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Re: Fixture PCB for VNA

 

Thanks - looks really nice.
For checking SMT active devices, the engineers I used to work with, used? fixtures with toggle-clamps to hold the DUT in place.

On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, 12:37:42 a.m. GMT-4, Daniel Marks <profdc9@...> wrote:

I made a fixture PCB for my VNA and I think it would be useful as well for the NanoVNA.? You can find it at:



It has the following features:

1.? Calibration standards for open, short, load, thru for SMA and BNC
2.? Four spots to solder on 0805 SMD components to create test loads for SMA, and an area left so that one can label the loads.
3.? ZIF socket for leaded component testing, both SMA and BNC
4.? A spot to place a spring clip into the board so that you can lay components flat against the board and clip them in to test them.

I do not think these calibration standards will necessarily work out to 900 MHz but should be useful for convenient testing at HF/VHF.

A picture of the test fixture is below.

Dan


Re: [nanovna-f] NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4

 

Hi,

Finally got it here:



73's
pf, f5bqp

Le 23/10/2019 ¨¤ 11:23, Pierre-Fran?ois (f5bqp_pfm) a ¨¦crit?:
Hello Rune,

Where is the link to get this new beauty, I dont see it.

73's
Pierre-Fran?ois, F5BQP


Le 23/10/2019 ¨¤ 09:56, Rune Broberg a ¨¦crit?:
Hello all,
I just released NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4. Here are the release?notes:

This release adds a number of new features, some bug fixes, and some internal reorganisation:

Adding markers:
You can now add or remove markers, allowing you as many as you can fit on your screen. In fact, the software does not stop there: You can even add markers which you can't fit on your screen!

New charts:
A number of new chart types have been added, allowing you to plot |Z|, |S11| and |S21| in linear format, S11 and S21 logarithmic on the same chart at the same time, and the raw S11 and S21 real/imaginary S-parameter values.

Calibration updates:
The calibration assistant has become more talkative, and should be better at telling you what has gone wrong when it won't apply a calibration. When applying a new calibration, or applying after changing to a different calibration standard set, the previous sweep is immediately updated to show the effect of the new values. This should be useful for finding the right values for calibration standard sets.

Bugfixes:
Line thickness and point size should now load correctly and apply to charts after you restart the software.
SWR marker colours should similarly also load correctly.
The software should now be able to run and attempt to check for updates, and not crash when you don't have an internet connection.

I hope these features and updates are useful to the community!


I look forward to hearing the feedback from you all!

And a little announcement: I have been really quite busy with this software for the past two or so months. I'm now going to take a little break and relax, and I therefore don't expect to make any new releases next week (*gasp*), and I might even be slow in responding to your emails.

You have all been very kind in writing to me both showing your appreciation, as well as pointing out bugs, misunderstandings, potential improvements and new ideas. I appreciate this greatly, and I hope you will continue to do so, even as I take a week or so to relax ;-)

--
Rune / 5Q5R

--
Pierre-Fran?ois, F5BQP
Locator: JN18AN


Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4

 

Enjoy your well deserved break. I will have a look at the software at the
weekend .

Paul G0VKT

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019, 08:56 Rune Broberg, <mihtjel@...> wrote:

Hello all,
I just released NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4. Here are the release notes:

This release adds a number of new features, some bug fixes, and some
internal reorganisation:

Adding markers:
You can now add or remove markers, allowing you as many as you can fit on
your screen. In fact, the software does not stop there: You can even add
markers which you can't fit on your screen!

New charts:
A number of new chart types have been added, allowing you to plot |Z|,
|S11| and |S21| in linear format, S11 and S21 logarithmic on the same chart
at the same time, and the raw S11 and S21 real/imaginary S-parameter
values.

Calibration updates:
The calibration assistant has become more talkative, and should be better
at telling you what has gone wrong when it won't apply a calibration. When
applying a new calibration, or applying after changing to a different
calibration standard set, the previous sweep is immediately updated to show
the effect of the new values. This should be useful for finding the right
values for calibration standard sets.

Bugfixes:
Line thickness and point size should now load correctly and apply to charts
after you restart the software.
SWR marker colours should similarly also load correctly.
The software should now be able to run and attempt to check for updates,
and not crash when you don't have an internet connection.

I hope these features and updates are useful to the community!


I look forward to hearing the feedback from you all!

And a little announcement: I have been really quite busy with this software
for the past two or so months. I'm now going to take a little break and
relax, and I therefore don't expect to make any new releases next week
(*gasp*), and I might even be slow in responding to your emails.

You have all been very kind in writing to me both showing your
appreciation, as well as pointing out bugs, misunderstandings, potential
improvements and new ideas. I appreciate this greatly, and I hope you will
continue to do so, even as I take a week or so to relax ;-)

--
Rune / 5Q5R




Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4

 

Who in the group has had a similar experience?
Who perhaps knows why?
What needs perhaps to be done differently?
In nanoVNA DISPLAY menu:
* select the TRACE being used for Smith,
e.g. turn off/on or turn off all others
* select SCALE and set SCALE/DIV 1 x1

With NanoVNA-H_AA_20191018.dfu,
SCALE - REFERENCE POSITION settings do not affect Smith format plot centering,
but perhaps it may on some other firmwares

Because of (IMO) poor menu arrangements,
it is too easy to accidentally change trace settings for a wrong trace.


Re: Possible Issue with ttrftech firmware (0.2.3-11) above 300 mhz

 

Pedja,
Try the NanoVNA-H_AA_20191018.dfu firmware @ .


Re: Fixture PCB for VNA

 

I looked, and I'm not sure how to add the hash-tag.
I do not think it is possible after posting the initial message for a topic;
hash-tag is any word in topic subject line prefixed by #
editing existing posts was disabled


Re: Possible Issue with ttrftech firmware (0.2.3-11) above 300 mhz

 

After returned to hugen_900_aa_aug-2-19.dfu firmware, calibration goes ok. but that is very old firmware, so old that it does not even have version number.

Can you point me where to download compiled version 0.1.1?


Re: [nanovna-f] NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4

 

On 23/10/2019 10:23, Pierre-Fran?ois (f5bqp_pfm) wrote:
Hello Rune,
Where is the link to get this new beauty, I dont see it.


Re: [nanovna-f] NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4

 

Hello Rune,

Where is the link to get this new beauty, I dont see it.

73's
Pierre-Fran?ois, F5BQP

Le 23/10/2019 ¨¤ 09:56, Rune Broberg a ¨¦crit?:
Hello all,
I just released NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4. Here are the release?notes:

This release adds a number of new features, some bug fixes, and some internal reorganisation:

Adding markers:
You can now add or remove markers, allowing you as many as you can fit on your screen. In fact, the software does not stop there: You can even add markers which you can't fit on your screen!

New charts:
A number of new chart types have been added, allowing you to plot |Z|, |S11| and |S21| in linear format, S11 and S21 logarithmic on the same chart at the same time, and the raw S11 and S21 real/imaginary S-parameter values.

Calibration updates:
The calibration assistant has become more talkative, and should be better at telling you what has gone wrong when it won't apply a calibration. When applying a new calibration, or applying after changing to a different calibration standard set, the previous sweep is immediately updated to show the effect of the new values. This should be useful for finding the right values for calibration standard sets.

Bugfixes:
Line thickness and point size should now load correctly and apply to charts after you restart the software.
SWR marker colours should similarly also load correctly.
The software should now be able to run and attempt to check for updates, and not crash when you don't have an internet connection.

I hope these features and updates are useful to the community!


I look forward to hearing the feedback from you all!

And a little announcement: I have been really quite busy with this software for the past two or so months. I'm now going to take a little break and relax, and I therefore don't expect to make any new releases next week (*gasp*), and I might even be slow in responding to your emails.

You have all been very kind in writing to me both showing your appreciation, as well as pointing out bugs, misunderstandings, potential improvements and new ideas. I appreciate this greatly, and I hope you will continue to do so, even as I take a week or so to relax ;-)

--
Rune / 5Q5R


Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4

 

Hi Rune,
Hi nanovna-users,


the go-ahead from Avast for 0.1.4 alpha just had arrived.

Attached you find a pic of my Hugen mounted on a PE board with N Extension, and two pics with the same configuration, but very different results.

Description:

using my Hugen NanoVNA mounted on a PE board with N extension (pls disregard the 70 cm dipole shown on that older pic),
after calibrating to this N-plane directly on the Hugen (just O-S-L for S11),
never switching off,
then after again calibrating to this same N-plane via saver 0.1.4 alpha (just O-S-L for S11),
never switching off,
I first compared calibration results on both Smith Charts, Hugen and saver, for O, S and L. Both were identical with respect to the 3 cal points on both Smith Charts,
never switching off,
then - for some test - I connected via N-male-to SMA-female adapter one of the two SMA-male-SMA-male cables that came with the Hugen,
never switching off,
in the range of 400MHz ... 500MHz, as entered in saver, which also showed up on the Hugen, too,

... I looked at the saver pic and an the Hugen photo shot (sorry for the poor quality without stand) and compared:

The two are quite different:

The saver screen shot shows - as I would expect - a circle close to the outer rim of the Smith Chart, even going a little bit outside |Gamma| =1 , which
is possible for lossy lines and not an indication of an impossible result. The attenuation makes it spiraled towards the Smith center, which is 50 Ohms.

The Hugen photo, however, shows a circle fully inside the traditional Smith Chart outer rim, centered around a point much less than 50 Ohms
having a much smaller diameter.

Imho your saver screenshot is as ok as can be expected, the Huigen pic, showing exactly the same thing, however is not.

How comes?

Probably I did something wrong, but I have no idea, what.

Theoretically there is, however, also a remote possibility of both using different calculations.
Checking both source codes for that is beyond my current possibilities.

Who in the group has had a similar experience?
Who perhaps knows why?
What needs perhaps to be done differently?

73, Hans
DJ7BA




-----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Rune Broberg
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Oktober 2019 09:57
An: [email protected]; [email protected]
Betreff: [nanovna-users] NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4

Hello all,
I just released NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4. Here are the release notes:

This release adds a number of new features, some bug fixes, and some internal reorganisation:

Adding markers:
You can now add or remove markers, allowing you as many as you can fit on your screen. In fact, the software does not stop there: You can even add markers which you can't fit on your screen!

New charts:
A number of new chart types have been added, allowing you to plot |Z|,
|S11| and |S21| in linear format, S11 and S21 logarithmic on the same
|S11| chart
at the same time, and the raw S11 and S21 real/imaginary S-parameter values.

Calibration updates:
The calibration assistant has become more talkative, and should be better at telling you what has gone wrong when it won't apply a calibration. When applying a new calibration, or applying after changing to a different calibration standard set, the previous sweep is immediately updated to show the effect of the new values. This should be useful for finding the right values for calibration standard sets.

Bugfixes:
Line thickness and point size should now load correctly and apply to charts after you restart the software.
SWR marker colours should similarly also load correctly.
The software should now be able to run and attempt to check for updates, and not crash when you don't have an internet connection.

I hope these features and updates are useful to the community!


I look forward to hearing the feedback from you all!

And a little announcement: I have been really quite busy with this software for the past two or so months. I'm now going to take a little break and relax, and I therefore don't expect to make any new releases next week (*gasp*), and I might even be slow in responding to your emails.

You have all been very kind in writing to me both showing your appreciation, as well as pointing out bugs, misunderstandings, potential improvements and new ideas. I appreciate this greatly, and I hope you will continue to do so, even as I take a week or so to relax ;-)

--
Rune / 5Q5R




--
Diese E-Mail wurde von Avast Antivirus-Software auf Viren gepr¨¹ft.


Re: How will you use your nanoVNA?

 

On 22.10.2019. 22:31, Jon Titus wrote:
Just curious. This group has a lot of activity centered on the nanoVNA. I have wondered how group members will use their nanoVNA, how often, and what for? Antenna testing, feedline testing, circuit design..?
Mostly for occasional antenna and filter measuring.


--
73,

YT9TP, Pedja


NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4

 

Hello all,
I just released NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.4. Here are the release notes:

This release adds a number of new features, some bug fixes, and some
internal reorganisation:

Adding markers:
You can now add or remove markers, allowing you as many as you can fit on
your screen. In fact, the software does not stop there: You can even add
markers which you can't fit on your screen!

New charts:
A number of new chart types have been added, allowing you to plot |Z|,
|S11| and |S21| in linear format, S11 and S21 logarithmic on the same chart
at the same time, and the raw S11 and S21 real/imaginary S-parameter values.

Calibration updates:
The calibration assistant has become more talkative, and should be better
at telling you what has gone wrong when it won't apply a calibration. When
applying a new calibration, or applying after changing to a different
calibration standard set, the previous sweep is immediately updated to show
the effect of the new values. This should be useful for finding the right
values for calibration standard sets.

Bugfixes:
Line thickness and point size should now load correctly and apply to charts
after you restart the software.
SWR marker colours should similarly also load correctly.
The software should now be able to run and attempt to check for updates,
and not crash when you don't have an internet connection.

I hope these features and updates are useful to the community!


I look forward to hearing the feedback from you all!

And a little announcement: I have been really quite busy with this software
for the past two or so months. I'm now going to take a little break and
relax, and I therefore don't expect to make any new releases next week
(*gasp*), and I might even be slow in responding to your emails.

You have all been very kind in writing to me both showing your
appreciation, as well as pointing out bugs, misunderstandings, potential
improvements and new ideas. I appreciate this greatly, and I hope you will
continue to do so, even as I take a week or so to relax ;-)

--
Rune / 5Q5R


Re: How will you use your nanoVNA?

 

Last night I used the nanoVNA to check a newly constructed dummy load that consists of 20 x 2W parallel resistors (film) in a tin.

Need to sort out a calibration for the revised connection (termination on dummy load is not sma) and also once reference plots obtained (using nanovna-saver) idea is to then fill tin with oil and re analyse to compare useful operating range.

Currently the swr is ok (less than 1:1.5) up to about 200 Mhz or so then climbs to about 4 at 430 Mhz so ok for 2M but not 70 cm.

LOTS to learn and still debating which firmware will be best for my needs without limiting options...

Have made comparison using YouKits FG 01 analyser (see a post made week or so ago) of broad band aerial and there are many projects I have in mind that the nanovna will be used e.g. hand held sat aerial, filter(s) as well as 'experimenting'!

Fingers crossed than Ohan Smit continues his excellent posting on his blog re a nanonvna-saver 'cook book'.... (no pressure Ohan, honestly <smile>).

Thank you to all contributors to this forum, your efforts are sincerely appreciated.

73 Nigel ZS6RN ex G8DEV


Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.3

 

Hi Bryan,
Good to hear that 0.3.0m works better - I tried it out as well, and it
seems to work fine! :-)

What does that low-pass TDR function entail?

--
Rune / 5Q5R

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 02:43, bryburns via Groups.Io <bryburns=
[email protected]> wrote:

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 12:30 PM, Rune Broberg wrote:


Hi Bryan,
I know it's the easy way out to claim that it's the other guy's fault,
but
I really don't treat 0.3.0 any differently than I did 0.2.3. The fact
that
it's at a specific frequency might point towards it being related to your
calibration at that particular frequency. I assume, though, that you have
tried re-calibrating your device, and that it remained in place at the
same
frequency?
Rune,

Yes, I tried recalibrating but I still had an intermittent problem on the
first sample of some segments.

I switched to another version of firmware, NanoVNA-0.3.0m from QRP RX that
was included in the post at /g/nanovna-users/message/5445
and I did a full recalibration after installing the new firmware. It is my
observation that every other version of firmware I have tried has produced
something like a few bad samples. I don't know what that means. The new
firmware from QRP RX cured all of the problems with reference to
intermittent issues in the first sample of some segments. I really don't
know what might be different. Clearly this means that the issue I was
observing with intermittent bad values is not anything in nanoVNA-Saver. I
don't observe any bad samples even though I have tried conditions that
repeatedly caused them before switching firmware.

For now, I am using this version from QRP RX and all is well.

I also observed that you made some changes to the TDR function. It looks
like it is working as it should. Good job!

Now, all I want is the low-pass TDR function that is in the nanoVNA
firmware to be in nanoVNA-Saver so that I can test longer cables at high
resolution. Maybe someday?

--
Bryan, WA5VAH




Re: Voltage sensing diode

 

I changed D2 to a Schottky Diode. With a fully charged battery, the 3rd battery bar turns on and off. (unstable)
Since I have a Hugen's NanoVNA-H, PCB V3.2, I chose to stick on with firmware NanoVNA-H_20191018.dfu. (latest release)

Fully charged battery voltage reads 4.1V and after D2 (diode voltage drop) I read 3.91V. That's about 0.2V drop as expected.
Also I have not fully understood all hardware differences between Edy555's design and Hugen's design so not sure if Edy555's firmware shall work correctly on my board.

@ QRP RX - thanks for your offer to modify firmware, but that will not allow me to change/update firmware's as newer versions release. Is there any simpler way out?

BR - Nan


Re: Fixture PCB for VNA

 

I looked, and I'm not sure how to add the hash-tag.

I put the BNC in the middle and made the SMA on the outside because BNC
isn't going to be as accurate, and so I figured it was ok to use vertical
mount for BNC, while the SMA side-mount connectors can go on the edge of
the board. I figured that something useful should go in the center of the
board, so I added BNC calibration standards as well.


On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 1:04 AM Starsekr via Groups.Io <Starsekr=
[email protected]> wrote:

Nice board.

Daniel, can you go back to the subject line of your post and add the
hashtag #test-jig?
I think only originators of topics have access to do that.

It would be interesting to compare the vertical mounted SMA against the
side mounted SMA.
I've read that the 90 turn in the signal causes measurement errors, but
nothing about when
this is a problem.




Re: Fixture PCB for VNA

 

Nice board.

Daniel, can you go back to the subject line of your post and add the hashtag #test-jig?
I think only originators of topics have access to do that.

It would be interesting to compare the vertical mounted SMA against the side mounted SMA.
I've read that the 90 turn in the signal causes measurement errors, but nothing about when
this is a problem.


Re: Voltage sensing diode

 

I have a white Gecko nanoVNA.
I found that the D2 pad going to Pin 1 of the STM32 has a short to GND.
So, it made no sense to solder the diode in place.

If someone has the same situation and fixed it, please let me know.
73, Rudi DL5FA


Fixture PCB for VNA

 

I made a fixture PCB for my VNA and I think it would be useful as well for the NanoVNA. You can find it at:



It has the following features:

1. Calibration standards for open, short, load, thru for SMA and BNC
2. Four spots to solder on 0805 SMD components to create test loads for SMA, and an area left so that one can label the loads.
3. ZIF socket for leaded component testing, both SMA and BNC
4. A spot to place a spring clip into the board so that you can lay components flat against the board and clip them in to test them.

I do not think these calibration standards will necessarily work out to 900 MHz but should be useful for convenient testing at HF/VHF.

A picture of the test fixture is below.

Dan


Re: LOGMAG

 

there is mistyping :)

corrected:

linear magnitude S11 = sqrt(re*re + im*im)

logmag magnitude S11 = 20 * log10( sqrt(re*re + im*im) )