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Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.0.12
Hi DMR,
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I found the bug you are referring to - I'll get it fixed in the next version, and obviously pushed to GitHub as soon as it's fixed :-) Thanks! -- Rune / 5Q5R On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 16:12, DMR <bryonikater@...> wrote:
Scaling does not work. The schedule remains the same. |
Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.0.12
Hi Nick,
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make sure you're running 0.0.12 - the version number should be in the title bar. The "Calibration assistant" button is what you're after: [image: image.png] -- Rune / 5Q5R On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 16:36, Nick <g3vnc@...> wrote:
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Re: How to measure source impedance?
And of course, the real answer to your question is the following: If you want a reliable radio equipment, buy reputable a ham radio =radio amateur products or even professional radio products. They keep their promises, no need to worry or guess anything. They'll cost something but quality costs.
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Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.0.12
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How do I start this wizard? Can't see it in the Calibration window. Using Mint Linux 19.2 x64, Python 3.7.3. 73 Nick G3VNC On 27/09/2019 12:04, Rune Broberg wrote:
Thirdly, the calibration procedure has received a new "calibration |
Re: errors of "error" models
Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 15:04, <reuterr@...> wrote:
Hello David, Rudi, It is *not* anyone¡¯s duty to convert their Fortran to Python! Nor is it their duty to show examples of show input or output, nor is it it their duty to write the information in a coherent way. I do however think writing the information in a coherent manner and showing some examples of input and output would be *very* useful. Without the information being written in a coherent way, it is of very little value. Converting Fortran to Python seems to be taking things too far though. Porting code has the possibility of introducing bugs. Anyone technically competent enough to understand the content should be able to use a Fortran compiler. If not, they should be able to find someone who can compile a Fortran program. Dave -- Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd, drkirkby@... Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100 Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892. Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom |
Re: nanovna Battery Specifications
BTW..... this version is the so-called "better" one with shielding. It is better construction than my "white salamander worst" unit or my black "worse" one. The noise floor might be slightly lower on this one but I find no practical measurement differences among the three. Given a choice I would probably choose this one but I would also be perfectly happy with either of the other two.
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Re: errors of "error" models
18 : @Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd :
/g/nanovna-users/message/3181 Hello, Thank you very much for your interest in our work ! We much appreciate that; indeed. Therefore, allow us, please, to inform you that, on the one hand English is -obviously- not our native language, and, on the other hand, we are deeply regret since our limited presentation abilities still create so much confusion to you, even after you already read all of our references on this subject, of course, because these are : "the document" "including adequate references, much like a scientific paper" you ask for. However, and in addition to these, we already wrote, but obviously you didn't notice it too, at: 14 : /g/nanovna-users/message/3111 " this is the current state of published research on this subject, excluding some papers under preparation in order to be published in our small journal: " Nevertheless, it is needless to say that we don't agree at all with your, obviously subjective, comment that "The whole issue is far from simple" - which, by the way, it appears as it is orchestrally emanated from some honorable specialists of this forum - as it unreasonably discourages any Radio Amateur, who is absolute beginner or newcomer to the subject to even give it a chance to attempt to follow it ! And, as your scientific titles imply, it is certain that you know very well that this is the worst anti-scientific attempt to patronize the unsuspecting innocent victim who comes here wanting to learn. Anyway, since we always try to be good listeners, we shall also attempt to follow your valuable subjective suggestions on this very subject and to learn our lessons : Thank you once more ! Now, regarding the objective points you had the kindness to also set, which, we assume, you are definitely referenced to: [17] : From A Common User's Point Of View /g/nanovna-users/message/2521 allow us, please, to also gladly answer them, as follows: (1) You are absolutely right about the "incomplete definitions of the equations". This was a deliberate omission, in order to check how many of the honorable members of this forum - who desperately declare their thirsty for the Knowledge, that is they also passionately seek it in way which exactly coincides with that permanent of ours - are indeed interested for it. Therefore, we also thank you very much, since you are giving us the happiness to notice that: the capital letters are representatives of the "true value" - [ well, if you don't have a feeling of what this exactly [ means, then allow us, please, to inform you that [ you are not alone, but just one of us, and that all [ together we are, with many others who have the [ scientific honesty to admit that they also don't know [ what that really means, because, in our humble [ opinion, this is a notion lying on the boundaries [ between the philosophy and the science, that is it [ is a primitive notion, an undefined term, and all that [ in addition to the fact that there are many others, [ who do not accept that exists such a "true value" - A, B. C of three "known" loads, and Gama is of the "unknown" one, while the small letters are the representatives of the corresponding (VNA or nanoVNA) "raw" measurements, with the rest of the multi-letters to stand for either the well-known indexed S-parameters or for intermediate variables - just for the corresponding indexed Numerators to be used in the calculations and|or the computations - which facilitate, as we hope, not only the comprehension but also the programming, in the way we are mentioning in [17], that is of complex variables as they are all the aforementioned ones. (2) Regarding your interesting contributing notes about the phase matter, allow us, please to reserve ourselves from commenting it right now. Sincerely, yin&pez@arg 18 |
Re: How to measure source impedance?
Output impedance of a transmitter is not simple thing. Transmitter outputs are not matched to the output transistor or fet collector impedance. That impedance is usually very high. Usually matching circuits are made so that efficiency is best, that is the output device does not get too hot. So if you really measure output impedance of a transmitter, you get strange results. Besides, you may burn your transmitter or measuring device.
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Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.0.12
Hi Rune,
I tested your new guided calibration routine as well and all works fine with Win10 pro. Very well done! Thank you very much! I keep getting some warnings, and I have no idea if the performance of the NanoVNA will suffer from those!? This is not related to the current version, I had that "feature" with all versions. The messages were generated during calibration. Kind regards Norbert, DG1KPN |
Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.0.12
Great stuff Rune!
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On the R+jX chart the frequency axis scaling works FB but I cannot make the scaling of the data axes work. 73 Nick G3VNC On 27/09/2019 12:04, Rune Broberg wrote:
First of all, there's now the option of scaling the plots: right click them |
Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.0.12
Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 12:04, Rune Broberg <mihtjel@...> wrote:
I just released 0.0.12: I¡¯m not using my NanoVNA yet, as I have not got around to box it up properly. But I will give your software a try on Solaris later. I have both SPARC and x86. I don¡¯t expect anyone else has tried that. My normal computer is a quad core Xeon machine with OpenSolaris on it. I also have a SPARC with Solaris 10, but I expect it would require too much messing around to install all the software needed - git, python etc. Dave. --Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd, drkirkby@... Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100 Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892. Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom |
Re: errors of "error" models
Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 at 12:33, yza <yzaVNA@...> wrote:
17 : From A Common User's Point Of View Maybe if you wrote a document on this, including adequate references, much like a scientific paper, we could follow you. But you have made endless posts, at least one of which has incomplete definitions of the equations, it is almost impossible for anyone to follow you. I am sure what you have is interesting, and some will be able to follow you - perhaps not myself as my mathematics is not very good. But the way the information is presented makes it impossible to follow. One of things that is important is the phase difference between the offset male and offset short standards. This will obviously be 180 degrees at low frequency, but will depart from this as frequency is increased. I have seen calibration kits assembled from inappropriate parts where the phases difference drops to zero at one frequency. It¡¯s obviously impossible to calibrate then. But if one standard has a phase able of 0 degrees, and the other 10 degrees, the calibration will be poor. The whole issue is far from simple, but the way you are presenting the information makes it difficult for anybody to follow you. G8WRB -- Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd, drkirkby@... Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100 Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892. Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom |
Re: nanovna Battery Specifications
Yes ,indeed a 5V USB powerpack ,readily available ,even from supermarkets , will do fine.
For those needing a Li-Ion cell (nominally 3.7V) , I get these from discarded Laptop battery packs . These packs are discarded because usually only 1 of the 6 cells is no longer OK. I take these packs to bits and charge each cell individually with an appropriate charger (usually good for charging 4 cells at the time) I then fit cells in 18650 cell holders available from Banggood and other on-line retailers. There are 2 types of cell holders , for 1 cell and 4 cells. WIth the cell holders I make multiple cell battery packs to feed my Yaesu FT-817 , QRP transceiver For this transceiver I use 4 multiple cell units in series ,ensuring that the cells will be re-charged when the radio input voltage has dropped to 4*2.8V=11.2V To ensure a long life a Li-Ion cell should not be discharged below 2.8 V The above just for info. After all I am just a radio AMATEUR. Frank , EI7KS |
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