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Re: Brick my Nano
Dumb Question time ...
I see many comments about updating the firmware, but nothing on a procedure to do so ? Does it automatically update once the Nano senses a firmware update or is there more too it ? Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jim Allyn - N7JA <jim@...> Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 11:52 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Brick my Nano On 11/1/19 11:27 PM, hb9 iiu wrote: What are the chances that I brick my NanoVNA when trying to upload a new firmware? Very, very slim, I would say. There are probably several billion of those processors in use in various gadgets around the world, many of which get updated regularly. Some people update their Nanos on a near daily basis, and the developers might update several or even dozens of times in a day. I wouldn't worry about it. |
Re: Deal on ebay
The Tracking Number the Seller gave me was for a package
delivered to Colorado (I am in Arizona !!). Guess it's time to pulse e-Bay/PayPal. Tnx, Dick, W1KSZ ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Roy Appleton <twelveoclockhigh@...> Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 8:13 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Deal on ebay Just got my money back from the last bogus eBay listing at $19.95! Roy WA0YMH On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 9:20 AM hb9 iiu <hb9iiu@...> wrote: Just ordered one for fun at $15.99... ref 254398992632 |
Re: Nanovna data output
NanoVNA with antenna or component detailed Analysis:
By Jeff King Zl4AI First step is to saving S1p and S2p Files: Yes you can do a lot with SP1 Files. The following software allows directly reading: SWR - Standing Wave Ratio Rs - Resistance, series form Xs - Reactance, series form Zmag - Impedance magnitude Theta (deg) - Impedance angle Rho (mag) - Reflection coefficient magnitude RL (dB) - Return Loss, plotted as a negative number to show "reverse" scale (see note below) Phase (deg) - Reflection coefficient angle % Reflected Power Q - Quality factor, |Xs| / Rs Rp - Resistance, parallel form Xp - Reactance, parallel form Ls (?H) - Equivalent inductance for series Xs, both positive and negative Cs (pF) - Equivalent capacitance for series Xs, both positive and negative Lp (?H) - Equivalent inductance for parallel Xp, both positive and negative Cp (pF) - Equivalent capacitance for parallel Xp, both positive and negative Download: Zplots.xlsx from AC6LA and Rigexpert and Sim Smith From ZL4AI |
Re: Nanovna data output: Use the following other FREE software
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out of interest: Is there anything there that you think is missing in NanoVNA-Saver? I think I have it all covered, but I'm always eager to pick up what might be missing. -- Rune / 5Q5R On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 21:00, Jeff King <jking2603@...> wrote:
This file shows 3 software programs to get all the information you need |
Re: Nanovna data output: Use the following other FREE software
URLs with blanks will be problematic, but that PDF just has 3 more URLs:with antenna or component detailed Analysis.pdfThe link is not working Zplots.xlsx from AC6LA Rigexpert Sim Smith .. which are already here: /g/nanovna-users/wiki/External-links |
Re: Android NanoVNA WebApp - does not work on version 6x
I have a Samsung S7 Edge actually Android 8.
I did already many test for the nanoVNA with chrome without succes. I downloaded nanoVNA app it didn't work. Yesterday I used a normal OTG cable instead of the Samsung micro USB to USB A Stick delivered with the S7 and bingo i could connect and it worked. -- ON8DC Erik |
Re: Nanovna data output: Use the following other FREE software
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 09:00 PM, Jeff King wrote:
The link is not working |
Re: 50ohm cal load failed
Mel Farrer, K6KBE
Well, my HP was calibrated decades ago before I retired. and like you say
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for fun stuff it is good enough. I prefer to roll my own now. Close enough is good for me. Mel, K6KBE On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:57 PM hwalker <herbwalker2476@...> wrote:
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:46 AM, Mel Farrer, K6KBE wrote:ohms |
Re: Nanovna data output: Use the following other FREE software
This file shows 3 software programs to get all the information you need
with antenna or component detailed Analysis.pdf You can extract: SWR - Standing Wave Ratio Rs - Resistance, series form Xs - Reactance, series form Zmag - Impedance magnitude Theta (deg) - Impedance angle Rho (mag) - Reflection coefficient magnitude RL (dB) - Return Loss, plotted as a negative number to show "reverse" scale (see note below) Phase (deg) - Reflection coefficient angle % Reflected Power Q - Quality factor, |Xs| / Rs Rp - Resistance, parallel form Xp - Reactance, parallel form Ls (?H) - Equivalent inductance for series Xs, both positive and negative Cs (pF) - Equivalent capacitance for series Xs, both positive and negative Lp (?H) - Equivalent inductance for parallel Xp, both positive and negative Cp (pF) - Equivalent capacitance for parallel Xp, both positive and negative |
Re: 50ohm cal load failed
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:46 AM, Mel Farrer, K6KBE wrote:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Mel, I used a commercially made HP 50 ohm termination as my standard until David Taylor pointed out that even though it was manufactured by HP its s-parameter specs were lukewarm at best. My S11 measurements on known devices were slightly off, but that was because my NanoVNA OSL calibration was made with a load that was slightly off. Changing to a Mini-Circuits 50 ohm load with known s-parameter specs up to 18 GHz solved the problem. To my point, what you have observed may not reflect accuracy unless your HP termination is well characterized. Of course if you are just using the NanoVNA in a hobbyist environment where measurements within 5 - 10% are acceptable, then pretty much any 50 ohm load or termination assembled using good rf techniques should do. - Herb |
Re: Brick my Nano
On 11/1/19 11:27 PM, hb9 iiu wrote:
What are the chances that I brick my NanoVNA when trying to upload a new firmware? ???? Very, very slim, I would say.? There are probably several billion of those processors in use in various gadgets around the world, many of which get updated regularly.? Some people update their Nanos on a near daily basis, and the developers might update several or even dozens of times in a day.? I wouldn't worry about it. |
Re: Voltage sensing diode
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:46 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote:
I didn't know why you liked the BAV99 until I just looked them up. Nice!It's a $0.02 device! Puzzled because the BAV99 data sheet says VF=0.7V max @ 1mA, and we are wellI am using both diodes in the BAV99 package in series hence Vf ~1V with VBATEN set and ~0.5V with VBATEN unset. We're interested in Vf @ 1.5uA and 40uA. See attachment from a Nat Semi data sheet 0.25V and 0.425V respectively. Conveniently very close to my measurements ;) YMMV depending on the manufacturer. A lot of manufacturers don't specify Vf properly at <1mA. So I measured my sample device using a 0-20V bench supply, a 200kOhm 1% resistor and a calibrated meter. If I try the resistors, I'll just put in vbat_offset=1000mV, and live with theIt would be interesting to see how well it works. It has the advantage that it is more or less self calibrating with 1% resistors. No doubt the firmware could be modified to suit. |
Re: 50ohm cal load failed
Mel Farrer, K6KBE
I have a set of SS SMA PCB mount male connectors that I soldered 4 200 ohms
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0603 resistors around the clock, 12,3,6,9 and it measures very close to my HP SMA termination. Mel, K6KBE On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:38 AM hwalker <herbwalker2476@...> wrote:
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 09:56 AM, QRP RX wrote:performance. |
Re: Common Mode Current Impedance/Rejection
#test-jig
Mel Farrer, K6KBE
I have used several instruments and procedures to measure the isolation in
dB, and impedance in ohms (calculated of course) using K9YC method and S21 on VNAs. They all come terribly close together. Care must be made in how the test jigs are set up and calibrated. With my setup, I can easily see return loss of 50-70 dB open circuit. I have pictures of the various ones I have used if you are interested. Mel, K6KBE On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:32 AM Mel Farrer, K6KBE via Groups.Io <farrermesa= [email protected]> wrote: Ed, Check the file section for Balun/choke investigation. |
Re: 50ohm cal load failed
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 09:56 AM, QRP RX wrote:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As QRP replied, there is a difference between a 50 ohm termination and a good quality 50 ohm calibration load. That is why commercial calibration kits cost so much money. Using an un-characterized termination, your OSL calibration will look correct but you will be referencing all your measurements to however good the termination is. For example if you use a poor termination for performing your OSL calibration and then measure a good quality load. The load will look poor. Checking the termination with a multimeter only tells you what its DC characteristics are. You need to measure the termination against a known good quality load to verify its characteristics. It might prove worthwhile to construct your own 50 ohm load using the methods presented by other members of this group. Herb |
Re: Common Mode Current Impedance/Rejection
#test-jig
Impedance to Common Mode Current vs frequencySome Wiki Application Notes page entries may be helpful /g/nanovna-users/wiki/Application-Notes Common-mode chokes by G3TXQ ferrite bead measurements test jigs |
Re: Common Mode Current Impedance/Rejection
#test-jig
Mel Farrer, K6KBE
Ed, Check the file section for Balun/choke investigation.
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Mel, K6KBE On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:23 AM Edward McCann <Ag6cx1@...> wrote:
Who have used the device to measure Impedance to Common Mode Current vs |
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