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Re: New version of NanoVNA-Saver: 0.2.1
Hi, Rune!
Thanks for your answer in NanoVNA-Saver0.2.0 thread. I will continue here. There was a task to find out an impedance of unknown teflon coax cable, which looks like 75 Ohm. I did it with the help of NanoVNA TDR measurements. A 500 mm piece of 50 Ohm teflon coax cable with SMA connector was plugged into the device and a piece of unknown cable was soldered to its other end and left open. The results are on the device screen photo. Then I decided to do the same with the help of the built in TDR function of NanoVNA-Saver, as you suggested. What I saw in TDR window, looks correctly, but when I put marker on the curve, only distance was displayed, but not an impedance value. See the next screenshort. The impedance value can only be read approximately from the impedance axis. I think that it would be very useful to display an impedance under marker. After that I put device in TDR mode again, menu item - TRANSFORM/LOW PASS STEP and run Sweep in NanoVNA-Saver. The results were very interesting. TDR window displays something wrong. But ¡°S11R+jX¡± window seems to be alike device screen. See the next screenshort. The markers shows true values of impedance of two pieces of cables. Only horizontal axis is in MHz. :) I think, that it is one of the ways to measure transmission line impedance with NanoVNA-Saver. Thank you very much! Merry Christmas! 73! Andy, UA3RAW |
Re: First PCB pictures of the V2
The design is to be finalized (last prototype verification) in a week. After that it depends on the manufacturer, but I'm guessing a month or so. However I may have a few excess prototypes that I can offer to software/firmware developers early for free (I'm not authorized to sell it).
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Re: errors of "error" models
#92 ' : Our General Picture of [TheLeastVNA] - Update
Hello, Allow us, please, to update our General Picture of [TheLeastVNA] [1] by * c o r r e c t i n g * its its very part referenced to Erik's, PD0EK arrows, in such a way that our new rephrasing to not be affected by any possible new look of his picture [2], that is as follows: " however, * A N Y * O T H E R * VNA operating in a similar way as a [LeastVNA], can be effectively considered as this 4-port [LeastVNA] above : e.g. the schematic one in the picture by Erik, PD0EK at [2]: where, the 4 Graphic Symbols shown at the whole upper half of it: (1) [Sinusoidal Generator] (2) [a0] (3) [b0] (4) [couple of opposite arrows a1 and b1, just before the DUT] also consist such a 4-port [LeastVNA]. Sincerely, gin&pez@arg REFERENCES: [1] #92: Our General Picture of [TheLeastVNA]: 24 December 2019 - /g/nanovna-users/message/8612 [2] Will do: 24 December 2019 - /g/nanovna-users/message/8635 :#92' |
Re: New extended Tutorial Version 1.5. for the NanoVNA-H
Yep!! Thanks for that fix. I did have it there at one point becuase I tested it. But somewhere dropped it the version below. Good spot.
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On Dec 24, 2019, at 10:00, Jim Allyn - N7JA <jim@...> wrote:
On 12/24/19 8:19 AM, Rick Commo wrote: Here is the link wihtout the embedded spaces. Not quite. (Missing one %20.) Here it is: |
Re: Calibration Algorithm
#calibration
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 02:55 PM, hb9 iiu wrote:
And here the mentioned code..... ====================================================== Daniel, Thanks for sharing the script. Good example of why Python is popular for quick and dirty programming tasks. Has inspired me to try my hand at automating the task of generating transfer impedance conversion factors for RF current probes using the NanoVNA. Your script is good procedural code for doing so. I attribute part of the popularity of the nanoVNA's to their ease of programming, and ability to accept commands via a terminal program for prototyping. Hopefully other members will be similarly inspired to script and share their solutions to measurement tasks using the NanoVNA. - Herb |
Re: NanoVNA Presentation
#measurement
#nanovna-saver
#tutorials
There will be one but it takes time to translate.?
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On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 at 6:31 PM, Randall Steffens II via Groups.Io<pomology@...> wrote: Hi Luc, Thanks for the very interesting pdf presentation.? I only wish there were an English version! Randy NC8U On Dec 23, 2019, at 2:46 AM, Luc ON7DQ <on7dq@...> wrote: |
Re: NanoVNA Presentation
#measurement
#nanovna-saver
#tutorials
Hi Luc,
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Thanks for the very interesting pdf presentation. I only wish there were an English version! Randy NC8U On Dec 23, 2019, at 2:46 AM, Luc ON7DQ <on7dq@...> wrote: |
Calibration Algorithm
#calibration
Dear All,
I finally managed to get what I was looking for, but taking a somewhat lazy approach. I used the excellent open source scikit-rf Python library () developed for RF/Microwave engineering. To learn using it, I developed the attached small code to very quickly find the resonance frequency of a Magnetic Loop antenna (high Q factor/narrow bandwidth) tuned somewhere between 6 and 30 Mhz. For the calibration standards I considered ideal characteristics (zero ohms, infinite, 50 ohms) as I do not have a professional calibrated kit. Purists might be shocked with my coding style, but it has the advantage to be easily understood by beginners like me. You are of course welcome to modify and improve it, and if so, please share your work. The code was attached for those who would like to use it as a snippet for other applications, but due to a lack of time, I can unfortunately not make any commitments as regards support. Thank you for your understanding Enjoy! 73 de HB9IIU Daniel P.S The App was developed, and is running on a Raspberry Pi which I access with my Mac via VNC App in action: |
Re: First PCB pictures of the V2
On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 at 15:43, Daniel Marks <profdc9@...> wrote:
edy555, I must admit that I find it annoying that I released ATLC under the GPL then find someone else has released ATLC2 which is very similar in function. To be fair, the author does state ¡° This program was inspired by the *atlc* program written by Dr. David Kirkby, G8WRB¡±. However, I wish a very different name had been used by the author of the other program, as I receive questions about a program that I never wrote. I have never checked to see if the other program has a single line of code that I wrote. That would not bother me at all, as I released the code under the GPL. If you release code under the GPL, then you are inviting others to use it. But it is a bit annoying to have someone else write a program totally independently, and call it by a name that associates it with oneself. I think next time I release code under the GPL, I will write something in the source code *requesting* that others don¡¯t use a similar name if they write a similar program. Few of us are going to go to the expensive of registering a trademark in lots of countries, for items or code we give away free. Even if one did, it would be uneconomic to try to enforce it. Dave Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd, drkirkby@... Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100 Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892. Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom |
Re: First PCB pictures of the V2
Can you be more specific as to what copyright you are referring to? The hardware is our own design with nothing taken from your design, and the firmware uses your UI code in compliance with the GPLv3 (as stated in your source code). The name "NanoVNA" is a generic street name by now because there is no registered trademark and everyone is already selling under this name. I'll talk to my customer about possible name changes but as I said we are a contractor and it isn't under our/my control.
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Re: errors of "error" models
@Erik, PD0EK - 24 December 2019: /g/nanovna-users/message/8632 :
Dear Erik, Take into account, please, that we already * c o r r e c t l y * rephrased what you are quoting -obviously by mistake- with your above message, with our message: /g/nanovna-users/message/8630 , and allow us, please, to definitely point that we showed the way in which it is proved what you are saying, by our message: /g/nanovna-users/message/8618 . By the way, in addition of your Maxima code, of which we are still expecting its correct results, after we answered what you asked from us, with our message: /g/nanovna-users/message/8482 , would you also correct, please, your picture currently existing at your website at: , because its contents appear -at least to us- as to be self-contradictory ? Kind regards - gin&pez@arg |
Re: New extended Tutorial Version 1.5. for the NanoVNA-H
Here is the link wihtout the embedded spaces.
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NanoVNA-H.pdf On Dec 24, 2019, at 06:40, Kurt Poulsen <kurt@...> wrote:
Hi Piotr The link is as follows to my document and female calibration NanoVNA-H.pdf Please note that the female female adaptor you have been supplied with the NanoVNA might differ. The Hugen-H supplied from end of October has a female female adaptor with low loss and the earlier delivered has much higher loss and different delay if length differ. In the document the female female delay is 50.7ps and has a length end to end off 15mm. The previous delivered female female adaptor has the same length but as said higher loss. If you have another female female adaptor test it after S21 calibration with the previous supplied one, and if it show S21 dB trace above the reference line (showing gain) it has lower loss and use it. After my best memory we are dealing with 0.3dB difference and also obscure the calibration when used for female kit calibration. If it has a different length then adjust the delay with 4.796ps per mm length difference Kind regards Kurt -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: [email protected] <[email protected]> P? vegne af Piotr Wozniak Sendt: 24. december 2019 14:23 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [nanovna-users] New extended Tutorial Version 1.5. for the NanoVNA-H Hi Gunthard, In your file you refer to "Calibration data for the NanoVNA with the supplied SOLT - Calibration set". I spent hours trying to find this file, without success. Could you (or someone else) give me a link? I saw this file somewhere in the past, but unfortunately didn't save it. |
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