Re: [nanovna-users] New extended Tutorial Version 1.5. for the NanoVNA-H

Hi Gunthard,
In your file you refer to "Calibration data for the NanoVNA with the supplied SOLT - Calibration set". I spent hours trying to find this file, without success.
Could you (or someone else) give me a link?
I saw this file somewhere in the past, but unfortunately didn't save it.